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2016 Presidential Elections in the US



Szalawa
6 May 2016  #1591

youtube.com/watch?v=W7I92r9GqUw
This was funny, it also reminded me of the discussion here on PF, it's great if you are a fan of 300 and Trump

johnny reb
6 May 2016  #1592

You really do make statements based on nothing but your

to complete the sentence correctly......
You really do make statements based on nothing more then what your read on the internet news media.
delph do you realize without the Liberal American bias news media that Crooked Hillary would be in prison right now ?
Once you catch on that the American media is the ONLY THING that Crooked Hillary has going for her.
This is why Trump keeps mocking the media because they have become so blatant about their bias.
They aren't voting for Trump - educated women in particular are very much against him.

Not true delph, the educated women are very aware of Crooked Hillary's crimes, it's the uneducated minority women that are clueless to what a failure she has been to America.
Well the uneducated women and men period.
Trump will bring it all out and when he does many of the young and uneducated low information voters will be educated by President Trump and vote for him after learning the truth about her past.
You don't get it do you.
Stay tuned as we will be happy to teach you as the elections in America proceed.

johnny reb
6 May 2016  #1593

Trump is making Capital Hill very nervous as he will upset their "Good Old Boys Club" to no end.
He will upset the big banks, he will upset just to many people's apple cart to ever let him be president.
Here is the up to the minute latest:

Now that Donald Trump is the last man standing in the Republican presidential race, his critics in the party are intensifying their search for a candidate they could back as a serious third-party alternative.

In short if the liberal media and Crooked Hillary can't beat him then the GOP will split the party forcing him to lose.
Ain't it great to be an American.........sometimes. lol

AdrianK9
6 May 2016  #1594

it's the uneducated minority women that are clueless to what a failure she has been to America.

They may not realize her failures as a president, but I think unless you live under a rock everyone in the US is aware of her countless scandals.

People compared Trump to Adolf Hitler. I think a more apt comparison would be Hillary's mentor Henry Kissinger to Adolf Hitler

Here's why:

Adolf Hitler committed genocide - Kissinger did (Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, Indonesia, Bangladesh, Chile, East Timor, etc.) Trump did not
Adolf Hitler manipulated elections - Kissinger did (Chile) Trump did not
Adolf Hitler created a system of military ruled government - Kissinger did (Operation Condor - Chile, Argentina, etc.) Trump did not
Adolf Hitler supported overthrows of foreign governments - namely Spain - Kissinger did (Chile, Arengtina, etc.), Trump never overthrew any governments nor supported overthrowing a democratically elected government
Adolf Hitler had political opponents kidnapped and murdered - Kissinger did too (René Schneider - who filed a lawsuit against Kissinger, similar politicies in Argentina), Trump never killed or kidnapped political opponents
Adolf Hitler was constantly starting war after war - Kissinger did, Trump was firmly against war especially in Iraq and only advocated taking out ISIS - a terrorist group
Adolf Hitler supported invading countries - Kissinger supported Iraq war (as well as countless other wars), Trump did not - again, he's firmly against the Iraq War
Adolf Hitler profited off of war - Kissinger did, Trump did not
Adolf Hitler called for genocide of millions of people - Kissinger one upped him by calling the death of 2 billion (1974 address to congress), Trump never advocated genocide
Adolf Hitler had terrible relations with Russia - Kissinger did too - his entire foreign policy revolved around ******* off the Soviets, Trump wants better relations with Russia

Hillary was mentored by the best - Adolf Hitler.. err.. I mean Henry Kissinger.

Kissinger also opened up China and made a huge amount of money from his company China Ventures, of which he was CEO and chairman, which he shared an interest along with the Chinese government. He was caught by a journalist in 1989 for not disclosing the funds. Trump is fighting against China ripping off the US, stealing our jobs, manipulating their currency, and taking away money. Kissinger does the opposite by colluding with Communist figures and investing in China. Also, he supported Ukraine deciding it's own destiny and stated that Ukraine shouldn't be pressured to join NATO.

