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2016 Presidential Elections in the US



AdrianK9
3 May 2016  #1561

Not only G-d, guns, and guts build a nation, but compassion as well.

You're right. Where is Hillary's compassion for hard working, tax paying, hetero Christians? Where is her compassion for the entire country of Libya? Where is her compassion for people who work for conservative and republican groups?

She is only compassionate when it suits her purposes. She goes with whatever direction the wind blows - we've seen that time and time again with her constant flip flopping on so many different issues - immigration, sanctuary cities, Iraq war, gun rights, taxes, etc.

She claims that she's going to fight Wall Street and the 'quarterly capitalists.' Yet, her capital gains tax plan makes NO CHANGE for capital gains tax paid on investments under 1 year - yet drastically raises it for investments held between 1 and 6 years. That's not hurting the 'quarterly capitalists' - that's hurting the people who invest in mutual funds and participate in employee stock purchase programs and retirees who live off of investments.

johnny reb
3 May 2016  #1562

The problem we have is that 47% of America who pay ZERO in Federal Income Tax are voting on what to charge everyone else.
Providing welfare to enable losers is simply making them slaves to the government.
I choose to have my freedom and independence like the Bill of Rights says.
To pursue happiness and I am not happy when someone else controls my life.

AdrianK9
3 May 2016  #1563

That's why when Republicans talk about lowering taxes it doesn't resonate with any of that 47% group - it makes absolutely no difference to them if taxes are low or high. However, they're all for taxing the wealthy and making them pay their fair share not realizing they already do and they're the ones that are responsible for most of the tax revenue.

I'm not in the 1% - but I certainly don't think the 1% should pay even more taxes. Quite frankly, I think it's better if the millionaires of the US stay in this country, spend their money here, and pay the appropriate tax rate than moving elsewhere and hiding their money abroad - like many are forced to do.

AdrianK9
3 May 2016  #1564

Looks like it's going to be Trump vs Hillary afterall...

Ah this will certainly be entertaining. I can hardly wait for all the things that the Trump campaign will uncover about Hillary.

As Trump said about Hillary - 'I haven't even started'

Lyzko
3 May 2016  #1565

I see Johnny, that you don't understand what a "loser" means!!

Any hard-working American taxpayer who desires something better, yet may just not be clever enough to "steal" in the markets, but survives by dint of their own labor is a WINNER in my book any day of the week:-)

delphiandomine
4 May 2016  #1566

Ah this will certainly be entertaining. I can hardly wait for all the things that the Trump campaign will uncover about Hillary.

Why do you assume that it's in Trump's interest to reveal these things? Trump might be many things, but he's no fool - he's not going to antagonise Clinton when she has the ear of many powerful people that Trump relies on in business.

I'm looking forward to this. Clinton has the advantage, but it will be incredibly fascinating to see if the GOP gets behind Trump, or if they accept this election as a lost cause and focus on making sure that they control the House/Senate.

The thing that makes me happy is that Clinton or Trump, it doesn't matter - we're going to have another social liberal in the White House. Trump couldn't care less about abortion and it's obvious that he couldn't really care less about gun rights as well.

johnny reb
4 May 2016  #1567

Looks like it's going to be Trump vs Hillary afterall...

Yup, he just locked it up.
Hillary is going to need psychiatric drugs to sleep at night when Trump gets done dragging her through the gutter.
Clinton has the advantage

What blog did you read that on ? lol
So far today you have spoken for Poland, Greece and now you are speaking for America with you not being a citizen of any of them. bla bla bla bla
Hillary will be suicidal when President Trump has her indicted and put in prison.
No hair die nor wrinkle cream in prison.
With all the face lifts that she has had, grey hair and a blank look on her face should make a lovely mug shot.
but survives by dint of their own labor is a WINNER in my book

Mine too so are you confusing loser with third and fourth generation welfare that make more money sitting on their front porch with a forty and a spliff refusing to work ?

Bieganski
4 May 2016  #1568

The race is now effectively down to two candidates who offer very radically opposing beliefs for the American electorate to choose from:

AdrianK9
4 May 2016  #1569

Hillary is going to need psychiatric drugs to sleep at night when Trump gets done dragging her through the gutter.

If I were working on Trump's candidacy I would just file bogus civil suit after criminal suit after civil suit - even if you can't win it still greatly pi$$es off the other person and wastes their time. The difference is though, there's so many legit things that people can after Hillary.

