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Serbia etc. thread 2



Ironside
10 Nov 2020  #211

Oh you are very very wrong.

I'm not. Majority like 90% doesn't care at all. Some people have some sympathy towards Serbia including me. If anybody would listen to your BS they would reconsider.

Crow
10 Nov 2020  #212

Mieszko got baptized rather willingly. Stop lying

Racow Crow is a liar now? Shame on you.

How wilingly? Like wilingly to avoid certain death if disobey? Certain death that befall so many in what is now Germany?

Mieszko was so wilingly terrified by Rome that he betrayed his alliance with more western brethren, after all, his ancestral faith.

We all know how all Slavs (ie Sarmats) were baptized. By fire and sword, awashed in their own blood.

If anybody would listen to your BS they would reconsider.

I and many more Serbs in Poland and outside of Poland, as well as Polani and other kin, already reconsidering Poland.

Rome and Vatican organized and themselves commited genocide on about 1 mil. Orthodox Serbs and turned more then 1 mil. Catholic Serbs into Croats. Not to speak of forcible converted Orthodox Serbs.

Official Poland show public empaty on Balkan Serbs or official Poland isnt relevant factor to us and represent impostor on the throne of Poland.

Poland is Sarmatic or Poland is sold from within and should be liberated.

Poland should reject Vatican monsters. Publicly condem what was done to Balkan Serbs. I repeat, problem isnt Catholicism but Vatican.

Crow
10 Nov 2020  #213

What co-operation are you talking about?

Czehoslovakia. Dont pretend you don't know. You talk openly to Racow Crow or you cover yourself with your ears.

Why Poland needed it? Let me tell you. Vatican needed it. That is logical explanation.

So, let us a little bit change format of Poland, so Poland is more Poland, like it was, and not Latino favela in embryo.

Mr Grunwald
10 Nov 2020  #214

@Crow
You seem to be under the impression that Poland didn't perform her political ambitions independantly, just like how U.K, Germany, SU and U.S.A looked at Poland as in who's sphere of influence she is. Let me make it abundently clear to you, if Poland's political regime at any point between 1920-1939 made any Co-operation or slightly even considered allying herself with Nazi-Germany, then the Polish society would have revolted against it.

Also Ironside rightly considers what you write as bullocks as Vatican is not perceived as a political state, but as an spiritual/religious one. YOU perceiving it as political makes any Pole, on any part of the political spectrum sceptical towards you. Unless they are rabiatically anti-clerical and atheistic as they look at a church as a power structure (creating or seeing a division between Clergy and church goers which is wrong within Catholic theology as the church is not a building or just the clergy)

So it's up to you Crow, to continue giving the impression of a communist or stop for a bit and think it out.

If you want to discuss slavic vs slavic conflicts during the period of Poland's beginnings. You can always start a history thread about it

Crow
11 Nov 2020  #215

if Poland's political regime at any point between 1920-1939 made any Co-operation or slightly even considered allying herself with Nazi-Germany

Explain it to Czechs.

then the Polish society would have revolted against it.

Media and political manipulation. And people didn`t notice.

Media in Yugoslavia mistaken and Serbs did revolted against gov that tried to collaborate with Nazi Germany and then was coup d`etat and collaboration stooped.

Vatican is not perceived as a political state, but as an spiritual/religious one.

Oh I know that. I tries here to change that opinion of Catholic Poles and other Catholic brethren in Poland. You mistaking. You don`t have information. Vatican can`t be considered spiritual center of any kind but satanic. As I told you, Vatican, and especially Franciscan order was prominent, organized and committed massive and most bestial genocide on Orthodox Serbs and cultural genocide on Catholic Serbs declaring them as Croats.

YOU perceiving it as political makes any Pole, on any part of the political spectrum sceptical towards you.

Man, we live in era of internet. Go investigate on your own. I speak truth. You are in error.

So it's up to you Crow, to continue giving the impression of a communist or stop for a bit and think it out.

You want me to apologize to Vatican for committed genocide on Serbs? You want me to stop speaking publicly about that?

That you want?

If you want to discuss slavic vs slavic conflicts during the period of Poland's beginnings.

Don`t mock me. I informed you correctly and sharing truth with you. You must find way to cope with it and I telling you what is the way. Stop seeing Vatican as your spiritual center. There are genocidal maniacs, not Christ serving souls. They harming both, Christianity as a whole and also Catholicism in particular.

