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2016 Presidential Elections in the US



AdrianK9
25 Apr 2016  #1441

Same with the cure for Hep C.

Absolutely. If you have the money you can buy drugs that boast 95%+ cure rates. If you don't, you'll get cirrhosis, liver cancer, and die. The only reason why the pharma companies even came out with these cures is because of all the wealthy people who have hep c and are willing to shell out $60k-$100k for a treatment. 5 years ago, the only treatment was the same as for HIV - interferon which was only successful about 50% of the time with terrible side effects during the 6 month treatment. Now we have 3 different medicines all boasting over 95% with some even getting to the 97%-99% effectiveness and 3-4 month treatments with minor side effects.

The difference with Trump is that he is not the typical corporate type. In his book, Art of the Deal, he specifically states that he never wanted to be like a corporate CEO but rather an entrepreneur - hence why he chose Wharton instead of Harvard. Trump made good property investments and pounced on good deals. He is for fair trade - not monopoly and not for government interference in business - like the pharma allied FDA for one. Trump benefitted off the government's ineptitude to manage properties - he did not use the government to create a monopoly and prohibit competition.

Let's not forget that now people cannot sue doctors or pharma companies for adverse effects of vaccines on their children. Even some British doctors suggested a strong link between measles and rubella vaccines and autism. One thing is certain, when the vaccination schedule changed in 1989 the rates of developmental diseases and disorders in children skyrocketed. A child born on his 1st day receives a dose of mercury suitable for a 250 lb male in vaccines.

TheOther
25 Apr 2016  #1442

A child born on his 1st day receives a dose of mercury suitable for a 250 lb male in vaccines.

The number of vaccines containing Thimerosal is actually very low nowadays, but unfortunately the saisonal flu shots mess things up big time.

fda.gov/BiologicsBloodVaccines/SafetyAvailability/VaccineSafety/UCM096228#t1

AdrianK9
25 Apr 2016  #1443

The FDA is hardly an independent source - they are in collusion with big pharma and their lobbyists are constantly trying to change guidelines, prevent vaccine manufacturers from being sued, prevent homeopathic medicines, and argue that nutrition has no effect on health (Codex Alimentiarus)

Thimerosal

The Eli Lilly MSDS for Thimerosal acknowledges that exposure to Thimerosal in utero and in children can cause "mild to severe mental retardation and mild to severe gross motor impairment. Also, it's not only the flu vaccine - other vaccines contain it too like for hep B and DPT.

Also, it wasn't until 1999 that the American Association of Pediatrics called for thimerosal to be removed from vaccines. Nonetheless, in 2002 the CDC recommended that pregnant women and young children still get annual flu shots. On the other hand, the FDA warms pregnant women to watch their consumption of fish - especially canned tuna, due to mercury content. Nonetheless, there is no such warning against vaccines that contain mercury. Mercury is a cancer causing nuerotoxin, yet the government, big pharma, and even doctors (who receive money from big pharma) encourage us to inject this crap directly into our bloodstream.

Through the Freedom of Information Act, documents were revealed that the CDC did have knowledge that thimerosal in vaccines is linked to autism, sleep problems, and speech disorders. Here is the congressional hearing on this - healthimpactnews.com/2012/video-highlights-from-first-congressional-hearing-on-autism-in-10-years

I use to work for a medical waste company and although I mostly worked in the office managing contracts I did nonetheless have to go to the facilities where the waste was treated every once in a while - usually by autoclave (red bag waste - sharps, needles, gauze, anything with blood on it) or incineration (body parts, medicine, etc.). Vaccines had to be treated differently than drugs like warfarin, chemo drugs, or even morphine (which had to be put into small black boxes and a cop would watch it be incinerated) - a chemist had to supervise pickup, transfer, and disposal and they were usually put in huge metal drums but I don't know what actually ended up happening with those drums. I know we didn't burn them so I'm guessing they were just buried in a landfill. It got to the point where treating vaccines with thimerosal got to be so expensive and time consuming that we simply stopped accepting mercury waste.

