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Miloslaw
19 Apr 2023  #2371

Dear USSR, KGB, and Pravda ... you are looking better and better with each passing day..

Really?
A fascist dictatorship looks better than America to you?
Don't you have doctors in America that can solve your denial with drugs or some sort of therapy?

Miloslaw
19 Apr 2023  #2372

. Tough on psychos and liars.

Only on those that YOU think are psychos and liars.
And your opinion is very suspect.

johnny reb
20 Apr 2023  #2373

Tough on psychos and liars.

Don't be so hard on yourself.

johnny reb
20 Apr 2023  #2374

He already tried that and it didn't work

Novichok
20 Apr 2023  #2375

A fascist dictatorship looks better than America to you?

Is everybody here suffering from diminished English comprehension? This is funny because I am the one who never studied English.
Let me try anyway...

...looking better and better with each passing day.

...means better than yesterday, not better than something else. Duh!

A fascist dictatorship looks better than America to you?

No, idiot. I never compared the USSR to America. I compared the USSR yesterday to the USSR today - both being tyrannical sh*itholes.
Did you get it or do I have to explain it again?

You need to stop taking main threads off-topic

Novichok
20 Apr 2023  #2376

You certainly like provoking people. :):):)

Only those I don't like.

Only in his personal wealth and power.

Do you mean like Biden?

Alien
20 Apr 2023  #2377

In case you mean Nordstream again

Nordstream exist and it will be run in the future.

mafketis
20 Apr 2023  #2378

I compared the USSR yesterday to the USSR today

The USSR no longer exists.... and hasn't for over 30 years.... to bad you never learned to read a calendar.....

mafketis
20 Apr 2023  #2379

Only when the proceeds go to Ukraine.... russia gave up its right to make money on that line in feb of last year

johnny reb
20 Apr 2023  #2380

Nordstream exist and it will be run in the future.

Actually it still does in an indirect route.
China, India, and others have ramped up imports of Russian oil and are selling it to the West,
So Allien, who is the bad guys here ?
China and India for ignoring the sanctions to cash in $$ on buying and reselling Russian sanctioned oil or the Western Countries that buy the sanctioned oil from a second party ?

It's called, "Polytricks".

Alien
20 Apr 2023  #2381

who is the bad guys here ?

Everybody.....a little bit.

johnny reb
20 Apr 2023  #2382

How effective would you say the sanctions on Russian oil was/is ?

Nordstream exist and it will be run in the future.

Of course it will but the sad part is that Poland will still continue to burn its dirty coal to cause acid rain and carbon emissions.

Alien
20 Apr 2023  #2383

How effective would you say the sanctions on Russian oil was/is ?

Everyone is trying to evade these sanctions, however, in the long term, sanctions are important.

GefreiterKania
20 Apr 2023  #2384

other Eastern European countries in interest groups like Visegrad

Nobody with even cursory knowledge of European culture and history would classify Visegrad group as eastern. How about changing your nickname from Tacitus to Derectumloquitus? ;)

...could it be about the germanic/slavic divide?

Sounds more plausible but still inaccurate: e.g. Czechs and Russians are both Slavic, not very much in common between these two countries. Also, Australia and Iceland are both Germanic in origin (if you look at core population). Ethnic divisions don't stand to any closer scrutiny these days.

Paulina
20 Apr 2023  #2385

Greece is usually considered part of Southern Europe despite being mostly Orthodox.

Well, I'm not surprised considering that geographically Greece is... in the South of Europe :))) And Poland is geographically in Central Europe :)

You know, I'm not making this sh1t up ;D:

britannica.com/place/Poland

"Poland, country of central Europe"

That has nothing to do with being part of Eastern Europe.

What does then?

Poland is openly cooperating with other Eastern European countries in interest groups like Visegrad

The member states of Visegrad Group are all Central European countries, not Eastern European:

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visegr%C3%A1d_Group

"a cultural and political alliance of four Central European countries: the Czech Republic, Hungary, Poland, and Slovakia."

and outside of the EU.