Mr Grunwald
11 Nov 2020  #216

@Crow
Czechoslovakia and Poland started off with on a bad footing after ww1, both states looked upon each other as a short-lived states. It wasn't until 1938 when Czechoslovak regime became desperate for any support that they were willing to talk to Poland's leadership, which was too late as Czechoslovakia's fate seemed to be sealed and France's unwillingness to mobilize against Nazi Germany militarily made any moves by Poland alone seem without influence on the situation.

Crow, you honestly think you will win me over by attacking the church? It's quite evident who you serve, I don't even need to point it out.

I have not written for you to stop, writing or apologizing. What you do is on your head, your choice of words clearly show you want the ruin of the church.

Again you are trying to tarnish the church's reputation and not talk about facts. What is your goal here Crow? To restore the Roman Empire? Lead by Serbians? Forget it

Ask any Pole if they want any emperor ruling Poland. See for yourself what the answer will be

Crow
11 Nov 2020  #217

honestly think you will win me over by attacking the church? It's quite evident who you serve, I don't even need to point it out.

Facts are facts. I serve my butchered ancestors. And you desperately need something to prevent you see Vatican as a satanic core. That is not my problem. I don`t have problem with Catholic Church. I speak of Vatican.

What you try here? To ruin my argument by involving Russians? You have your problem with them, I have mine. They say they are Third Rome. Its disgusting to me. Why call itself Third Rome? Why seek to be copy of evil? From my angle, Poles and Russians are both equally crazy. Tries to tell you that Rome committed genocide on Serbs and don`t deserve to be center of any religion. I find equally hard to explain to both, Poles and to Russians. Well face it. Rome is evil.

I even told you that Patriarch of Constantinople never said a single word of empathy for Serbs because of Greek genocide on 800.000 Serbs after WWI. Because of that I don`t see Constantinople quite evil as Popes and Vatican but let`s say very close to it. Actually, Constantinople proved they would do the same as Vatican to us, just if they get chance.

@Mr Grunwald
You live in a world of fiction. I moved out of matrix.

Mr Grunwald
11 Nov 2020  #218

@Crow
I haven't denied your ancestors being butchered, I simply don't know enough about the matter to have an opinion about, even less take a stance on it.

I don't read a title and decide the content of a book, I would rather see the title, check the price tag, check up who wrote it and why (if possible to know) the content itself, what I feel about it. Then qualify it as good/bad, like it, don't like it etc. degree of it.

You are constantly asking us about not taking it seriously, do you want any Pole to just pat your shoulders, say it's sad to hear and move along? Or actually do something about it?

People in general are busy, and most Poles have very low understanding of Balkan issues. So instead of decrying about Catholic Church, why aren't you explaining the situation in the balkans?

Crow
11 Nov 2020  #219

I haven't denied your ancestors being butchered, I simply don't know enough about the matter to have an opinion about

But I don`t get info that you tried to find it on the Net, that you did effort. No, you telling me that I work against Catholic Church. On that, I informed you that people in Vatican, mock entire Christianity and that when I criticize Vatican, I actually protecting even Catholic Church.

Or actually do something about it?

I want tear in the eye of some fat or skinny adept of Vatican, when realize that by killing Serbs Vatican and maniacal Franciscan Order enraged Poles to that extent that all Catholics of Poland gave middle finger to Vatican and, as result declared Polish Catholic Church that is independent from Vatican. THAT I want. Tears in the eyes of monsters when realize that losing control. I want they regret and only by losing control they will face emotion of regret, because they are immune to be moved by suffering of mere humans.

So instead of decrying about Catholic Church, why aren't you explaining the situation in the balkans?

I don`t decrying about Catholic Church. I defending Catholic Church when I refuse to connect Vatican with Catholic Church. Its sad you don`t realize that. Equally, by same standards, by my own standards, I criticize Constantinople, not Orthodox Church. To me Vatican and Constantinople don`t serve Christianity. They serve only to themselves.