Surprisingly, the one thing that I do admire Kissinger for is his criticism of the Kosovo wars and understanding the Serbs for not accepting the Rambouillet Agreement.

One thing I'd like to add about Kissinger is that he was chairman for National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States which investigated 9/11. Kissinger stepped down as chairman on December 13, 2002 because journalists and other people wanted to see who his list of clients were. However, instead of releasing this information, when questioned about potential conflicts of interest, he said he would rather step down. Hmmmm... conflict of interest? Could it be perhaps as chairman of a 9/11 committee some of those 'business clients' could have been people or groups who were involved in 9/11 like the dancing israelis, the Saudi government, mossad, the leaseholder of the WTC (Larry Silverstein who made a HUGE amount of money because of 9/11 0 $4.5 BILLION to be exact), Dov Zakheim who lost over $2 trillion of dollars - which was announced 1 day before 9/11 and has since never been recovered nor investigated, or Odigo - the Israeli instant messager company who warned its employees of an impending attack on 9/11?

Lyzko
6 May 2016  #1595

Trump will simply bring aboard HIS "Ol' Boys Club", so what's the difference then between so-called business as usual vs. Trump' agenda?

AdrianK9
6 May 2016  #1596

He will upset the big banks, he will upset just to many people's apple cart to ever let him be president.

I hope he dismantles, or audits, the Fed more than anything else. It is pathetic that something that the founding fathers fought so hard from being established ended up happening. Ever since 1913, the US dollar has declined over 95% relative to inflation. To make matters worse, for decades the US government was forcing people to turn in gold they had stored in their homes, under threat of arrest, further devaluing the US dollar.

Trump will put this country back on its feet... if he wins. We need a businessman more than ever to run the economy and not another socialist that is going to merely look after the welfare classes who essentially vote, riot, and complain about white people for a living. The taxpayers need some relief - not the people who are supported by the taxpayers.

TheOther
6 May 2016  #1597

We need a businessman more than ever to run the economy and not another socialis

Wouldn't it be funny if Hillary wins the nomination and picks Bernie as her running mate? I can hear the GOP screaming already...

johnny reb
6 May 2016  #1598

Trump will simply bring aboard HIS "Ol' Boys Club", so what's the difference then between so-called business as usual vs. Trump' agenda?

Business is usual is so far deep seated that nothing will change besides them getting even more powerful and rich to suppress the working people who built this country by making government even bigger.
I like my independence and I don't like the government taking my freedoms and independence away.
Trump will tear that all apart and give America a chance to be great again.
Face it Lyzko, your way has destroyed America to almost a third world with no one respecting us.
Time to go back to the basics that worked and made this country the most powerful in the world.
You don't want to get it because without the teachers union and tenure you would be without a job.
Get it now ?
I can hear the GOP screaming already...

Maybe for a week or two but nothing like the ex-pat cry babies in Poland about the PiS.

Lyzko
7 May 2016  #1599

My way builds trust and confidence in an America of the 1950's before affirmative action etc. destroyed the lives of majority Americans such as we who earned our way and weren't given!

johnny reb
7 May 2016  #1600

I thought you were voting for Hillary.

Lyzko
7 May 2016  #1601

I am and that's why I'm voting for her and not Sanders. At least Hillary has a chance of winning!

johnny reb
7 May 2016  #1602

The long list of crimes that she has committed, her habitual lying, all of her scandals, the possibility that she may end up in prison yet........None of that bothers you to vote for such a corrupt person to be called the Commander and Chief of America.
I don't understand why anyone would want the Clinton Crime family running their country.
Mitt will end up being the third candidate and could very well win over the other two.
The voters who would rather vote for him than hold their noises and vote for either the two.

johnny reb
7 May 2016  #1603

Lyzko you have to vote for the best person and not the party.
Let me tell you a little story about Trump's ability to negotiate.

