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2016 Presidential Elections in the US



johnny reb
18 Aug 2016  #2341

"Paul Manafort, the chairman of Donald Trump's presidential campaign

So the Trumpster had NOTHING to do with this himself. BFD !
Now comes Crooked Hillary's (HERSELF) receiving illegal foreign donations to the $200 MILLION Clinton Foundation.
US law requires lobbying firms to register and report in detail to the Justice Department any ties to foreign political parties or leaders."

LMFAO - Tell that to Clinton herself as she took MILLIONS of illegal donations from foreign governments and special interests to the Clinton Crime Families Foundation while Secretary of State. That is a felony for most people.
washingtonpost.com/politics/foreign-governments-gave-millions-to-foundation-while-clinton-was-at-state-dept/2015/02/25/31937c1e-bc3f-11e4-8668-4e7ba8439ca6_story.html

TheOther
18 Aug 2016  #2342

I don't have to justify my Faith to you.

Who said that you have to, Johnny? All I'm asking you is why YOU think that the Christian God is the only real one and all the others out there are not. Who knows, maybe you are a religious bigot who - given the chance - would be more than happy to nail any Buddhist, atheist or Muslim to the nearest cross?

I was born in America as a U.S. Citizen

So? You think that second generation immigrants like you are somehow better or more American than first generation ones?

...so if you don't like God being in our schools go back to where the hell you come from ... We don't want your kind in America ...

LOL! Between 56% and 67% of all Americans support the separation of church and state. You want to kick these 180+ million people out as well?

johnny reb
19 Aug 2016  #2343

Who said that you have to, Johnny?

You sure seem to be expecting me to justify my Faith to you for some reason.
Get lost as I don't have to explain squat to you about my religious beliefs.
Must frustrated the hell out of you not being able to get someone to take your bait for one of your moot arguments.
You think that second generation immigrants like you are somehow better or more American than first generation ones?

No, I think a native born American is not an immigrant such as the transplant that you are.
Americans support the separation of church and state.

So do I as you have the option to believe or not to believe in the God America was founded on.
But no immigrant (Like You) is going to come to my country and tell me that my children can not pray in their school if they choose to.
Get it.

TheOther
19 Aug 2016  #2344

But no immigrant (Like You) is going to come to my country and tell me that my children can not pray in their school if they choose to.

You don't need immigrants like me to tell you that. Take it from the other 180+ million Americans who don't want their children to be exposed to your (or anybody else's) religious belief system at school.

I think a native born American is not an immigrant such as the transplant that you are.

So how do you call your parents then? Transplants that are not "worthy" Americans like you?

Get lost as I don't have to explain squat to you about my religious beliefs

Not necessary ... your reaction was answer enough. You can barely control your hate and anger, just like all religious fundamentalists.

johnny reb
19 Aug 2016  #2345

Take it from the other 180+ million Americans who don't want their children to be exposed to your (or anybody else's) religious belief system at school.

Let's see now, there are 330 million people in the United States.
77% are Christians
77% of 330 million is 254 million Christians
330 million people minus 254 million Christians leaves 76 million
How the hell did you come up with 180 million ?
Never mind, your minute 5% (17 million) just want to argue your hate toward Christians.

The large majority of Americans -- 77% of the adult population -- identify with a Christian religion, including 52% who are Protestants or some other non-Catholic Christian religion, 23% who are Catholic, and 2% who affiliate with the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Another 18% of Americans do not have an explicit religious identity and 5% identify with a non-Christian religion.

Hey TheOther, Go jump in the lake !

TheOther
19 Aug 2016  #2346

How the hell did you come up with 180 million ?

I wish you would read and use your brain before you start ranting, Johnny. Only once! We were talking about the separation of state and church, and how many Americans (Christian or otherwise) want to keep religion out of public institutions like schools. Google it and do the math yourself ...

...if you don't like God being in our schools go back to where the hell you come from.

You are telling the majority of Americans who disagree with you and your ilk to f*uck off. Such a nice guy... :)

johnny reb
19 Aug 2016  #2347

Such a nice guy...

Takes a nice person to bring the nicenest out of me.
(I can't wait for the big one to have the Left Coast fall into the ocean) :-)
You are telling the majority of Americans

No, just you.
We don't want your kind of ilk here in our country that was founded on Christian values.
This is why we support Trump and vetting.
You are a poster child for vetting.

Lyzko
19 Aug 2016  #2348

Any W.A.S.P., native-born American who claims they AREN'T of "immigrant" stock (after all England is a country last time I checked) is by definition a Native AmericanLOL

TheOther
19 Aug 2016  #2349

No, just you.

Don't embarrass yourself, Johnny. Why don't you just admit that you made a mistake?

We don't want your kind of ilk here in our country

Second generation PolAm speaking... :)

I can't wait for the big one to have the Left Coast fall into the ocean

You guys buried in 10 feet of snow (like last year) sounds much more appealing. LOL.