Like Trump said 'He hasn't even started with Hillary' this will sure get interesting. Maybe he's even biding his time and will get her indicted like a month before the election - who knows.

I'm looking forward to this. Clinton has the advantage,

According to the Rasmussen poll, Trump has the advantage.

Also, Bernie won Indiana - the Democratic party is divided. The only reason why so many Dems are voting for Hillary is not because they like her, but because they fear Trump. Also, many Bernie supporters will join the Trump camp.

Mine too so are you confusing loser with third and fourth generation welfare that make more money sitting on their front porch with a forty and a spliff refusing to work ?

These people are actually considered not be unemployed, but rather just not participating in the labor force. If you've stopped looking for works after like 6-12 months, you're no longer counted in that 5-6% unemployment figure- that's why it's so misleading.

gun rights

Matters very little in all honesty. The hard core gun people like me will give up their home and car before they give up their gun. I keep a pistol in my glove box at all times. Plus, now people can print their own 3D printed assault rifles with no serial numbers, no registration, nothing and it's totally legal since you made the gun yourself. Where ever there's a will there's a way - even with Obama doing everything he can to want to confiscate guns which Hillary will continue.

TheOther
4 May 2016  #1570

If I were working on Trump's candidacy I would just file bogus civil suit after criminal suit after civil suit

I would sue them for wasting tax payer's money and blocking the court system. :)

the Democratic party is divided

So is the GOP. Did that stop Trump?

According to the Rasmussen poll

One single poll out of how many that is in favor of Trump? All in all, Clinton leads by an average margin of 6.5 points. Sanders would even score an average of 13.4% over Trump, so don't get too excited yet.

realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html
realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_sanders-5565.html

AdrianK9
4 May 2016  #1571

I would sue them for wasting tax payer's money and blocking the court system. :)

Like Obama and Hillary have been doing for years?

TheOther
4 May 2016  #1572

Depends on how you look at it, doesn't it? ;)

There is already a conservative organization that really loves to file lawsuits, especially when it is against Democrats: the Judicial Watch. Since January 2009, this group has filed 900 Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) requests and over 90 lawsuits.

delphiandomine
4 May 2016  #1573

Hillary will be suicidal when President Trump has her indicted and put in prison.

You really are living on a different planet if you think Trump is going to make powerful enemies like that.

If I were working on Trump's candidacy I would just file bogus civil suit after criminal suit after civil suit - even if you can't win it still greatly pi$$es off the other person and wastes their time.

Which would result in huge voter backlash and the inevitable landslide for Clinton.

Like Trump said 'He hasn't even started with Hillary' this will sure get interesting.

Can you imagine the anger towards Trump if he tried such a stunt? He would almost certainly guarantee every single person with Democrat leanings to turn out on election day - which would be catastrophic for him. He would even risk moderate Republicans going over to Clinton simply in protest against such a blatant attempt to rig the election.

According to the Rasmussen poll, Trump has the advantage.

It's one poll. What we're actually seeing consistently is that Clinton is making inroads into states that were prevously solid Republican - for instance, Utah - realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/ut/utah_trump_vs_clinton-5834.html and Mississippi. He's got a long way to go, and I suspect a lot of "Christian" voters are going to be bitterly disappointed with him when he reveals himself to be far more politically moderate and far less interested in guns and abortion than his voters think.

Also, many Bernie supporters will join the Trump camp.

That's a hell of a statement, given that Sanders stands for everything that Trump doesn't. A few will, but the vast majority will fall behind Clinton to stop Trump.

The hard core gun people like me will give up their home and car before they give up their gun.

No-one will ask you to give up your gun, you'll just find more and more restrictions as the years go on.

One single poll out of how many that is in favor of Trump?

See it for yourself : realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html - Clinton is ahead by a considerable margin.

I'm rather looking forward to the fury on Trump supporters faces when they realise that his politics are very much NY and not trailer trash AL.

TheOther
4 May 2016  #1574

See it for yourself

Yes, I posted that link already... :)

AdrianK9
4 May 2016  #1575

He would even risk moderate Republicans going over to Clinton simply in protest against such a blatant attempt to rig the election.

There are millions of votes who want Hillary to be indicted, charged, and prosecuted for her crimes. I doubt the Republicans would turn away from Trump, but rather he happy that he was the one to lead the fight to make her accountable for all her crimes. Even Cruz and Bernie supporters want Hillary to go to jail.