So? All kinds of countries are "openly cooperating" with all kinds of other countries lol What does it have to do with anything? Germany was pretty open about "cooperating" with Eastern European RuSSia... :)

Bratwurst Boy
20 Apr 2023  #2386

Ethnic divisions don't stand to any closer scrutiny these days.

Not today, no! But the term "Eastern Europe" is old enough for that....I would think. Who came actually up with that???

GefreiterKania
20 Apr 2023  #2387

Who came actually up with that?

My guess and favourite villain would be the Doublesnot (also known as Bi-smark or Bismarck).

Bratwurst Boy
20 Apr 2023  #2388

Hey! :)

GefreiterKania
20 Apr 2023  #2389

What can I say? Nothing good can come from somebody whose name is Doublesnot. ;)

Paulina
20 Apr 2023  #2390

Who came actually up with that???

Mapmakers?? lol

But the term "Eastern Europe" is old enough for that....

I'm not sure what you mean, tbh...

I mean, it was the Germans who came up with the political concept of "Mitteleuropa", right? So I guess the political idea of Central Europe is older than the Iron Curtain division...

A map from Wikipedia:

Mitteleuropa

eh

Bratwurst Boy
20 Apr 2023  #2391

A map from Wikipedia

It's really curious I must say....somehow Hungary fits into Central Europe in a way Poland somehow does not (purely from a german viewpoint spoken)....maybe that has to do with the historical connection to Austria???

Anyway...if Poles so strongly object to be seen as "Eastern" we Germans should learn to respect that!

GefreiterKania
20 Apr 2023  #2392

@Paulina

Your map of Mitteleuropa is practically identical to OECD's and World Bank's map of Central Europe. Let's see what Derectumloquitus has to say about that. :)

if Poles so strongly object to be seen as "Eastern"

It's not really us who object - it's geography, culture, history and common sense who object the most.

we Germans should learn to respect that!

BB for the Chancellor!

Bratwurst Boy
20 Apr 2023  #2393

Och nö....aber Danke! :)

Paulina
20 Apr 2023  #2394

(purely from a german viewpoint spoken)....maybe that has to do with the historical connection to Austria???

Really? Just because Hungary was part of Austria for a while? lol It is curious indeed... I wonder if Tacitus will confirm this - after all he thinks that the Visegrád Group consists of Eastern European countries and Hungary is part of the Visegrád Group, so... hmm... 🤔

Bratwurst Boy
20 Apr 2023  #2395

Nah....if he is smart he will cool his bruises, back out slowly and never mention that topic ever again....it's dangerous territory...for Germans.....

Bobko
20 Apr 2023  #2396

@Bratwurst Boy

As a Russian, I can speak more freely :)

Poland is a mutant country, of East and West - borrowing the worst from both. They are cunning and duplicitous, like Easterners, and paradoxically naive and romantic like Westerners.

Bratwurst Boy
20 Apr 2023  #2397

paradoxically naive and romantic like Westerners

...wouldn't pragmatic and materialistic be a better fit for Westerners? Okay....we once had a romantic period....but that's long gone....

Bobko
20 Apr 2023  #2398

Westerners
...wouldn't pragmatic and materialistic be a better fit for Westerners?

I would say that was in the past. Today, the West is all about "ideas", whatever the hell that means.

The idea of East and West is at least a couple millennia old, and the descriptions have been surprisingly similar throughout the ages.

1) The East is ancient, the West is new.

2) The East is cruel, the West is more humanistic.

3) The individual means nothing in the East, in the West he is center of all things.

4) The East is wise, the West is idealistic.

5) The East is patient, the West is rash.

6) The East respects the past, the West is all about the present.

Bratwurst Boy
20 Apr 2023  #2399

Today, the West is all about "ideas", whatever the hell that means.

Hmmm....maybe not that wrong....just today I watched live the test start of westerner Elon Musk's new Starship. Just a tiny step towards a future which will bring mankind to Mars and further....

Whereas an eastern nutter at the same time tries to turn back time to the forties of the last century...

mafketis
20 Apr 2023  #2400

Here, an honorable Russian (who left the country to escape the rot) talks about this week's news... it's nuts.

youtube.com/watch?v=aauG7hxJ4uY


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