Serbia etc. thread 2

signing LIVE > youtube.com/watch?v=rbVK7kVgu2Y



Serbia definitely to become new economic center of Europe.

German MTU Aero Engines > Only investment in Serbia can secure stable access to the energy and to the worldwide markets, without limitation. This fact became obvious to all in business.

MTU Maintenance's new repair facility in Serbia
> aeroreport.de/en/aviation/mtu-maintenances-new-repair-facility-in-serbia

What??? The German devils and their hellish money investing in Serbia? In the very heart of Slavia?

And you are celebrating this, Crow? You made Svetovid very very sad today.

;)

You should also celebrate. Order coming back to Europe.

And Christ and Svetovid smile again.

Hey, if it's good for Serbia, then I'm OK with it. :)

People in the heart of Slavia deserve some economic success!

I did not. Read 1017 again.

If not for Romans, today`s Germans would still be Serbs. I wonder.. Europe with Serbia (read Sarmatia) from Baltic to Balkan. Hm.. did magnates agreed to re-activate this?

Unlilke Serbia, Germamy was never conquered by the Romans

Erm... you must surely realise that Sarmatia is basically another word for Poland?


Neither was Poland for that matter. :)

@GefreiterKania
You must excuse them, they don't seem to know that the Romans called a lot of the lands north of their empire Germania. Without it necessarily being German. I have a hard time imagining Romans having an extensive knowledge about anything north of their civilization.

Never claimed the opposite, I just replied to one of Crow's inane posts.

Partly, yes. So there was Roman province of Germania and influence was decisive. Constant genocide and slave hunt on native Sarmatians (Serbians) continued behind borders of the province. Those Sarmats that survived (in what Roman called- `barbaricum Magna Germania`) were later subjugated by those previously assimilated in province of Germania. Roman name of Germania became name of new nation- German nation.

And Serbia (Shtokavian Slavic dialect speaking Serbs), the Sarmatian core, was conquered but Romans were unable to digest it. So symbiotic relationship existed to the end of the Roman Empire. Sarmats/Serbs were military elite and 17 Roman Emperors was born in what is now Serbia (19 in total in Shtokavian/Serbian speaking area). Something of which I`m not proud of.

Whose name was deliberately chosen to obfuscate the fact that the vast majority of Germania was in fact not conquered and remained unconquered as long as the Roman Empire existed. There was some trade with German tribes east of the Rhine, but as Tacitus noted, the Germanic people remained untouched by the Roman ways for good and ill.


Untrue, there were some Roman excursions into Germania, however sometimes centuries passed between them.


Completely untrue. The province of Illyria - which todays' Serbia is a part of - was one of the most wholly Romanized provinces of the Empire. Evidence for this is the number of Senators and Emperors it produced and the lack of any uprisings against the Roman rule after the initial revolt was crushed.


Actually it did not. The English language is the only language that borrows from the Roman name. In Germany it is called Deutschland, (which has no Roman origin) and the other countries often used the name of German tribes they interacted with as a name for Germany.

Untrue, all! Romanization and Germanization darkened last remains of your Serbian mind. But if you are lucky post-Corona world bringing salvation to you and your children. From the Baltic to the Balkan there would be Serbia.

Look...so many names like neighbours:

I like "Saksa" best.....short...concise....Ossi! :)

It's really interesting why Finland and Estonia use 'Saksa' as opposed to the rest of Scandinavia which use the Duitsland/Tyskland name.

A mystery for me is the name for Germany in Latvian and Lithuanian: Vacija/Vokietija. I cannot think of any ethymology of this name.

Does anyone know whence the name 'Germania' had come into Latin? Any tribe of such name in the vicinity of the Roman Empire's borders?

I once read that one theory speaks of "Ger"


and "Mani"....men with the Ger being a kind of common spear in that region....and proto-germanic "man" meaning "mann" or "man" even today....

The term man (from Proto-Germanic *mann- "person") and words derived from it can designate any or even all of the human race regardless of their sex or age

Germania = the land of the men with spears....kinda

It's not, Finland isn't a scandinavian country. It's a nordic country. The Finnish languages just like Estonian is a Finno-Ugric language, Not a scandinavian one. There are only three countries that can be called as part of scandinavia: "Norway, Sweden and Denmark"

Despite Iceland being closer linguestically to the Norse language used by Vikings It's part of nordic countries. Not scandinavia.

I have No idea why anyone thinks Finland is part of scandinavia. No scandinavian thinks it, even for a minute.

