US senators to probe Soros' use of his fortune to sway US foreign policy

So evidently you don't prefer a secular liberal democracy, despite enjoying the freedom of living in one and having all the benefits of coming from one...

There s no point in discussing this much further. Idc about his pro lgbt pro migrant stances. Some of those people really need help whether its aids treatment support bc of abuse etc. However that's not their goal to help people. His groups don't focus on the sick, abused, etc but rather on spreading his political system. Soros and all his groups exist for the primary purpose of spreading his version of democracy or open society as he calls it, while of course making billions along the way. While an open society has its pros and cons, Soros doesn't care if the majority of a citizens in a country are happy with the status quo - usually already a democracy just not the type of democracy he wants. He has no respect for other peoples opinions nor sovereignty. He cares not if people are already happy. He says it himself - its a game that he plays, he says its fun watching his groups cause mayhem and in then process ruining peoples lives or even getting people killed. All the while he shorts currency basically plundering the life savings of the average Joe and Mary without remorse. He doesn't care how Joe and Mary will feed their kids now that food is 10x as much. That sounds rather psychotic if you ask me or at the very least megalomaniacal. If these were countries with tin pot dictatorships that hes attempting to depose I could maybe understand but most these countries he attacks already have some form of democracy. They're not perfect but there's countries in Asia Africa and Latin America that have far more human rights problems than say Hungary Ukraine or poland.

His actions seen to resembke a subversive politician planning coups, crisis etc more than a philanthropist.

I think Soros has the honor of being the first philanthropist who's 'charity' resulted in civil war, thousands dead, millions migrating due to poverty or because their home was destroyed, causing currency crisis leaving mothers unable to feed children. All in the name of promoting an open society... So is it worth it? How many dead are acceptable for Soros to create his utopian vision. For Stalin it was 50% of the ussr population. Actually there's quite a bit of parallels between Stalin and Soros. Both tried to drastically change the status quo from the top and bottom and look what happened.

There are few benefits of that partcular formation which favours decadence, sexual minorities, outsiders, assorted misfits, intrusive immigrants and the kind of radical leftist whackos now battling police in Hamburg. The conservative democracy based on family values, one's own cultural identity and belief in God, as outlined in Trump's credo in Warsaw, is a far better alternative for normal people who greatly outnumber the leftist weirdos!

@Polonius3

Youd be surprised by how many left leaning people there are. Most of them are decent people Its only a few are on the far left that are violent, shut down lucid debate, assault people, etc although that number increases everyday especially among young college kids. Perhaps they don't want to work for tuition like i had to. Far easier to complain and protest. Personally I think leftist politicians tend to be more caring about society at large while right politicians tend to be much better at growing the economy and not overspending. Pros and cons like with everything.

I was laughing when this one guy complained about the German education and called for revolution. The reporter asked why he was upset. He said that the German schools education system is meant to create workers ans not thinkers!

If we had a society of people who just sat around thinking all day but doing nothing wed be in big trouble. That's the problem much of these young kids don't want to work. Nor do they want to take responsibility for their own actions. That's why they protest about college tuition because they don't want to work to pay for it. Much easier to 'think,' go to a few protests, smoke some pot etc than balancing school and a job to pay for it.

Of course.

Lol, yes they care - my goodness you're naïve. They care like as long as you walk the line, if you veer a minuscule, you're done - enemy of the people. Lefties ideologies are by definition totalitarian , Hitler , Stalin, Castro. Pol-Pot, all the same murdering totalitarian scum. French revolution the same.

Sure there some naïve useful droits who buy their slogans but leftie ideology is evil. There some seriously disturbed people with the ego big as the ocean who think they would get it right, Lenin was an idiot and flailed but I will do it right.

should be shot on the spot. That ideology is at fault.

By society I meant societal programs - health clinics, homeless shelters, treatment centers for alcoholics...

Only problem is dems blow through money for these programs faster than it can be printed. Yes they do help the lowest rung of society but of course someone has to pay for it.

I'm a conservative and no I don't subscribe to leftist ideology. Nonetheless i learn about it research it read books like the manifesto, green book, etc to gain a better understanding of someone else's views.

Actually gaddafi was one of the few people who got socialism right for the most part. Free education free health free housing - yes housing was considered a human right, ridiculously cheap electricity water and gas, 50k USD free from the government upon marriage, and tons of other stuff....

Too bad that in such a short period Libya went from a stable prosperous country with little income inequality to a war town militia and human trafficker run fiefdom.

There s pros and cons if every ideology. While I think Marxism Leninism is useful in certain ways for example to mobilize society after a devastating war to help rebuild the losing country it is nonetheless an extremely authoritarian system which places little to no value on the individual and severely limits freedom especially free speech. Leftists tend to be internstionalists and love the state more than anything. I have too much love for poland, my religion my family my freedoms and all the work I've done to make something of my life for all that to be taken away my stuff redistributed and my family country and god to be replaced by the state and it's ruler.

That is the legend they try to project -- in reality many are losers and misfits who subconsciously envy those living normal, decent, productive lives, raising families and fulfilling their aspirations. All utopianists have one major flaw: even though since the dawn of time all systems that run counter to human nature and the basic laws of economics have failed, they somehow think that this time it'll be different. That they have struck on precisely the right formula and won't be happy until they force it down everyone's throat. That includes their PC obsession of creaitng new taboos and buzzwords which everyone must accept, or else! That also includes their effective rejection of democracy favouring abnormal, unnatural, off-the-wall minorities at the expense of normal society and espousing Orwellian-style equality, where everone is equal but some (those the PC gang favours) are more equal than others. Nearly all revolutions have failed. One of the few exceptions was the American Revolution, and that was because it did not try to set everything on its head. It was in support of self-determination and in defence of one's own unique national spirit -- precisely what Trump focused on in his Warsaw speech.

