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pawian
30 Nov 2024  #751

Were you invited into the conversation ?

I didn`t need any just like you didn`t need an invitation to address me though you had vowed to ignore me and requested the same treatment from me. Why do you go back on your words so frequently??? It doesn`t make you a too reliable person.... :)_:):):P)|:_)P:):P)

has no idea what the meaning of the word invitation is

Actually, I did but it seems you are mistaking the forum for a nameday party at your aunt`s.... :):):) Wake up! Stop daydreaming.

Are you sure everything is okay with you, or do you need help?

Hmmmm................. ):):)

Novichok
30 Nov 2024  #752

And men are just as stupid.

Those are trans men with tits and cvnts. Or at least gays - you know...the guys that confuse the body orifices...and are shocked to see their sperm go to waste...

Przelotnyptak1
30 Nov 2024  #753

Are you sure everything is okay with you, or do you need help?

Absolutely. I just felt stricken with sadness. The first couple of weeks were hell, but now it is much better. I don't need help in any form; time is the best healer.

What started the confusion , was me asking Rich for help, in getting trough the sleeples night, by ocupying my restles mind, with few additional messages instead of eyebaling the siling.
I am curious why are you asking such a question? Please answer I would appreciate your answer.

pawian
30 Nov 2024  #754

What started the confusion , was me asking Rich for help, in getting trough the sleeples night, by ocupying my restles mind, with few additional messages instead of eyebaling the siling.

Why didn`t you pray for the consolation of your troubled mind??? I noticed it long ago that you mention God aka Goddess once in a light shade of blue moon. Aren`t you a believer????

I am curious why are you asking such a question?

Because we want to help you cease struggling with life and people at last.

Przelotnyptak1
30 Nov 2024  #755

Because we want to help you cease struggling with life and people at last.
@ pawian

Pawian, I don't want to get involved in a senseless discussion that will lead to nowhere. I don't question your ability to reason; I question your judgment.
If you assume that anybody can be helped by relying on PF
you are more troubled than you realize. I personally do not believe in sociologists' ability to provide meaningful help; forget the bloviators on PF. It is widely held, believe, even in scientific circles, that sociology is not a science; Toughness of the mind, perseverance

believing in the Higher Power, the healing effect of the passage of time, and life after will get anyone through the troubled waters much more effectively than a professional.

pawian
30 Nov 2024  #756

If you assume that anybody can be helped by relying on PF

Don`t underestimate the power of PF and its members!!!
Wasn`t it you who looked for help from Rich on this forum???????????

was me asking Rich for help, in getting trough the sleeples night, by ocupying my restles mind,

How about praying to God/Goddess, instead of atheist Rich????

believing in the Higher Power

Has it ever come to your mind that God aka Goddess sends all those ordeals on you to turn you into a decent person?? He/She sees the potential in you but you constantly reject the invitation coz you are so blind.

Alien
30 Nov 2024  #757

question? Please answer I would appreciate your answer

I just wanted to know if you have depression or suicidal thoughts? If so, you need professional help, not PF. You don't have to answer.

Przelotnyptak1
30 Nov 2024  #758

If so, you need professional help, not PF. You don't have to answer.

This is getting out of hand; give me a break; sadness is a natural feeling after losing a loving spouse; where the hell is the suicide coming from?
So, to answer your question, no depression, just sadness. As for professional help, I provided a definite answer in the previous post.The thought had never entered my mind.

Przelotnyptak1
30 Nov 2024  #759

Wasn`t it you who looked for help from Rich on this forum???????????

Definitely, to help me pass the sleepless night, But I already posted the information. Please do not ask that same question repeatedly

pawian
30 Nov 2024  #760

to help me pass the sleepless night

I have had a lot of sleepless nights in my life, also quite recently, but I never asked anybody for help coz it is my private issue which I must deal with on my own.
Yours search in the forum for Rich remedy was a sign of utter desperation which clearly showed you are clueless in life. Pray to relieve your despair.

Przelotnyptak1
30 Nov 2024  #761

Has it ever come to your mind that God aka Goddess sends all those ordeals

No one knows God's reasons, but you. Sounds blasphemous to any sound-of-mind believer.

pawian
30 Nov 2024  #762

Sounds blasphemous

Not so fast. A few weeks ago I told you that I am only a tool in God`s/Godess`s hands in turning you into a decent person.

No one knows God's reasons, but you

Yes, because I am an Old Soul who knows the intricacies of human fate. Discard your disbelief and you will feel relieved at last.

Przelotnyptak1
1 Dec 2024  #763

Yours search in the forum for Rich remedy was a sign of utter desperation which clearly showed you are clueless in life. Pray to relieve your despair.

What search ? I turned the computer on, and Rich was available. See Pawian in your estimate all others but you are clueless. So what is new,you even know what I think way, way better than me.

pawian
1 Dec 2024  #764

know what I think way, way better than me.

Exactly.

I turned the computer on, and Rich was available.

:):):)

Joker
1 Dec 2024  #765

hands in turning you into a decent person.

Thats impossible as you are rotten to the core.

Remember, youre the one that claims to spat on ppl in the name of decency. The irony! I dont believe a word you say bc you would get your leftard dupa kicked all over Poland.

Its Saturday night, how come youre not watching your animal p0rn movies?

Przelotnyptak1
1 Dec 2024  #766

Not so fast. A few weeks ago I told you that I am only a tool in God`s/Godess`s hands in turning you into a decent person.