Thank You! I've tried to make that point so many times and hardly had any effect....

Are Danish adminsitered (sort of) areas part of Norden? (Thinking of Faroese Islands and Greenland)

There is a possible answer:

...Saksa has been used since the 13th century. Early merchants from Sachsen in north Germany traded with Finns. Since there was no Germany back then, they presented themselves as Sachsen which Finns twisted into Saksa/saksalainen (Germany/German). In my youth I heard the term kamasaksa (kama=things, objects), meaning trader. So saksa meant both trader and (north) German.

A lot of people centuries ago around Europe refererred to north Germans as Saxons....

Yes, that sound plausible. Thanks for the explanation.


Technically, you are right. But outside of the Scandinavian countries, the rest of Europe very often add Finland to them. This is a cultural thing plus Finland was once part of Sweden for quite a time!

'Saksa' is a name similar to 'Saxon', and historical Saxony is where Lower Saxony is today. How the Finnish people neighboured the Saxons in the past is unclear for me. Or the name may have its own proper meaning in Finnish, something like the name 'Niemcy' has in Polish or other Slavic languages.

I would certainly say yes to them being part of norden.

@Ziemowit
Austria influenced and controlled Croatia for a VERY long time. It still doesn't make Croatia germanic, Austrian or Central European.

How you write about Finland being a Scandinavian country is like Crow trying to convince us that Croatia is basically Germany... good luck

Northern Germany were very heavily invested in trade (The Hanseatic league, most notably Lübeck) they had an administrative office in Novgorod. Which encompassed terrains in modern day Russia that bordered with Finland. So having Saxon traders in daily contact with Finns visiting the location of St. Petersburg isn't so far fetched as one would think during those times

Considering we know history, that when speak of Germans, we speak of Serbs (as Lusatians still call themselves) we have to put this etymology into that context, no matter what pro-Germanic and pro-western European scholars say and falsify. So, in the linguistic history of the region was normal B to translate into V and vice versa. See, Vokietija sounds pretty as Bokietija, meaning same as Boika- original Czech land with border with what we know as `Vokietija`. So, its VOKIETIJA = BOKIETIJA = BOJKA. And Boika itself represent, as linguistic say, shortage of Serboika, ie Serbia, which again corresponds with fact that Frankish Empire bordered solely with Sarmats ie Serbs (both names are in use in old chronicles). Connect it with a fact that Czech Boii had tribal alliance with Balkan/CE Skordisci and you have Serbia from Baltic to Balkan which, as we see, did exist in past (some semblance of Serbian unity did exist).

Plus, we know Swab, Swed, Sczerbiec, Spaniard, etc names represent all local versions of Serbian ie Sarmatian name. No wonder Polish legends say Poles are of Sarmatian ie Serbian origin. What else. Serbian Balkan-Baltic line was that primary backbone European and Western core (born within Lepenski vir and Vinca Danubian cultures more then 11.000 years ago and was spread after Ice was finished in slow migration along the river nets) which culture, heritage and language directly live only in modern day Slavs.

All is clear and logical.

That's because Fins are not really a scandinavian nation (their language belongs to the ugro-finnic group) and Estonia "cannot into Scandinavia" (as we know from Polandball cartoons). :)


Does this mean that Britney Spears is originally from Germany?

If she wants to or not....

:)

I see two conflicting points of view here: everyone is originally either from Serbia or from Germany. ;) Of course we wouldn't have these silly arguments, if we could all agree that everyone is originally from Poland.

@GefreiterKania
I am not sure if the world is ready for such news yet, most prefer Africa to be the source of all humanity. It would solve a problem or two for sure tho

...or that it really doesn't mean squat.
As far as Poland, that's one fact I would like to remove from my US passport but they won't let me.

Why? There are surely worse heritages....

Nah, in Poland we call you Niemcy - ie. people who are MUTE - cannot communicate in the same language like Slovianie i.e. people of the common word. So nothing to do with tribes.


he suffers an incurable illness - doofus- ianism.
Plus dementia he posted it about 66 times already if not more. Maybe is an acute attraction seeking syndrome.

You see BB, wanting Poland to be better then every other country in every possible field is part of being Polish. Some who expect it, then realise it isn't so. Or even fall into depression over thinking it will never happen flee abroad or run into addictions. Most notably in the past, alcoholic beverages with a bitter taste "Gorzałka"

We are hopeless romantics, but it also gives life meaning however.