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Serbia etc. thread 2



Crow
19 Mar 2021  #691

What are you mumbling now. Say it nicely

Miloslaw
19 Mar 2021  #692

@Crow

You cannot dismis the fact that Serbs comitted some absolutely atrocious war crimes during the Yugoslav Civil War.
Probably the worst of all the former Yugoslav states......man, you are living in denial.....sad to see....

mafketis
20 Mar 2021  #693

Serbs comitted some absolutely atrocious war crimes during the Yugoslav Civil War.

He believes the Serbian political line that the atrocities happened, but the Serbs were always the victims... (which is what Serbian media was telling that gullible and infantile nation).

I've spoken to a number of former Yugoslavs who are pretty consistent in what they say - they had no problem with being in Jugoslavija but they wanted no part of Milosevic's Greater Serbia... and that's what tore the country apart, one region wanting to utterly dominate the rest.

Crow
20 Mar 2021  #694

Wrong, wrong. Germany wanted to dominate and the Vatican, too. Turkey, Islamic league too. The USA led by mad Bill Clinton followed as their support. So they moved onto Serbs and sunk.

Then came Russia and China and Serbs were not alone anymore. Rest is the history of the fall of the so-called west and Islamic extremists.

Serbs - the last bearers of the noble Sarmatian name. Serbs prevailed.

Now, what was Yugoslavia dream and talk only of the Serbian world.

Strzelec35
20 Mar 2021  #695

Serbia is really the eay europe should be or the old europe the way it was.

Crow
20 Mar 2021  #696

I am only glad Serbs are not vulgar in their feelings and do know tolerance. Western Europeans only have big mouths but essentially don`t have loyalty.

Strzelec35
20 Mar 2021  #697

even to one another.

mafketis
20 Mar 2021  #698

Serbs prevailed.

Turning one country into six.... I guess that helps during Eurovision, but I fail to perceive any other benefit....

what was Yugoslavia dream

For diverse ethnic groups (with very similar languages) to live in the same country without killing each other for the benefit at all.... which, as it turns out, is not what Serbs wanted.

Strzelec35
20 Mar 2021  #699

hey mafkeis, remember that bullshit you wrote yesterday about your vision or guide to age difference for sex? In American or western culture people have what you call trophy wives or the younger the biaaach the more power the man is seen as having or more admired he is by his upper class peers. look at Polanski and his history of wives or girlfriends. do you get it?

Crow
20 Mar 2021  #700

True. Rats.

mafketis
20 Mar 2021  #701

Many rich and powerful men are not mentally well. Money and power do not necessarily coincide with mental health or appropriate sexual development.

Polanski is obviously a extremely disturbed personality... the idea that you see him as some kind of sexual role model is alarming.

Cut your age in half, add seven years.... what does a 13 year old have that a woman that age doesn't?

What does pursuing inappropriate goals give you that pursuing age appropriate goals doesn't?

Your current goals make you a despised outcast... is that what you want?

Strzelec35
20 Mar 2021  #702

why dont you that to the big hots who hang out with the cheap hos or young braids at Santana row in San Jose or buy them food and dri ks while they just stand there near the entrance or in Warsaw in places like hala koszykow who act like ******* if ur not part of their class or the upper class and dress in a fancy suit then? why dont you go there and tell them they look like cheap ****** and are garbage trying too hard then? they obviously dont care if they're outcasts do they trying to land rich men there and act like bittches to everyone else? or the rightard Polish nazi ultra types like iron who are going to those manifestations in Poland how do they care if they are outcasts to the western world and civilized society? why are you so worried about me and if im an outcast why dont you worry about those people i just mentioned. why are they talking about the stadiums and fans right now these ******* or women you defend and sayings like god honor and fatherland right bow?

youtu.be/B_OpZr-wIT4

if im not doing anything illegal why do u even care what i do and not them making their own country look bad?

Ziemowit
20 Mar 2021  #703

Turning one country into six

To this very day, I cannot understand why Yougoslavia had fallen apart, but my impression is that ultimately Serbia was to be blamed for that.

My wife's family had close ties with the former Yougoslavia, both with Croatia and Serbia, and they were indeed very surprised when Yougoslavia fell to pieces.

mafketis
20 Mar 2021  #704

It's a question of who you want to be. All of your role models seem like the scum of the Earth.

Do you want a happy life worth living or a desperate ugly and violent existence?

If you want the latter.... why?

Strzelec35
20 Mar 2021  #705

also to add it isnt the men the problem or mentally ill like you claim its the hos the ******* who are rude and act like trash to all except such men you mentioned. thats who the problem its like bestiality **** you cant blame men for watching it when they by their own free will take part in it and are vermin subhuman trash men just laugh at and demean rightly so for not getting an actual ******* job.

why would i ant any sort of relationship? i only use females for sex or sex is the only thing that i have in common with them otherwise they just annoy me and im not into sponsoring ppl or buying them **** and walking them around like a dog the next morning after sex anyway.

the better question is what do men even get out of relationships or marriage besides a kick in the ass alimony payments child support payments and some woman who gets boring after a while or the sex gets boring quick anyway? sex is only fun when its kinky and new or fresh with someone either of another race ive never fuked, a threesome, someone a lot older still hot or younger thus taboo or something kinky has to be there for it to be exciting. its nothing to do with any relationships. hy would i what someone nagging me to get a job or something?

even nor al sex is boring. it needs to have some sort of power play like her letting me slap her and face fuk her upside down on a couch then lift her up like in a porno or something standing. ses by itself is already boring to me. women or females are boring to me.

mafketis
20 Mar 2021  #706

You're externalizing the causes of your unhappiness to other people....