I suspect a lot of "Christian" voters are going to be bitterly disappointed with him when he reveals himself to be far more politically moderate

He has on several occasions but that didn't change the fact that he was far more popular with the Evangelicals than other candidates.

That's a hell of a statement, given that Sanders stands for everything that Trump doesn't.

On many occasions people have equated Sanders with Trump explaining that he wants to start a sort of revolution and totally change the political and economic landscape of the country. They're both extreme candidates - just at different political spectrums.

Many polls have repeatedly shown Trump at a tremendous disadvantage. People have said there's no way he'd be the nominee. Yet it happened.

Lyzko
4 May 2016  #1576

@Johnny,

With your last reply post, I see we might actually (heaven forbid!!) be at least partially on the same homepage:-)
lol

AdrianK9
4 May 2016  #1577

Let's put it this way - Trump is FAR MORE popular than Mitt Romney was in 2012. He honestly has a strong chance of beating Hillary. However, I fear that the powers may do something to literally steal the peoples' voice. You never know with this crazy government that we have now... I mean literally now even cops are allowed to confiscate your car, home, money just by mere SUSPICION that you are a drug dealer even WITHOUT BEING CHARGED through civil forfeiture laws. I mean that's some crap that's straight out of confiscation of property during the Bolshevik revolution in Russia. Look up the case of Teneha - tiny town of 1,100 people raising millions every year by basically stealing peoples' cash, jewelry, cell phones - whatever is of value. We do not live in a real democracy but rather a quasi socialist oligarchy type of system. I don't trust the government at all.

As Stalin said - 'It's not the voters who count, it's the people who count the votes.

Lyzko
5 May 2016  #1578

Trump is riding on the dissatisfaction factor! Although Cruz may have been universally despised by members of the Washington "insider" set, Trump has been reviled by his own party (not to mention Cruz), but by the likes of Rand Paul along with other Conservative stalwarts.

Hillary is far more "electable", certainly than Sanders, and is also much more "liked" by her own party than disliked by the Trump camp. Trump has alienated about as many potential voters as he's attracted:-)

In short, she's a shoe in!

johnny reb
5 May 2016  #1579

In short, she's a shoe in!

Let's hope not as the people here in America all know that she belongs in prison and not the White House.
Last time she lived in the White House she stole $200,000 in paintings, china, silverware, furniture and etc.
How soon you forget.
That was just one of her minor felonious crimes.
A lot of Sanders voters were to young to remember all the scandals her and Bill were involved in starting way back when Bill was governor.
When President Trump starts exposing Hillary's disgusting crimes that have been hidden in the closet most of Sanders young voters will turn and be voting for Trump.
Hells bells you kids here haven't heard half of them yet because you were to young when they happened.
Like President Trump said, "I haven't even got started on her yet."
A federal judge just came out today and said that he wants to put Hillary Under Oath to answer questions about her illegal e-mails BEFORE she is nominated !
It just might be Trump vs. Sanders in the general yet so hold on before you go wetting yourself in all your excitement.

delphiandomine
5 May 2016  #1580

most of Sanders young voters will turn and be voting for Trump.

Why on earth would the average Sanders voter go anywhere near Trump?

You're clutching at straws - Clinton is making inroads into the South and she has a commanding lead in many key states.

One poll released today shows Clinton ahead by 13% - Trump is just nowhere to be seen. He's so unpopular that she has a chance of winning some southern states - which shows how weak he is. Let's not forget that Trump hasn't done a good job of raising money - he needs to either take the corporate cash or be outspent heavily.

Sanders voters aren't going to go anywhere near Trump for the simple reason that Trump has offended a *lot* of Sanders voters.

Szalawa
5 May 2016  #1581

Why on earth would the average Sanders voter go anywhere near Trump?

Health care and anti-establishment

johnny reb
5 May 2016  #1582

Personally I would like to see President Trump pick Condoleeza Rice for a V.P.
That move would clinch the presidency and bury Hillary forever.
No way would she do it but that would be the ultimate.
Realistically I would have to guess that he will be asking John Kasich or Ben Carson.
I would like to see Ted Cruz as the appointee to fill the Supreme Court seat.
That would get America rolling again.

