IF EU let refugees to Europe

You want to make belittling remarks to minimize my great country I thought it only fair that you tell us what good deeds your country has done.

Being you are embarrassed to tell us what country you are from answers my question......


Hence stopping the refugee problem from Syria.
The United States Muslim President will be out of office January 2017 at which time our new President will build the United States Military back up like never before and hopefully will waste no time in answering your prayer Polsyr. It's inevitable.

Remember Lukashenko in Belarus got 99% of the vote and Kim in Korea gets something similar. You have a touching faith in the veracity of Syrian elections.


The junta rule the country. As I've told you before, Bashar Hafez is their puppet.


Stable in the sense that freedom of speech, the democratic process and there right to free assembly were brutally suppressed. Stable? No, A reign of terror? Yes.


Better perhaps than yourself. Because of the work I do and the place I am right now, I see people from the region daily (though sadly few than before for reasons to do with the crisis). I have only ever met one Syrian over the years who praised the regime and he was part of it.


This in itself suggests that 'your friend' was perhaps untypical.

And meanwhile, the county's citizens are risking life and limb to make a long and deeply unpleasant journey to freedom, leaving everything behind (assuming their houses are still standing). Hundreds of thousands of them, and many more in refugee camps elsewhere. One reason why the humanitarian crisis is so urgent and good that the EU (especially Germany) is not ignoring it.

Now time to think how Poland can do the decent thing.

@JR the world needs leaders with balls. Not just talk and diplomacy and beating around the bush. We have all seen where talks and diplomacy have taken us. A few more months of "diplomacy" and there will be nothing left in Syria to save - no people and no cultural heritage and no history.

Don't be silly. They fled Syria.


Actually, they are.


Wouldn't you be?

On the tape, Mr. Juncker says he has "had to lie" and, speaking about touchy economic topics, "When it becomes serious, you have to lie."

And this man is the president of the EU

You're a Christian now?


What's the difference between a "fascist" and "normal" Muslim?

Largely yes, though Sky do put a sensationalist spin. Unlike that nutty 'breitbart' thing which exists to lie to the paranoid.


Also reliable. Perhaps you'd prefer Nasz Dziennik or Alex Jones? Next you'll be quoting from the awful Exaro.


What's that got to do with the humanitarian crisis? You do realise that the thing with Juncker was 4 years ago and concerned the Greek debt crisis? Or maybe not.

It already does. In many country nominal "Christians" don't really follow the religion in any meaningful way....

nb. I'm not a Christian

Once a liar always a liar. If he will lie about the economy, he will lie about the reasons for this migration. As the man said "when its serious, you have to lie"

I agree. All polticians lie, a lot. But that's no reason to not nail their hides to the wall when they're caught at it/admit it.

Of course. Do you know any truthful politicians?

In related news, Latvia and Estonia say NO to forced EU quotas:

baltic-course.com/eng/legislation/?doc=106034

I only know that a couple of weeks ago, Junker said, it was 40,000 migrants, yesterday, at the state of the union, it was 160,000. What is it going to be next month? 1 million? And please do not say it does not matter, "the more the merrier". A lot of people are not very "merry" about this.

I worry about security. Since 911, travelling on a plane has been a nightmare. But airport security is in place to protect us. Now we are letting in people from a region that we know wish us harm, without any checks being made. I think this is very stupid.

Of course - the numbers coming are growing nicely.


In a few months hopefully. An instant solution to Europe's falling population.


Why not?


A lot of people are rarely 'merry' about much. Their loss.


A strange definition of a 'nightmare'. Some of us fly several times a month and don't have a 'nightmare' at all.

How come I can't find any information about Syrian and Iraqi Christian refugees !!!! I am thinking of chaldean-catholics who are with a full communion with a roman catholic church and other christian denominations. Nobody talks about them !!! Let me remind you they are the ones who are being severely persecuted by muslims and isis.

Christians refugees would not have any problem to integrate into society in the country they end up. Why EU doesn't talk about them?!I

its a mind boggling !!!

Quite the opposite, they are proven not telling the truth. Can you remind us the news website you gave the link once also claiming it to be respected news website, I looked around this site and it was quite funny but I forgot the name

There's plenty of information out there, however you're over-optimistic about integration. Unless you were from that part of the world, you wouldn't notice much difference between them and their non-Christian neighbour.

If anyone remembers back in February of this year one of the British Town Criers had an article from ISIS.
This article foretold ISIS threats to send a wave of refugees into Europe and hide terrorists among them.
(I forgot which one it was in now but it was February 17th or 18th.)
Now we have Islamic sympathy overriding national security.


Not only read it but have studied the interpretations of many verses delph. I won't force you to lie and ask you the same question.

That is no threat delph, that is a choice of your free will. Jesus Christ said that the only way to heaven is through Him.

Only by the grace of God will you be allowed in and all others will be cast into the Lake of fire.
How about the verse where is says it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle......
Amazing how you interpreted that free will choice as a threat.

very good question. Must be that EU don`t care for Christians, neither of the incoming, neither of those that are already in EU

I know this starts to enter the world of crackpot conspiracy theorists but I've also noticed that not a single TV media channel has commented on the ridiculous ratio of men to women on these boats. It is blindingly obvious and yet isn't commented upon or discussed.