AdrianK9
25 Apr 2016  #1444

One of my favorite talking heads on the subject of Trump and his nomination:

youtube.com/watch?v=aH8Q40s9eXc

TheOther
25 Apr 2016  #1445

The FDA is hardly an independent source

I know, but in this case I believe the list can be trusted because tracing mercury is easy. Imagine the number of law suits that would rain down on big pharma and the FDA should it turn out that they lied about the chemical composition of their vaccines.

AdrianK9
25 Apr 2016  #1446

Imagine the number of law suits that would rain down on big pharma and the FDA should it turn out that they lied about the chemical composition of their vaccines.

Um... this did happen - and you can't sue a pharma manufacturer for issues resulting of vaccines. Perhaps lying about ingredients yes, but even the whole situation whether mercury is still used in vaccines or not is dubious.

Supreme Court vaccine ruling: parents can't sue drug makers:
cbsnews.com/news/supreme-court-vaccine-ruling-parents-cant-sue-drug-makers-for-kids-health-problems

The FDA/CDC perhaps doesn't lie about the ingredients, but has lied about safety, uses, etc. Couple cases I think think of are with Takeda in 2012 covering up the bladder cancer and heart failure effects of their diabetes drug, Abbott paying $1.5 billion for off use label for Depakote, Pfizer lying about the mild effects of Celebrex (which in a released email an exec boasted that people bought their story hook, line, and sinker), GSK paying a $3 bil fine because of Paxil (said it was safe for teens - which clearly wasn't the case a later study found), Wellbutrin (a drug my dad was RX'd to help him quit smoking), and some other med, Merck lying about the mumps portion of the MMR vaccine which later whisteblows exposed a giant fraud showing cover-ups lying about efficacy.

Video about CDC's alleged knowledge of MMR's link to autism
youtube.com/watch?v=y-Xpl4uYRBc

There's been a lot of outbreaks of mumps from 2006 to the present day amongst populations that received the MMR vaccine. I mean how can thousands of people catch mumps if these individuals - like college students in Idaho, Iowa, Indiana, Illinois - were vaccinated as children and the vaccine is supposedly effective? No, drug manufacturers perhaps may not lie about ingredients but they have been caught lying about vaccine efficacy, side effects, uses, etc. I mean even recently there was a big scandal about meningitis tainted pharmaceuticals from India that killed some 60 people.

Julie Gerberding, the head of the CDC, went on CNN's House Call with Dr. Sanjay Gupta to discuss the Hannah Poling case and admitted that vaccines trigger autism in a subset of the population with mitochondrial disorders.
youtube.com/watch?v=Dh-nkD5LSIg&feature=youtu.be

The CDC/FDA is just as linked with big pharma as the treasury and Fed is with goldman sachs and to a lesser extent JP Morgan. For one, the government purchases some $4 billion a year worth of vaccines to be redistributed.

This is something that I care about as someone close to me has been rendered sterile and depressed thanks to Yaz. She is now part of a class action lawsuit but it will never change the fact that now she can't have children thanks to a birth control that big pharma touted as safe and effective.

johnny reb
25 Apr 2016  #1447

Clinton has a 10%+ lead over Trump at the moment.

I just heard on CNN that it was only 3% with a 2.5% margin of error.
You living in a State known for it's fruits and nuts might explain the exaggeration.

delphiandomine
25 Apr 2016  #1448

I just heard on CNN that it was only 3% with a 2.5% margin of error.

It's all here : realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/2016_presidential_race.html

The real story is not Trump being behind Clinton, but rather that Cruz is not completely out of it vs Clinton - and even more - the fact that Kasich beats Clinton by a significant margin in every single poll. It gets even stranger when you see that Sanders beats every single Republican challenger.