Spot this for starter > Sons of Herod (genocide in independent state of Croatia WWII)

>>>> youtube.com/watch?v=5r1JNnFjgag

Crow
11 Nov 2020  #220

If Poland as state fails to distance itself from Vatican, Poland as state would fail on historical test and won`t be worthy to exist. It will also mean that we Serbs (Orthodox and Catholic) failed to help Poland and save it as state (that is what I now tries). If that is no possible, we Serbs then must start to work on liberation of enslaved Slavs in Poland. We should in that case support creation of new Slavic states on the soil of today's Poland.

This situation created Vatican when declared war on Serbians. War to the extinction. If with Vatican, Poland is in war with Serbs.

Reform your Catholicisms. Free it. Free yourself. Live without Vatican.

Do it in time.

Ironside
11 Nov 2020  #221

distance i

you shouldn't distance yourself from your meds.

Crow
11 Nov 2020  #222

Kashubs coming on Serbian TV and complaining about Poland. Lusatians, too. Just wait. Serbs detect Poland as failure, mark my words, Poland is lost. From within.

We Serbs aren`t Russians. We aren`t Third Rome. We are Serbs. Racowie. Sarmatian finest.

And Russia? Just wait when they are reprimanded. Turned to right path.

Vatican will deeply regret for every Serbian child, woman and man. Oh how will they regret. They gave flame, they will get flame.

It will be such a turbulence that shall be remembered for all time.

Ironside
11 Nov 2020  #223

We Serbs

You are a lone nutter. WE? Are you talking about you and your flies? Go take a shower! tsk tsk

Crow
11 Nov 2020  #224

They harmed Serbs. I know my people and Geo-strategy around Serbs. I know there will be tectonic consequences. That is why I speak as I speak.

You also spot this for starter > Sons of Herod (genocide in independent state of Croatia WWII)

>>>> youtube.com/watch?v=5r1JNnFjgag

Ziemowit
11 Nov 2020  #225

Gavrilo Princip, Serbian student behind independence of Poland

In a way, you are right. Had it not been for the WW First in which all the three partitioning powers of Poland lost, Poland could have never re-emerged as an independent state.

On the other hand, Gavrilo had only put a spark under the powder keg which was Europe in 1914, so the Great War would have broken out sooner or later even without his act, destroying millions of life, but ruining the old world of oppressive regimes and bringing independence to the oppressed nations like Poland.

Crow
11 Nov 2020  #226

reat War would have broken out sooner or later even without his act

But think again. If Gavrilo didn`t do it, Serbia wouldn`t be involved and Russia maybe wouldn`t even enter WWI. Or in worse case scenario, war would happen but status quo would remain in Europe as result. AH would survive, Turkish Empire would survive. Britain, Vatican and Germany would support it. Russia was anyway weak to confront that order of things. Russia only entered war out of utter desperation because without Serbia and Serbs totally extinct, Slavic Europe wouldn`t exist. On the long run, Russia, too would be defeated.

Gavrilo. Telling you man. One man changed direction of history. Only he is responsible for independence of Poland. Mizkiewich expected exactly this direction of things when gave advice to Czartorisky to play on Serbs. Mitzkiewich believed that only Serbian factor can move things in Europe. Later, Czartorisky understood and exactly predicted reaction of Russia if Serbia is attacked and prepared things among Polish patriots.

Gavrilo`s action liberated all Slavs as chain reaction.

Just read about Mizkiewish`s stance on Serbs and work of Czartorisky with Serbs on terrain.

But Mizkiewich was genius. He knew it. Serbs did their work, yes, but Mizkiewich is father of modern Poland. And Poles even don`t know this. Nothing of this in Polish schools.

You know why? Because, to make Poland live, Mitzkiewich had to confront Vatican`s Geo-strategic aims. That`s why.

Crow
12 Nov 2020  #227

To restore the Roman Empire? Lead by Serbians? Forget it

Far from it my dear. Roman Empire was and is the largest thif guild ever known. Serbia, that last oasis of free Sarmatian mind (ie Slavic) is something else.

And see, Belgrade is still just a shadow of its past and future glory and already Slavic world and European politics rotate around it. And its just a shadow of itself. Imagine when it fully recuperate.

What would Belgrade want? I know one thing. Beograd would want a lot of. But to have anything Belgrade must cut acess of Vatican to Belgrade's natural domain. Why? Not just because Vatican harmed Serbs. Because lesson of Yugoslavia teching us that by move of its finger Vatican was able to ruin one Slavic conglomerate. This mistake we wont repeat, to give space to it to ruin us. Vatican moved too far and now must go out.