AdrianK9
5 May 2016  #1583

Let's not forget that Trump hasn't done a good job of raising money - he needs to either take the corporate cash or be outspent heavily.

Being outspent doesn't matter - Indiana is a great example of that. Cruz spend $8 million - Trump spent $900k. Trump won.

It's now how much money you spend, but how you spend it. The negative Trump ads haven't been too effective. However, just wait till Trump starts with the negative Hillary ads.

Hells bells you kids here haven't heard half of them yet because you were to young when they happened.

You're right - I can only go off of what I read, however the scandals in the 90's and beyond I remember very well - as do many other people my age. The college crowd, 18-22, eh not so much. Most are aware though that she is totally scandal ridden yet they somehow appear to simply disregard the facts. I'm not even talking about flip flops - her handling of Libya, Iraq, and the email servers speak volumes.

Trump definitely needs a moderate VP - preferably female and minority. That would help him gain more support amongst Latinos and Blacks - actually there's far more blacks supporting Trump than there were during Romney's candidacy. Not sure about Latinos. The point is, everyone is sick of being out of work, getting low wages, and being taxed to death.

Why it that almost every single Pruis I see on the road is plastered with COEXIST and Bernie stickers?

AdrianK9
5 May 2016  #1584

Being a politician that wins elections requires 1 thing - lying.

You have to lie about what you'll do, who you'll support, and make all these sort of promises like to give amnesty to Mexicans - something that helped Obama secure the vote, TWICE, even though he deported more Mexicans than any other president.

This is why Hillary has been in politics for so long - she is a lying crook through and through. She's popular among Dems because she changed her position with whatever's popular. However, the people who aren't totally brainwashed and don't believe what the media tells them realize what's going on - those are the types of people that support Trump, or even Bernie. That's why its going to be easy for trump to win over a good percent of the anti-establishment Bernie supporters. He just has to be more presidential - that is, make false promises.

Lyzko
5 May 2016  #1585

@Delph, politics makes strange bedfellows:-)

delphiandomine
5 May 2016  #1586

Trump definitely needs a moderate VP - preferably female and minority.

Without a doubt. Failing that, what about Tim Scott, the Republican senator from SC? He ticks all the stereotypical Republican boxes while also being African-American and has a good business background. There's also Mia Love, who is young, African-American and from Utah, but her personal background doesn't appear strong enough to handle the vice presidency.

I'd actually love to see him take some young minority businesswoman - someone completely opposite to him, but also someone from outside of the existing establishment. Such a person would do a hell of a lot of damage to Clinton, and I'd put cash on Trump winning if he did that.

johnny reb
6 May 2016  #1587

some young minority businesswoman - Such a person would do a hell of a lot of damage to Clinton, and I'd put cash on Trump winning if he did that.

I wouldn't say a hell of a lot at all.
The educated women are already voting for Trump.
Trump doesn't need the low information female voters to win, in fact he has already conceited to that and gave Crooked Hillary the uneducated feminists that voted for Obama TWICE.
Did you see Trump come out today holding a Taco plate and yelling, "I LOVE LATINO'S !"
Hey the big earthquake is going to hit out their on the Left Coast any day now where all the Latino's and Libitards live and it is all going to fall into the ocean so Crooked Hillary will loose all those votes anyways, if she doesn't go to prison first.
Trump's a shoe in.

Szalawa
6 May 2016  #1588

Trump's a shoe in

If Trump becomes president I definitely need to come down to the US sometime

johnny reb
6 May 2016  #1589

Tonight Ben Carson made it clear that he was not interested in the job.
Now Trump is thinking of a Democratic pick for a V.P. since the GOP have turned their back on him.
More popcorn please.

delphiandomine
6 May 2016  #1590

The educated women are already voting for Trump.

You really do make statements based on nothing but your own fantasy. They aren't voting for Trump - educated women in particular are very much against him.

Trump doesn't need the low information female voters to win, in fact he has already conceited to that and gave Crooked Hillary the uneducated feminists that voted for Obama TWICE.

You don't get it, do you? Such attitudes from Trump voters is exactly what puts most women in the Clinton camp, especially in the crucial states of Florida and Ohio.

Did you see Trump come out today holding a Taco plate and yelling, "I LOVE LATINO'S !"

Turns out that he managed to irritate a significant part of the Latino community by doing so, as it's regarded as being a Mexican thing.


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