So what is the meaning of the above post? Please do not drown me in the meaningless word salad.

pawian
1 Dec 2024  #767

youre the one that claims

Me??? Of course not. I am only a tool. Blame Goddess for that! She uses me to educate you. Simple.

p0rn movies?

Sorry, I don`t follow your hobby. :):):)

Bobko
1 Dec 2024  #768

So, to answer your question, no depression, just sadness.

If Greek mythology has taught me anything, it is that besides Achilles' divine horses Xanthos and Balios, no animal has the same capacity as humans to experience suffering.

It is our unique burden, and at the same time our special gift.

Further - Aeschylus, said: "Even in our sleep, pain that cannot forget, falls drop by drop upon the heart, and in our own despair, against our will, comes wisdom to us by the awful grace of God."

Now to abstract away from the Greeks, Krishna told Arjuna: "That which is like poison at first, but in the end, like nectar-this pleasure, born of the clarity of one's own mind, is said to be of the nature of sattva."

Depression is one thing, and sadness is entirely another. I agree with Ptak.

Suffering cleanses - but maybe only we Russians can understand this :)

Przelotnyptak1
1 Dec 2024  #769

Discard your disbelief and you will feel relieved at last.

You, getting lost would be a release to every poster on the PF

pawian
1 Dec 2024  #770

would be a release to every poster

Can you prove it as a fact or is it your private opinion???????????? ):)):):):)

I see I have sown the seed of doubt in you. Think it over. Take your time.

Przelotnyptak1
1 Dec 2024  #771

That which is like poison at first, but in the end, like nectar-this pleasure, born of the clarity of one's own mind, is said to be of the nature of sattva."

How insightful. Making Greek mythology more digestible loosely translates to: what does not kill me makes me stronger. Some of us will not get it in the life time
I owned you one

Bobko
1 Dec 2024  #772

what does not kill me makes me stronger

Yes, on one level, but also what the Greeks make clear is that suffering is a special human privilege.

In different stories, there are instances where the gods become angry at some animal for displaying human-like sadness - and as punishment strike them dumb.

Understand - they are not compassionate towards the animals. They are not trying necessarily to rid them of pain. They are ANGRY at the animals that they dare experience human-level pain.

It is reserved only for us.

This makes it seem like more a gift, than a punishment.

Novichok
1 Dec 2024  #773

Some things are axiomatic and don't require proof.

About sadness...

What is the chemistry of sadness?

The monoamine-deficiency theory posits that the underlying pathophysiological basis of depression is a depletion of the neurotransmitters serotonin, norepinephrine or dopamine in the central nervous system.


My case was bad enough for my wife to tell me to get Sertraline. My sadness about her condition was making her feel worse.

Now we both are OK. Thanks, Big Pharma...

Przelotnyptak1
1 Dec 2024  #774

Can you prove it as a fact or is it your private opinion???????????? ):)):):):)

Sorry Pawian , I temporarily forgot.Kieleckie connections My bad. Are you satisfied now?

Bobko
1 Dec 2024  #775

What is the chemistry of sadness?

Again - as Ptak said, sadness is not depression.

If you go running for pills anytime you feel sad... well - I don't what to say.

You describe more a clinical condition.

Novichok
1 Dec 2024  #776

Hey, Ptak, tell this POS to get lost, put him on your ignore list and join the rest of us...

Przelotnyptak1
1 Dec 2024  #777

This makes it seem like more a gift, than a punishment.

It cleanses one's soul, there is no question about it.

Bobko
1 Dec 2024  #778

It cleanses one's soul, there is no question about it.

I hate to be the atheist teaching people scripture, but Paul wrote to the Romans:

"And not only so, but we glory in tribulations also: knowing that tribulation worketh patience;

And patience, experience; and experience, hope."

Paul's a pretty important guy.

Then there's this other guy, Job, who God absolutely wrecked. Very much just for fun, because he was bored. Basically he sh*t on Job.

What did Job say?

"Though he slay me, yet will I trust in him: but I will maintain mine own ways before him."

Maybe this kinda "loserdom" and "Debbie downerism" is too "depressing" for average Americans to appreciate, who expect non-stop happiness... but this is wisdom 2,000+ years old.

Novichok
1 Dec 2024  #779

You describe more a clinical condition.

Sadness has many parts. There is also the old-age depression that is not caused by individual events.

I have solved this problem by pumping iron, arguing, and being pissed about people I don't like.

From my pov, anger is a lot better than sadness - if those are the only choices. It's the difference between fight and flight.

When I see that I am getting too mellow, I watch YouTube videos that have "Entitled Karen" in the title and in no time I am back to my normal, healthy self. I hate those stupid bit*ches...

Also...I don't drink...booze makes me weak and stupid happy...I will be speaking at a local college soon with this as one of the subjects.

I hate to be the atheist teaching people scripture,

It's a common combination...an atheist who follows the Ten Commandments.

Bobko
1 Dec 2024  #780

I will be speaking at a local college soon with this as one of the subjects.

Very nice.

You know I read your book, and I'm sorry I didn't respond yet with feedback. It's just that... I don't think I've ever read anything like that before, or spoken with anyone like you either.

In a good sense (and I mean it sincerely), the book is crazy.

One day; I'll write you up a good critique. Just not up to it yet.

Knock em stiff at the lecture!

It's a common combination...an atheist who follows the Ten Commandments.

Weird, right?


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