IF EU let refugees to Europe

Yes, and there's nothing you can do about it.


Can you explain your interest as an American in what happens in Europe?

Wouldn't that make you an ignorant and closed minded person, since you refuse to hear any opposing and enlightening viewpoints?


Genocide doesn't have to be physical extermination. How come when the Tibetans were threatened with massive Chinese immigration it was called genocide? There are parts of London were the native Brits are a tiny minority.

You mean viewpoints you support?


Give it a generation. Anyone born somewhere is a native.

It must be very stressful for you to be so afraid of change, especially in places (China, Europe) that you don't have any connection with. One thing today is very heartwarming, the number of people turning out for the Day of Support for the Syrian refugees.

Better as in much more crime and Sharia Law possibly being implemented in places like London and Paris? The most ironic part is that if the Muslims do take control you liberals would not be tolerated one bit and would be the first ones they would go after.

Blame yourself and your libatard friends that support abortion. Ya can't have it both ways genius.


It's pitiful alright, only not in the sense you are referring to.


It's not an inadequacy jon, it's a fact, most non white people (75%) fill up our prisons.
The Polish people understand this and this is why the majority of them don't want these undesirables invading their country.


And with ghetto's comes low education, drugs, prostitution, gangs, guns and violence. WAIT AND SEE.


jon is not white and wants to infiltrate Poland with his brothers.

Well done Turkey and Germany for taking 800,000.

Saudi Arabia appear to be stoking a fire.
Saudi Arabia offers Germany 200 mosques - one for every 100 refugees who arrived last weekend


independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/saudi-arabia-offers-germany-200-mosques--one-for-every-100-refugees-who-arrived-last-weekend-10495082.html

Ireland have accepted only 4,000 Syrian refugees but this was only after Over 6,000 people pledge to home refugees as humanitarian crisis worsens.
thejournal.ie/pledge-a-bed-uplift-campaign-2310752-Sep2015/

I think countries shouldn't have to take in refugees but should be named and shamed for turning their backs on people in desperation.

The real reason I am positive about not only taking in but looking after refugees boils down to one thing, "what if it were to happen to you?".

Somewhat less heart-warming is the behaviour of many refugees, and this is only the beginning. Even at this relatively early stage of the refugee/migrant invasion it has become evident that many newcomers have high self-serving demands and know the ropes well in advance. Such how-to knowledge spreads like wildfire across refugee communities. GW reports that refugees do not want to register in Sweden and insist on getting to Norway or Finland where it is easier to get reisdent status. The paper also cited an incident on one of the ferries where a group of refuees threatened to jump overboard rather than be forced to stay in Sweden.

This is but a tiny fragment of the headaches the exodus is causing, but no-one is more jeopardised by it all than Germany - most refugees' destination of preference. Affluent Germany was able to absorb the former GDR, but will it be able to cope with the refugee invasion?

wyborcza.pl/1,75477,18796140,setki-uchodzcow-przyplywaja-promami-do-szwecji-omijajac-danie.html#ixzz3lXY1zA7h

And somehow I don't see your crowd caring too much about those people in Turkey or Lebanon. Instead of taking 1 healthy 20 something "refugee" with a smartphone and often a few grands in cash, EU could feed 10-15 real refugees in those countries.

Plenty of refugees in both already thanks.


So what. Nothing special about a phone and if you had to flee for your life, you'd take your savings.

Yes and once leaving a safe country like Turkey, they are not refugees anymore.


Are Turks trying to kill them ?


They are displaced by war from Syria to Turkey, Lebanon or Jordan. There's no war anymore over there. Then some of them after some time (it took 3 years in case of that kid's family) - those rich enough to pay the smugglers, illegally cross European borders looking for "better life". The poor that really need help are left alone and few cares about them. These are facts no matter how hard you try to spin it. They are illegal economic immigrants.

Grzegorz, He knows he has no argument and is just grasping at straws.

Only the airmchair leftists amd sofa revolutionaries -- eggheads who never had to actually live under communism.

No harm in that at all.


Now didn't you do that yourself?