Why pay so much attention to women who are obviously psychologically damaged? You might find their looks attractive but the knowledge of how damaged they are is hard to ignore...

People (the overwhelming majority of people) cannot be mentally healthy being entirely on their own with no non-family relationships. If you don't form relationships then you're mental health is at risk. The relationships that you do form will determine whether your happiness improves or deteriorates.

Crow
20 Mar 2021  #707

To this very day, I cannot understand why Yougoslavia had fallen apart

Germany, Vatican, and the Islamic league had the plan. EU followed and then the USA followed to back partners.

mafketis
20 Mar 2021  #708

Germany, Vatican, and the Islamic league had the pla

They're the ones that turned Milosevic into a freak ranting about 'greater Serbia' that scared everyone else away?

What a diabolically clever plan!

Crow
20 Mar 2021  #709

They're the ones that turned Milosevic into a freak ranting about 'greater Serbia' that scared everyone else away?

See how you don't know basic facts. Milosevic never spoke about Greater Serbia. He was a Yugoslavian legalist by political orientation. Vojislav Seselj spoke openly about Greater Serbia but he never ruled. He was right-wing opposition. Was arrested by the Hague tribunal and trialed for 11 years not to be found guilty, what is logical- it would be the same as you arrest Marie Le Pen in France as opposition and blame her for hate speech etc things while effectively she never ruled.

Crow
21 Mar 2021  #710

Truth? You would all change your mind when Serbia is positioned high as economically prosperous state, with good standard of living and increased influence within the Slavic world, Europe and globally. When we make more movies like Dara of Jasenovac and you learn. When you see that Popes and Vatican giving respect to Serbian Orthodox Church. When you see strength of the Serbian army. When Serbian lands reunites around Belgrade. Etc, etc.

mafketis
21 Mar 2021  #711

When Serbian lands reunites around Belgrade

Define Serbian lands....

And what about the people already living there that have voted to not be part of the Serbian lands?

Crow
21 Mar 2021  #712

Serbian lands are areas of Shtokavian speaking Slavic dialect. Its scientific definition of Balkan Serbs (today`s - Srbija, Crna Gora, Bosna i Hercegovina, Hrvatska, where Serbian language is official). So, some 70% of former Yugoslavia. In past area was larger and covered parts (or in whole) of today`s Italy, Hungary, Austria, Slovenia, Bulgaria, Romania, Northern Macedonia, Albania.

And what about the people already living there that have voted to not be part of the Serbian lands?

Did they vote in democratic environment? No. So, local identity sponsored by hostile strangers prevailed or was simple imposed by brute force. Would they vote again in democratic environment and decided to merge with rest of Serbs? Yes./ Regional development goes in this direction.

Strzelec35
21 Mar 2021  #713

hmm i agree.

Tacitus
22 Mar 2021  #714

Crna Gora, Bosna i Hercegovina, Hrvatska, where Serbian language is official

A lot of nonsense as usual. The people of Montenegro (Crna Gora) did in fact vote in a democratic referendum fpr their referendum. The people of Croatia are nowadays over 90% ethnic Croats, with Serbs forming only a tiny minority. And the larger part of Bosnia made it clear that they do wish to belong to Serbs when they resisted the Serbian hords a few decades ago. No one there is keen on joining Serbia.

area was larger

Serbia never covered even remotely any of those areas. It was in fact for most of its' histories dominated and ruled by other entities. The Romans, The Ottomans and the Austians.

Crow
22 Mar 2021  #715

Austians? My dear mute friend from Northern Serbian lands of Germany (Serbian lands in wide sense but not Shtokavian speaking area), what you mumbling to me? What Austians?

Now, here is what French says >

Maximal medieval extent of Belgrade`s (Serbia`s) direct control in 14th century > French state map published in 1862 in Paris for the use by French administration >

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Map of the Serb population within Turkish Europe and of Southern Austria with the superimposed borders of the Serbian medieval Empire of Dushan the Great (XIV. century).

In fact, ethnic Serb area was even bigger but later more on it.

Tacitus
22 Mar 2021  #716

And here is a map of the medieval kingdom of Croatia, which unlike this fantasy map not only depicted historical reality, but also predated Serbia.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Kingdom_of_Croatia.png

Reality hurts, which is why you flee to your fantasies instead.

Crow
22 Mar 2021  #717

Are you provoking or joking? That map is true work of fiction. Not a single Croat King is historically confirmed. When Papacy communicated with Catholics of the region that was via so-called Serbian Primas installed from Rome and then via Serbian Imperial Nemanjic house that was originally Catholic but turned to Orthodoxy in an attempt to be independent of Rome.

BDW, Nemanjic house is the ancestral house of Polish Jadwiga. It also telling much. Polish Catholics didn't have any relations with some medieval Croat Catholics because Croat Catholics didn't exist. Poles had contacts solely with Serbs of Catholic and Orthodox faith.

Miloslaw
22 Mar 2021  #718

Are you provoking or joking?

Neither.
He is telling the truth.
A truth that you are too weak to face up to.

Crow
23 Mar 2021  #719

What you want Milo? You don`t follow signals and you are confused. Now, lat me take your head and turn it into the right direction >

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Miloslaw
23 Mar 2021  #720

@Crow

Cozying up to that EU snake Tusk is a very bad idea.


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