Trump/Kasich seems to be the obvious answer, but only if the GOP can finally put Cruz out of his misery before the convention.

AdrianK9
25 Apr 2016  #1449

Sanders beats every single Republican challenger

I don't understand how Sanders seems to be winning in a bunch of states yet he's somehow behind Hillary? I don't know this whole electoral system in the US is a complete mess...

I don't see how this guy is going to make education free for everyone - I'm sorry but some people just aren't cut out for college...

delphiandomine
25 Apr 2016  #1450

I don't understand how Sanders seems to be winning in a bunch of states yet he's somehow behind Hillary? I don't know this whole electoral system in the US is a complete mess...

Sanders is significantly behind in the popular vote though - Clinton is ahead by over 2.5 million votes so far. The results so far actually seem to pretty much make sense - Clinton has a lead in the delegate count that's pretty much equal to her lead in the popular vote.

Lyzko
25 Apr 2016  #1451

Again, Sanders simply comes across as "too Jewish" throughout a broad swath of the American country! Often times, even I imagine his intonation could remind me of a bit of borscht belt shtick a la Jackie MasonLOL

This is not to say however, that he doesn't have plenty of seriously, indeed, passionately, thought-out ideas. They're merely too pie-in-the-sky for my tastes:-)

TheOther
26 Apr 2016  #1452

Sanders simply comes across as "too Jewish"

He doesn't come across as too Jewish IMO, but rather as a bitter old geezer with some crazy ideas that would probably work in Europe, but never ever in the US. Here, he's simply "the communist".

Lyzko
26 Apr 2016  #1453

Dare I remind you that in recent history the terms "Jew" and "Communist" were frequently seen as one and the same?
Lest we forget during WWII, as the late historian Hillgruber pointed out in his famous work, the hatred of ordinary Germans who subscribed to Nazism for Jews was as deep as their contempt for Communists, seen as the world enemy! Had the Jews not been correctly or incorrectly associated with this perceived evil as they were, Hillgruber doesn't believe that the Holocaust would have played out as it had:-)

Something to think about.

TheOther
26 Apr 2016  #1454

in recent history the terms "Jew" and "Communist" were frequently seen as one and the same?

Long time ago. Most Americans don't even know the difference between communism, socialism and social democracy these days, so why would they associate the Jewish faith with any of these?

AdrianK9
26 Apr 2016  #1455

Well Bolshevism was a Jewish invention... I mean during Lenin and Trostky's time all the top people in the Communist regime were all Jews I mean even Churchill was very vocal on this topic.

I've driven past demonstrations in Chicago and it boggles the mind seeing these university aged people wearing sickle and hammer t shirts thinking they're so freakin cool and hip but yet I guarantee they'd have a huge issue with giving away their, I mean daddy's, new BMW.

jon357
26 Apr 2016  #1456

Long time ago. Most Americans don't even know the difference between communism, socialism and social democracy these days, so why would they associate the Jewish faith with any of these?

Indeed, no special connection, except:
Had the Jews not been correctly or incorrectly associated with this perceived evil as they were,

Basically an urban, educated community.

Very few of whom are likely to support the redneck posterboy Trump...

AdrianK9
26 Apr 2016  #1457

Most Americans don't even know the difference between communism, socialism and social democracy these days, so why would they associate the Jewish faith with any of these?

They don't - especially not the younger generations and the less educated. The older educated type who perhaps lived during WW2 - then yes, they would've - especially the Brits and Germans.

Very few of whom are likely to support the redneck posterboy Trump...

Yes, because they can't buy him and control him. Plus, the major Zionist Jewish players already support Hillary - her major donation list reads like Bar Mitzvah invitation... yet she claims she so anti-big business and anti-Wall Street.. what a joke

opensecrets.org/politicians/contrib.php?cid=N00000019&cycle=Career
opensecrets.org/pres16/contrib.php?id=N00000019

Look at all the Jew bankers and Jew media figures in this list - Soros, Goldman Sachs, Euclidean Capital, Lehman, FOX even, Time Warner, Citigroup, JP Morgan, Morgan Stanley - all run by Jews.