When Trump purchased and rebuilt Mar-A-Lago, the grand mansion and estate in Palm Beach, Florida he got into a dispute with the city fathers who are well known for being strict on zoning regulations.
Trump put up a 50-foot flag pole even though 30 feet is the maximum allowed to not be overly patriotic and offend other nationalities.
The city imposed a $1,000 per day fine while Trump and city officials argued back and forth.
Finally, when the fine had reached a total of $120,000 Trump proposed a solution.

He would donate that amount to veteran's organizations, would move the flag to a different spot in front of the mansion, and would only use a 30 foot flagpole.
The city agreed.
So Trump brought in the company that does his golf course construction, had them build a 20-foot high grassy hill, and put the 30-foot flag pole on top of that.
Now, would you rather have Trump negotiating an Iranian deal, or any deal or would you rather have Crooked Hillary....What Difference Does It Make ?
Just sayin'.........

Lyzko
8 May 2016  #1604

He's also being royally sued by a university, claiming he willfully defrauded business students by promising results which could not possibly be achieved:-)
Hate to tarnish your Golden Boy, Johnny O, but, ahhhemmm, methinks thou needest to remove thy rose-colored specsLOL

johnny reb
8 May 2016  #1605

Me think you indulge in your week end recreational drugs to much as you are so mixed up with the facts.
First the Trump University is getting sued by the attorney general not his own university suing him.
Second 98 percent of students in a survey termed the program "excellent" so 2% of the failures cried fowl.
Third. All it boils down to is extortion from Trump.
And to think our college instructors in this country such as yourself are teacher our youth such B.S.
Oh ja ja.

Lyzko
8 May 2016  #1606

And so any truth which punctures the illusions of your hero is therefore suspect, is that it? Well, no dice, as we say further north!
Trump hasn't changed his agenda one iota from the start and he's a filthy, dangerous megalomaniac with the makings of a Faschist demagogue.

Szalawa
8 May 2016  #1607

I am not fond of "Trump University" which happened not to be a real university and was requested to change the name of the institution as it infringed the term "university". I believe Trump was not directly responsible, but that is what precisely got him in trouble. He is being sued because the students believe this was run under a third party and Trump was not directly involved with the material.

johnny reb
8 May 2016  #1608

And so any truth which punctures the illusions

Didn't any of what I posted sink in Lyzko.
Facts are not illusions son.
I couldn't have explained it any clearer.
You being the typical liberal, use the old libitard stand bye, when losing a debate starts with the nasty name calling.
Why do I waste my time with you.

AdrianK9
9 May 2016  #1609

I'm sorry, but anyone that's willing to pay tens of thousands of dollars for 'real estate secrets' deserves to be ripped off...

This isn't any different that the way most corporations operate. People who are ignorant and aren't knowledgeable get taken advantage of. It's sad and it sucks but that's the way capitalist society is. Look at all the people who signed ARM mortgages before the housing market burst. Even when you go shop for a car unless you really know a lot about cars chances are you will overpay. People go on some bs car websites and think they're experts after spending 10 minutes on Kelly blue book or true car value not realizing even those figures are jacked up. You can assume almost every product or service you buy is a rip off.

Even say a high end brand, several thousand dollar watch like Omega, IWC, or Breitling. Well the Valjoux 7750 movement inside it costs a few hundred dollars at best. Some watches like Tissot (a cheap omega) or victornox often use the same Valjoux 7750 movement yet cost a fraction of the price of an omega or brietling. Yet no one gets their panties in a bunch that they spent 4000 on a watch with the same moment as a $400 one. So when a guy says 'man check out my new breitling' I hear 'hi I'm a ******* idiot.' Again, unless your knowledgeable you will get ripped off.

I wonder if these same people are also complaining about the thousands they sent to a Nigerian prince for inheritance processing fees.

Marsupial
9 May 2016  #1610

We need a trump in australia also to sweep out the overused trash. How lucky are you lot!