Native American

The US was built on the back of immigrants, and it is still dependent on them to maintain its #1 position in the world. Our school system sucks, and the folks in D.C. know it.

peterweg
19 Aug 2016  #2350

OTHING to do with this himself. BFD !

Errmm. Trump is Russia Agent. You havn't challenged that fact.

Lyzko
19 Aug 2016  #2351

Your response, although historically correct (the lure of cheap labor and all!) doesn't reply to Johnny's statement. Native Americans are the only "Americans" who are not of immigrant status:-)

johnny reb
20 Aug 2016  #2352

Don't embarrass yourself,

Don't fret yourself, who would want to be an embarrassment like you.
Second generation PolAm

Yup and first generation American.
You're first generation Auzzie immigrant
You guys buried in 10 feet of snow

Left coast is presently burning.
Do you have renters insurance or do your parents give you that space in their basement free to live in.
Our school system sucks

"Our" ? You are not an American so the proper terminology would be "your school system sucks", not our.
Native Americans are the only "Americans" who are not of immigrant status:-)

And Jesus wept.
Trump is Russia Agent

Only in your video game Peter.

peterweg
20 Aug 2016  #2353

Trump is Russia Agent
Only in your video game Peter.

According to the Republican party and the US intelligence agencies, Trump is a Russian Agent.

Even Trump's own Son in Law thinks Trump is a Putin Puppet.

observer.com/2016/08/yes-american-spies-really-think-trump-is-putins-guy

But you don't care about that as you would prefer a Russian dictator as President rather than an American, as you said.

Ziemowit
20 Aug 2016  #2354

Native Americans are the only "Americans" who are not of immigrant status:-)

That is wrong as native Americans also came to America from Asia long time before historical times. But in this respect, everyone in Europe is of immigrant status, too. Only Africa may be considered exceptional as mankind originated there :-).

Even Trump's own Son in Law thinks Trump is a Putin Puppet.

Son-in-law is not a genetic family so his opinion to the subject is irrelevant.

Trump a Putin puppet? Is this a new secret campaign launched by the KGB (the FSB at present).

peterweg
20 Aug 2016  #2355

Trump a Putin puppet? Is this a new secret campaign launched by the KGB (the FSB at present).

Less secret now, but yes.

If you read here, 20committee.com what remarkable is that he (John 'dick photo' Schindler) was calling for Clinton to be persecuted for treason and announced his support for Trump.

Now he's calling Trump a Russian agent.

johnny reb
20 Aug 2016  #2356

Trump is a Russian Agent.

I tried so hard to avoid his bait Z but he just couldn't control himself and just had to release his orgasm that was pent up inside him.
Something he read on the internet that got him so excited.
(And we know everything on the internet is true) :-o lol
you would prefer a Russian dictator as President rather than an American, as you said.

I thought I said that I would rather have Putin for my President then Liar Crooked Crime Criminal Hillary.
That is wrong as native Americans also came to America

Shhhh, Lyzko is a (and I am using these words VERY loosely) a self proclaimed history teacher, that is teaching our children these lies.
That is why I just replied to such stupidity, "Jesus wept."
You should know by now that you shouldn't try to (can't) correct a school teacher.
calling for Clinton to be persecuted for treason

All of America is calling for that Pete's.
Now he's calling Trump a Russian agent.

"What difference does it make now ?" LOL

TheOther
20 Aug 2016  #2357

"Our" ? You are not an American so the proper terminology would be "your school system sucks", not our.

And this is what happens if you drop out of high school, kids... :)

Lyzko
20 Aug 2016  #2358

@Ziemowit,

Thousands of years ago is by definition no longer requiring of "immigrant" status! They've long since graduated to the level of "natives".

johnny reb
21 Aug 2016  #2359

Thousands of years ago is by definition no longer requiring of "immigrant" status!

(As he digs his hole deeper and deeper.)
These are the kind of people teaching our children and voting for Crooked Hillary........"the low information voters".

Definition of native:
dictionary.com/browse/native

adjective
1. being the place or environment in which a person was born or a thing came into being:
one's native land.

2. belonging to a person by birth or to a thing by nature; inherent:
native ability; native grace.

3. belonging by birth to a people regarded as indigenous to a certain place, especially a preliterate people:
Native guides accompanied the expedition through the rain forest.

4. born in a particular place or country:
a native New Yorker.

noun

1. a person born in a particular place or country:
a native of Texas.

Class almost dismissed.

You think that second generation immigrants like you

No, I think a native born American is not an immigrant such as the transplant that you are.

Don't embarrass yourself, Johnny. Why don't you just admit that you made a mistake?

I beg to differ as it was YOU who embarrassed yourself so why don't you just admit YOUR mistake.