It's not a crackpot conspiracy as it is a FACT.
I heard on the news the reason for all the men was because once they are legally registered and settled they can then bring their families into that country legally also. These men must have left their wife/wives and children in a safe place until such time or they would not have left them.

The economic refugees are well fed with new cloths, the look alone on the dirty faces of the war torn legitimate Syrian refugees is quite a different story as both husband and wife are carrying their children.

It is so obvious who deserves the help and who deserves to be sent back where they came from.

This is what David Miliband, a Jewish Brit, had to say about the situation. What do you think?

The Syrian refugee crisis is not just a humanitarian catastrophe - it's also a staggering political challenge. Europe is struggling to find a way to absorb the hundreds of thousands of desperate people who have arrived on its borders in recent months, but with the exception of Germany, most EU nations have been reluctant at best, and openly hostile at worst. And although the United States runs the world's largest refugee resettlement program, it was not until Thursday that the US finally announced it would resettle anywhere near a substantial number of Syria's 4 million refugees, and even then only 10,000.

I'm not embarrassed. I'm not responsible for my country's government mistakes. As you're not responsible for your own country's government mistakes. But you defend them. That's the problem.


The main problem that have been debated (by foreign NGOs) was the fact that these elections took place during a civil war. Nothing about a hypothetic massive fraud. I have no particular 'faith'. I'm only saying this is not the priority. We'll talk about (Western) democracy in Syria later. There are more important things to do, especially when we have groups of violent islamists trying to control the country. Next to Libya, another country where we brought freedom and democracy.


Jon, you need to know a little more about the history of the country and the whole region before you start making projections of your own vision of a perfect Syrian society. The democratic process you're refering to didn't appear out of nowhere in our Western societies. It took a lot of time, and the fact that it happened in (historically) Christian countries is probably no coincidence.

To me, forcing our democracy ideals to non-Christian countries is a bit naive.
Anyway, as I said earlier, the governments who make wars in the name of democracy are hypocrites, most of the time. Democracy is just an excuse. Real reasons are less idealistic and much more political.


You're in Saudi Arabia, right? That's where my Syrian friend lives now too. I'm not sure she would compare life there with life in pre-civil war Syria tho.


Syrian citizens are fleeing the civil war, not the regime. The regime was there before.
I found Merkel and Germany's position on the refugee crisis quite hypocritical. German leaders and employers have vital (I mean economic) interests in taking lots of refugees. Germany's demographic trend is not good, this is no secret. So this has little to do with charity.

As to Poland, I have no idea of Poland's capacities to welcome so many people.
And let's face it, migrants don't want to go to Poland. They'd rather go to Germany, Britain, or Scandinavia.

My personal view is that only genuine Syrians should be helped, the ones accompanied by wives/children. Then after careful vetting, any single men/children. Any non-Syrian to be returned, especially if from those countries which are deemed safe.

Refugees that are accepted should be warned in advance that choices of country are not available and that asylum is temporary until/when their own country is safe to return.

If Mods allow that Breitman link then they should allow this in response right?

And it is heartfelt and real, because why are we all here anyway? As said before, this refugee crises can teach us all a new humility.

theguardian.com/world/video/2015/sep/11/help-is-coming-benedict-cumberbatch-crowded-house-refugees-video

I agree, how do we tell honest hard working people from the ones who want to blow up and destroy innocent people in the name of Islam. And America thinks they are helping out but taking 10,000 refugees, that's not even a drop in the bucket. And I ask the question why the refugees are headed for all of the richer countries in Europe and not of the poorer ones that might take them in, like Serbia or Albania?

So you are ashamed to tell us what country you are from then ?


But Avalon, that is common sense and we know government does not have common sense.
I agree with you 100% however.

Yep pinhead your government was and is still bombing so you are welcome to your refugees. You can take the rest also from the other countries you are bombing. Good luck.

No. Not Saudi Arabia.

I think that you're very light on the horrors of the regime in Syria - there have long been people fleeing it when they can. Most people do preferred their own home though, as long as that home is still standing and in Syria there is devastation now. Also, do t confuse democracy, however flawed, with Arab consensus rule.

Also. Looking for ulterior motoves is pointless - there aren't any, economic or otherwise, although Europe dies have a falling population and we do need more people. This is a co-incidence rather than any sort of strategy.



Spot on. It must be awful to live with the constant fear that they have, the lack of self-esteem and the constant feeling of inadequacy that makes them obsess about melatonin.


Most educated people have a more practical approach to the humanitarian crisis than the anti-immi racists so yes, I think there'll be a good turnout.


Had to be said, had to be said!

We are well aware of this. Cultural-Marxism has infested almost all areas of western education.


We already went over the fact that race is more than melanin. Stop repeating this fallacy. What it comes down to is self preservation. Every group has the right to preserve it's people and culture. Flooding Europe with massive numbers of non-Europeans is a major threat to Europeans and their way of life. In fact, one way the UN defines genocide is: "Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part."