Lyzko
26 Apr 2016  #1458

Hate to disappoint you, Adrian and company, but neither Engels nor Lenin nor Kautsky (founder of the Gotha Program), nor even Wilhelm Liebknecht, along with other stalwarts (except of course for Marx) were Jewish:-)

AdrianK9
26 Apr 2016  #1459

Lenin

What are you talking about yes he was - granted only a portion but he definitely had Jewish blood from his mother's side - which according to Jewish law is how one gains their Jewish identity.

Trotsky, Kamenev, Uritsky , Zinoviev, Sverdlov, and Lenin were all Jews.

Also, after the revolution Kautsky later became a huge critic of Bolshevism and called it a conspiracy that was even worse than capitalism.

TheOther
26 Apr 2016  #1460

Wilhelm Liebknecht

You mean Karl Liebknecht.

johnny reb
26 Apr 2016  #1461

Come on guys, back on threat here.
Very few of whom are likely to support the redneck posterboy Trump...

Why do you suppose that is jon ? Let me give you my take of it.
I have repeatedly posted that they will kill Trump before they will let him become president.
"They have to shut Trump up as people are getting very nervous like Obama, Valerie Jarrett, Eric Holder, Clinton and Jon Corzine, to name just a few.
It's all about the connections between big government, big business, and big media.
They all benefit by the billions of dollars from this partnership, and it's in all of their interests to protect one another.
For once the powerful socialist and the corrupt capitalists are scared.
He could actually win and upset their nice cozy apple cart.
They are all owned by lobbyists, unions, lawyers, gigantic environmental organizations, and multinational corporations like Big Pharmacy or Big Oil.
Or they are owned lock, stock, and barrel by foreigners like George Soros owns Obama or foreign governments own Hillary and their Clinton Foundation donations.
Billionaire Donald Trump doesn't need anyone's help.
That makes Trump a huge threat to those people.
Don't you ever wonder why the GOP has never tried to impeach Obama ?
Don't you wonder why John Boehner and Mitch McConnell talk a big game but never actually try to stop Obama ?
Don't you wonder why Congress holds the purse strings yet has never tried to defund Obamacare or Obama's clearly illegal executive action on amnesty for illegal aliens ?

I'm certain Trump will question what happened to the almost billion dollars given in a rigged no-bid contract to college friends of Michelle Obama at foreign companies to build the defective Obamacare website.
(By the way, that tab is now up to $5 billion.)
Trump will ask if Obamacare's design department can be charged with fraud for selling it by lying.
Trump will prosecute Clinton and Obama for fraud committed to cover up Benghazi before the election.
How about the fraud committed by employees of the Labor Department when they made up dramatic job numbers in the last jobs report before the 2012 election ? You forget about that ?
Obama, the multinational corporations and the media need to stop Trump.
Trump could wake a sleeping giant.
Obama has committed many crimes.
No one else but Trump would dare to prosecute and Trump would not hesitate.
Holder and Jarrett could wind up in prison.
Corzine could wind up in prison for losing $1.5 billion of customer money.
Clinton could wind up in jail for deleting 32,000 emails or for accepting bribes from foreign governments while Secretary of State or for misplacing $6 billion as the head of the State Department or for lying about Benghazi.
The entire upper level management of the IRS could wind up in prison.
Obamacare will be defunded and dismantled.
Obama himself could wind up ruined with no legacy and in prison.
Trump will go after everyone involved and prosecute every damn one of the crooks.
That's why the dogs of hell have been unleashed on Donald Trump.

delphiandomine
26 Apr 2016  #1462

Trump will go after everyone involved and prosecute every damn one of the crooks.