It isn't an argument. It is a simple fact. People from a war zone have come to Europe and will stay here. No matter how much you dislike that.

Sure there is. They commit quite serious crime. What would happen If crowds of Poles or Ukrainians were illegally crossing the borders of Canada, Australia, Japan or Israel while "looking for better life" ?

Crossing borders in clear violation of international and national laws is a crime which is wrong. Passing yourself off as Syrian when you're from Pakistan or Afghanistan etc is wrong. Immigrating to suck at the welfare teat of Europe is very much doing harm.


The great majority of fake Syrians (again at least 50 per cent) are not coming from war zones. Should they be allowed to stay? Why?

I've been waiting and you basically have no arguments or facts on your side (though the media is clearly on your side). Anyone raising practical questions is ignored or waved away.

Are they?


So arrest them.

Vast majority of them criminals will be booted out, If you like it or not.

So you support Hungarian attempts to establish some kind of control over who enters Schengen! Good!

If you mean the Syrian War Refugees, the important thing is to get them settled, mostly in Germany.

Why would I be ashamed? I didn't make or support any war. Well, that's not exactly true. I was abused by our propaganda and sort of supported the intervention in Libya, which I now deeply regret.


Even if you were right, I still believe the priority is to make sure that Syria doesn't become another Libya, which would be even worse for Syrians, the region, and probably for Europe too. Middle East needs stability, which is terribly lacking now. Only then we can talk about democracy in that part of the world.


Arabs are Arabs. They're not European or American. There's nothing you and I can do about it.


I wish I could be as certain as you are.

Stop believing everything you see on TV, they lie. Do you still believe Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction?


European aka Europid or White is a race, used to describe the indigenous people of Europe. It's a genetic construct. The blackest person on your street is no more a horse than a dog who lives in a barn.

it is a construct, yes.

Wait, not sure if serious. But their culture is more suited to Europe? You're kidding us right?

Oh dear, oh dear...

Only the Russians would try and claim such a thing. We're on PolishForums. Here's a hint - pro-Russian viewpoints aren't tolerated here.

But anyway, Syria's oppression and human rights abuses are well documented. Perhaps you'd like to tell us what actually happened here? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghouta_chemical_attack

Yes they are. But is this really a good reason to let in hundreds of thousands of people with no vetting whatsoever? Especially since by first hand accounts the overwhelming probability is that well over half of them are not Syrian?

I understand that life in Afghanistan and Iraq and Pakistan and Bangladesh sucks, but it mostly sucks because of the values of the people living there, colonialism and recent military interventions notwithstanding.

Absolutely not. I liked the Clinton idea of setting up camps in North Africa and vetting people there, with accepted refugees getting safe and civilised transport onwards. Otherwise, the Dublin convention should be respected.

I'm very much centrist on this - I believe we should help people, but only those that are genuinely refugees. I'd go so far as saying that I'm not certain that we should take any men aged between 16-40. The current situation is diabolical and Germany has really, really made a mess of things.

As for people from sucky places, well, that's their job to make life better for themselves. I don't see any reason to accept them here.

hey..
dont know if already posted .some news about this Abdullah Kurdi,whose sons drowned on way to Greece. it seems he was a smuggler..i read today,his cousins children s drowned as well and she got 6k money for smuggling, returned from him..

tho most of media are quiet about him.and he was suppose to be poor war victim..yet again Libtards and Leftist making a clowns of themselves.

dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3232251/Aylan-father-s-REAL-story-Abdullah-Kurdi-forced-deny-smuggler-new-questions-emerge-picture-shook-world.html

That link you posted contains nothing but a detailed description of what he actually did in Turkey. It mentions the allegations, but there's no proof.

Not sure why you're using terms like "libtards" when you can't even provide proof of what you're saying.

more in "the sun" .i just had breakfast in cafe and read it there.
what proof?his own cusins accuse him of smuggling..he didnt even want to give them money back ,even after their children died....then he demanded half for himself..lol. scumbag not a victim...peoples who he smuggled were victims.

Gregy sadly there are scumbags everywhere , and they will abuse any system.