Indeed, Hitler is credited with giving mankind the VW and Autobahns.

For some, certainly. For those who supported him.


Unfortunately he was a conservative nationalist, with all the evil that entails.

Sounds like Soros. One never hears him donating to Catholic charities, cancer research or oher causes that do not promote his sinister leftist attack on mankind. Major beniificiaries are compliant NGOs that for all the money they get eagerly agree to spread his venomous propaganda far and widew.

Yea he doesn't care much for medical causes. He's far more interested in politics media and finance.

I wonder who he'll hit next now since he's cashed in his ukranian chips. He likes a challenge and I think it'll be u.s. because of trump and his huge network here. Although i wouldn't discard eastern Europe. Actually there posters of Soros in Hungary that read 'lets not let George Soros have the last laugh.' funny because his camp calls them antisemitic lol. Yet Soros actually cares little for Israel and he says he doesn't support it because according to him when asked in an interview "there's enough Jews helping israel" with a chuckle. Hmm if a goy said those exact same words they'd surely be construed as antisemitic. But he doesn't agree with much of the zionist policies which I commend him for. He's certainly a genius though and def megomaniacal - being able to control all these moving levers all around the world holy crap

No bad thing, especially with the current threat from conservative nationalism.

Why do you see it so black and white? No that's just one of the many types of ideologies resisting his agendas. If fact its just a minor thorn in his side he has far larger aspirations than outwitting a couple of far right ppl. He's not fighting just nationalists he's about over turning entire societies from little kids who don't even know yet what a nationalist communist etc is to old pensioners who have survived wars and seen it all and everyone in between. His agendas and policies affect nearly everyone in the societies he seeks to overturn. If you are an average worker buying food to feed yourself and your family you will be affected by a currency collapse civil war civil unrest etc. The club, as Soros and his managers traders brokers and other henchmen are known, profit from such instability both financially and politically.

One to fight at all cost.

Also the body count from 'conservative nationalists' to radical Islam isn't even in the same ballpark. There may be some loons that go on mass shootings. Have thousands been murdered last month by whit nationalists? Of course not. However thousands have been murdered this past June by Islamic terrorists - 1176 to be exact. Most occurring in Iraq afghanistan africa etc but there are nonetheless regular large scale attacks and unrest in europe.

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@jon357

So you're saying any ideology, any agendas that aren't the same as soros' are wrong and should be fought at all costs?

Looks like you deliberately misunderstood. The statement, about which ideology is evil and must be fought is quite clear.

I did not misunserstand on purpose. How you'd even get to that conclusion?

I stated that it is not just far right nationalist types but other ideologies who oppose soros' agenda. To which you quoted 'ideologies' and wrote 'one to fight at all costs.' so now I wish to clarify are these ideology/ies you wish to fight at all costs, are they limited to only a far right nationalist ideology than or any other or all ideologies that differ from that of Soros?

The statement is clear. Currently Europe faces a threat from conservative nationalism. We see this in Poland, in Hungary and elsewhere. Any initiatives that resist this are to be welcomed.

I understand you now. So basically you're saying that conservative nationalism is to be stopped at all costs.

What if that is the will of the people though? Through a democratic voting process in the us as well as central and eastern europe, people chose politicians who share similar ideologies of securing borders, asserting sovereignty, and putting their citizens interests first. They also spoke against accepting migrants. What if people want to remain loyal to tradition, culture and their country? Are these huge chunks of society the enemy because they share some of the viewpoints ascribed to conservative nationalism?

Again don't think I'm trying to offend you or something i just want to pick your brain to understand someone else's viewpoint

The Soros Foundation does immense good in the world, especially in the field of education and promoting democracy. They had a very positive effect in Poland, after the wall came down, and long may they continue in their good works.

Not everyone does, and those who do fund their own projects.

Finally a touch o normality. But it is developi ng in Poland thanks to PiS amid the slime, mud and crud left behind by the Tuskitescamstersm libtards and lefties. On TV news tonight they showed a baby that had a brain tumour diagnosed while still in its mother's womb and the birth had to be artificially accelerated. Several chemo sessions have failed to effect a lasting cure, and now the only hope is a therapy costing 100,000 zł. In Poland alone, there are numerous such cases where the only barrier is cash. They exist all over, for instance in Hungary. But Soros preferred to sponsor an anarcho-leftist outpost posing as a university in his native land to spread his venomous propaganda amongst unsuspecting young Hunagrians. If he were a true philanthropist, he wouldl bankroll truly humanitarian projects, not counter-culture political schemes.

It is indeed -- liberal-leftist scamsterism, neo-Trotzkyism, the LGBT agenda and other tendencies out to subvert society and stand everything on its head. We've already had a taste of that for 8 years and it's no wonder the Polish nation rejected more of the same at the polls in 2015. The real Poland is the way President Trump depicted this country -- a people of invincible spirit who know what to defend and are a glowing example other countries would do well to emulate.

Quite not.


Unless democracy chooses conservative values.

You've just aptly described the current regimes in Hungary, Poland and elsewhere that fear the Open Democracy project so much.

Quite not, he rather described what happened on the streets of Hamburg last night.

No. Not at all.