TheOther
21 Aug 2016  #2360

I beg to differ

Jeez... . We were talking about your faulty math in post #2345. You made a simple logical mistake by assuming that every Christian in the USA is automatically in favor of bringing God back into our classrooms. That is incorrect. The majority of Americans (and that includes a large number of Christians and native born Americans!) are FOR the separation of state and church, and therefore AGAINST bringing religion back into our schools and other public institutions.

But of course: all of the above is untrue and it's all fault of the immigrants. LOL!

johnny reb
21 Aug 2016  #2361

How did we go from the definition of a Immigrant to Church and State ?
Oh that's right, you were proven WRONG again on that definition so you changed the subject to save face. Kids today.
The majority of Americans are FOR the separation of state and church,

If you want to believe that you can.
Only an idiot would deny that when God was removed from the schools in this Country America started to go to hell in a hand basket.

​It just keeps coming and coming about the Clinton Crime Families Foundation.
The kingdom of Saudi Arabia donated more than $10 million.
Through a foundation so did the son in law of a former Ukrainian president whose government was criticized for corruption and the murder of journalists.
A Lebanese-Nigerian developer with vast business interests contributed as much as $5 million.
For years the Bill, Hillary and Chelsea Clinton Foundation thrived largely on the generosity of foreign donors and individuals who gave hundreds of millions of dollars to the global charity that only 10% actually went to the charity with the other 90% being spent on "Administration Fees".
ie: air travel first class for the Clinton family, $10,000 a night rooms, "business" vacations, personal lawyers, etc.
But now as Crooked Hillary seeks the White House one may think it is "payback time".
Could "CONFLICT of INTEREST be a factor here ?
But what difference does it make now ?

Lyzko
21 Aug 2016  #2362

Johnny, your definition of "native" therefore confirms why Native Americans are "natives", NOT immigrants:-)
LOL

johnny reb
22 Aug 2016  #2363

How did we go from me not being a native to the U.S. and being an immigrant to America to Native Americans are natives ? lol
No sh!t Sherlock, Native Americans are native which I never questioned.
Try to stay on the topic of the subject and not switch in mid stream to merely save your loser face.
Like what is the price of strawberries in Florida this time of year. WTF ! lol
your definition

Not mine Professor Whiz Bang, try Oxford Dictionaries definition. (Google it)
Go argue with them dill weed.
And to actually think we have illiterates like you dumbing down our children with your brilliance (rolls eyes while doing palm plant on forehead)
God save us.

johnny reb
22 Aug 2016  #2364

Finally the news media is calling the $400 million CASH exchange what exactly what it was.
Republican senator Mark Kirk said on Sunday that Barack Obama was "acting like the drug dealer-in-chief" when his administration used the delivery of a $400m payment to Iran as what it called "leverage".
To give clean cash to a State Sponsored Terrorist Country is the same exact thing.
The United States has a policy of not negotiating with terrorist but apparently Obama is above this.
And you want Crooked Hillary for a continuation of this ?
Trump is our only hope for this country.

TheOther
22 Aug 2016  #2365

How did we go from the definition of a Immigrant to Church and State ?

Do you ever follow the course of a conversation? :)

If you want to believe that you can.

That's not my idea, Johnny. All relevant statistics support my point. If you don't want to believe that, well ... that's up to you, of course. The America you have in mind is long gone - probably since the mid 1960's already.

Trump is our only hope for this country.

Now flip-flopping on immigration ...

Lyzko
22 Aug 2016  #2366

Trump's campaign's on the fritz.... and high time too, I'd say!

See, what you and many others throughout the country fail to grasp is that prior to the end of the Cold War, the US actually WANTED to protect, defend and serve ALL her citizens, because the gov't. was terrified that the dissatisfied would defect to the Soviet Union. Once Reagan "destroyed" Communism and the long hated Wall finally fell, our gov't. no longer felt the same need to protect her citizens any longer and this is but one of umpteen other reasons why our nation's been in the pickle she's been ever since:-)

Tinker, even ever so slightly, with the balance of power and watch what happens.

johnny reb
22 Aug 2016  #2367

The $400 million was a ransom.
One more reason Obama will go down as the worst president ever.
Even with his Obama Care failing, as we said it would, he won't even have his legacy to brag about.
This is why we need someone like Trump who doesn't ignore and bastardize the Constitution every chance he gets.

peterweg
22 Aug 2016  #2368

Who cares how bad Clinton or Obama are.

They are not Russian puppets.

Wulkan
22 Aug 2016  #2369

They aren't indeed, they are Soros's puppets. Who is Russian puppet though?

Lyzko
22 Aug 2016  #2370

The only Russian puppets I know look like matruschka dollsLOL

Seriously, I too have got to jump on the anti-Soros bandwagon. He's the ultimate reason why there's mega-corruption in politics to the degree there is nowadays, along with everyday life:-

A dangerous and disgusting figure!!

Then again, perhaps Soros and Trump are actually Putin puppets, ever thought of that?


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