AdrianK9
9 May 2016  #1611

We're only lucky if he wins... now that he's supporting trans people using any bathroom they want I don't know if that's such a good thing. Then again, it's a minor issue in the big picture of things which I feel Trump will handle far better than Hillary.

porky pok
9 May 2016  #1612

He already is attacking HRC with her hubbis character

Marsupial
9 May 2016  #1613

I think he will win as I said before but if he doesn't he will sure shake up the place.

Ironside
9 May 2016  #1614

Yes, Hillary for Prison.

AdrianK9
9 May 2016  #1615

I hope Trump cancels the Open Immigration law of 1965 and stands up to the types of people like Jacob Javits who famously said 'Open the floodgates!'

Our country really is a mess - we have hardly any border protection, our infrastructure is crumbling, the economy is in tatters (the 5-6% unemployment number is total b.s. because if a person stops looking for a job after a certain amount of time they're no longer counted in this 5-6% figure), manufacturing is down 50% - even 75% or higher in some areas, wages are extremely low - there's little hope for a fresh college graduate let alone a high school one, the lobbies run this country, the federal agencies like the FDA, CDC, USDA, Treasury Dept are all run by people who use to work for the very same corporations that these agencies and departments are suppose to oversee, our federal reserve is sucking the lifeblood out of the economy and has turned the nation into debtors - the new banking law (cromnibus) states that risky banks will be bailed out by taxpayers and makes it easier for companies to cut pensions for retirees - especially if pension funds weren't properly funded by the employer among many other terrible changes with this lobby-written bill (like the Dodd-Frank act - which was essentially written by Citigroup lobbyists). Our politicians do the exact opposite of what is good for the citizenry all int he name of receiving more campaign contributions.. I could go on and on... it's a total mess and each day it keeps getting worse and worse.

I don't think that it can even all be fixed.. I think we need a totally new clean slate and just start from scratch. I can't think of one aspect of the US where there aren't severe issues. It is mind boggling how politics could have ruined such a great country and turned it from a prosperous nation where an individual could provide for a family right after high school with 1 income to now where 2-3 generations have to share a home with everyone working and still struggle to have a basic existence.

delphiandomine
9 May 2016  #1616

Some watches like Tissot (a cheap omega) or victornox often use the same Valjoux 7750 movement yet cost a fraction of the price of an omega or brietling.

However, it's not about the mechanism, but the image.

Trump is probably the finest example of that ;) I watched a very fascinating documentary about his plane, and it was very obvious that he cared about the finest details - not because it made a difference to the plane, but because of the image that it projected.

I'm sorry, but anyone that's willing to pay tens of thousands of dollars for 'real estate secrets' deserves to be ripped off...

I actually admire Trump for the way that he's made a lot of money out of stupid people.

Real estate secrets, by Delphiandomine :

1) Negotiate hard, and don't be afraid to walk away
2) Buy for far less than the actual market value (based on sales, not on what estate agents tell you)
3) Sell for more than the market value
4) Profit

There. Anyone paying Trump tens of thousands of dollars for that needs their head examined.

TheOther
9 May 2016  #1617

We need a trump in australia also to sweep out the overused trash.

We had one already, and that was one too many. Remember Bjelke-Petersen, the "Hillbilly Dictator"?

AdrianK9
9 May 2016  #1618

That's why I'm saying, anyone that pays thousands of dollars for real estate 'secrets' deserves to get ripped off.

Lyzko
9 May 2016  #1619

You see, Adrian, I was right about a vote for Trump being a protest vote, not FOR Trump necessarily, but AGAINST the mess he will have inherited, should he be elected:-)

The man certainly has no socially redeeming features, moreover, he's no longer especially good looking, furthermore, his rhetoric's vulgar, not to mention as flat as yesterday's fizz!

He's a plain blowhard who's fired up a bunch of yahoos and fringies, trying to make the lunatic right seem more palatable than the lunatic left, no more, no less!!!

As a "force" in politics?? Don't make me puke!!

Marsupial
9 May 2016  #1620

@the other....yeah bit before my time but he was a banana bender up there didnt run the country. Not sure how he ciuld be compared to trump.


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