Except he wouldn't. The real power holders would take Trump to one side and explain quietly that his choice is either to accept the status quo or to face being impeached. Trump would go along with it, and that would be that.

The failure of Obama to shut Guantanamo Bay tells you where the real power lies.

AdrianK9
26 Apr 2016  #1463

Don't you ever wonder why the GOP has never tried to impeach Obama ?

Even FOX has donated millions to Hillary. After seeing what's been happening in this election I no longer have any faith in the Republican party.

Don't forget Rabbi Dov Zakheim who lost $2 TRILLION of pentagon money and still has not been accounting for.

Except he wouldn't.

I'd have to agree with this. Trump is powerful and can do a lot if he wins - but ultimately even if the Dems lose the presidency, they still will hold tons of power through finance, congress, senate, etc.

One thing I'd love to see more than anything is an audit, and preferably total dismantlement, of the Federal Reserve - arguably the largest boon on American economy for over 100 years.

johnny reb
26 Apr 2016  #1464

The failure of Obama to shut Guantanamo Bay tells you where the real power lies.

Guitmo is tied up with so many legal technicalities that I can understand that.
I do see your point however.
or to face being impeached. Trump would go along with it,

No he wouldn't, he would sue them and declare a revolution. lol

AdrianK9
26 Apr 2016  #1465

No he wouldn't, he would sue them and declare a revolution. lol

This is a movement that's for sure... a revolution of pi$$ed off white Christians.. and even a few minorities who are sick of the establishment have gotten on the Trump train too.

TheOther
26 Apr 2016  #1466

This is a movement that's for sure... a revolution of pi$$ed off white Christians

The majority of Americans have an unfavorable view of both Trump (67%) and Clinton (52%). Hardly a revolution, but a sign of the divide that is tearing this country slowly apart.

AdrianK9
26 Apr 2016  #1467

Well, when you have 100 million people out of the labor force, 45%-47% not paying any federal income tax, and the middle class being totally decimated - what typically was the middle class in the US - white, Christian, and working - are getting fed up with losing work, being paid subpar wages, and having the little money they have being redistributed through taxation. Let's not forget the whole reason why the US revolted against the British is because of their involvement in the daily life of the colonies - yet what the British did pales in comparison to what the US is doing to its own citizens now. Psh, taxation without representation? And what exactly do we have now? We just have the Sugar Act, Molasses Act, and others replaced by taxation of just about every single service and product being taxed. Literally whether you buy a gallon of gas, get a haircut, or buy a pack of gum you pay a tax regardless. Descendants even have a hard time holding onto their parents' and grandparents' businesses and homes thanks to the death tax, something that doesn't exist in countries like Russia and China, and have to sell them off cheaply if they can't afford the tax. I mean this is literally double if not triple taxation.. it's gotten just flat out ridiculous and quite frankly US taxpayers are sick and tired of it - that is why there is a big divide. People that are hard working, tax paying, God fearing individuals are sick and tired of being taken advantage of.

johnny reb
27 Apr 2016  #1468

As of tonight, President Trump only needs 310 more delegates to win the nominee.

AdrianK9
27 Apr 2016  #1469

Still a long way to go for Trump to actually win the presidency. The Zionists and their establishment puppets are going to do everything to steal the election from Trump. I mean for Christ sakes even conservative outlets like Fox may be criticizing hillary yet they don't have qualms about giving her millions. I forsee that the US citizens may see the largest assault on the Constitution and bill.of rights. Atleast we only have a few months left of a Muslim socialist, let's see how many more criminals he'll release and executive actions he'll sign further limiting civil rights and liberties. If Hillary wins it's going to be nothing more than a 3rd term of Obama... on steroids.

johnny reb
27 Apr 2016  #1470

Last night Trump said that the only card Crooked Hillary had to play was the women's vote.....and that was a very weak one.
The Democrats have 20% more voters voting in the primary then they did in 2012.
The Republican's have 50% more which could push Trump over the top for our new President.


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