We keep Constantinople out of our business. We will manage same with Vatican.

Mr Grunwald
12 Nov 2020  #228

@Crow
I remember you bragging about Serbia having an Emperor or something, aren't also the two headed eagle of Serbia an Byzantine (Roman) inspiration? Make a choice, you anti-Rome or just want to make an own version of Rome?

Crow
12 Nov 2020  #229

Most ancient Serbian symbols are Dragon, a wild Boar and also Eagle, single or two headed with Ocila Cross on chest (ie firesteels). Actually Easter Romans used our heradry using firesteels, that is also oldest symbol of Polish Warlords and Kings.

You have in mind that 18 Romans Emperors of classical antuquity of still united Roman Empire was born in Serbia.

All synbolism of Rome is actually stolen Sarmatian synbolism via famous Sarmatian auxiliary cavalry that served Rome.

@Mr Grunwald

Dont underestimate your own civilization and don't wait for Vatican to acknowladge contribution of your civilization. Dont wait, for you would wait forever if you wait. You heard Israely Netanyahu? By his own words Jews and Serbs had contacts even before 500 BC. We Serbs, you Poles, we are masters of our own would. We arent some late arrivals. We are autohtonous poople in our countries and Europe.

Rome stole a lot of from our common ancestors. Via Rome, entire western Europe.

Very interesting info for you. You know how earliest Serbian rebel groups against Turkish yoke called themselves (by our own old sources)? They called themselves Golaci and, listen more, they used to be half naked while fighting, considered themselves that way dedicated to the death for ancestors in advance. And listen this. Oldest flag of those rebels was Wild boar. This remember you of something? > Celts, Gauls > Kelti (as it sounds Seltic) > (in Serbian `Seliti` means, to wander, nomads). Many sources speak of Celts as of branch of Scythians and Scythians as of nomadic branch of Sarmatians. Listen more. Why Gaul? Why Galic name? By Roman sources Galic were Celts who fought naked entirely of half naked. Obviously, Romans heard naked warriors Golaci call themselves Golaci and so comes the word `Gaul`. In Serbian word Golaci means exactly that Goli > Naked. Golaci > Those who are naked. But not just naked warriors. They were special in something. Not in sense specially trained but in sense of duty. True, they were trained but in this case point is in their dedication. They volunaterly took on themselves to die in incoming immanent battle and they were first line, as shock troops to break enemy formation. Why naked? Few reasons. To prepare themselves for death. To go from this world as they came to it, naked. It was part of philosophy of ancients. Then also, naked warriors had special intimidating, shocking and destructive effect on the enemy.

Sarmats were Celts/Gauls and Celts/Gauls were Sarmats/Scythians. Thracians, Ilyrians were also Sarmats. Jews officially admitting this but Vatican and Constantinople are still silent. Wait that we extinct so they admit. Even then, they won`t admit it as kind of late show of respect. No, they will admit it because they must, as scientific fact.

Its same like in USA today. They speak nice of native Americans. Sure, now when they destroyed them. But they need talk on it to wash its hand, morale and to admit scientific facts.

You still wait for Vatican and Constantinople? For Italians and Greeks? Them?

Crow
14 Nov 2020  #230

News

Serbia and Polish USA Polonia invest in Serb Republic within Bosnia. Serbia s PM Ana Brnabic today announced building of 3 hidro electric plants on Drina river.

Corey Lewandowski is wise and dobar brat.

Indeed, it is not uncommon for Orthodox believers in Slavic countries

Unfortunately, this goes for all Christianized Slavs, Poles included. Serbs are only exception because we have Slava custom preserved which prevent us to put Christianity above ancestors, ie kin people. That`s why Vatican seek to destroy us and Constantinople turned blind eye on it. They also never condemned Greek genocide on Orthodox Serbs.

Vesko Vukovic
15 Nov 2020  #231

Serbia s PM Ana Brnabic today announced

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Eat up Crow, here's your free sandwich 🥪 for today. You've sure earned it.

You can also collect 2,000 RSD at your nearest SNS office.

Crow
15 Nov 2020  #232

2000 RSD? Sure? Where? I mean where is nearest?

Vesko Vukovic
15 Nov 2020  #233

youtu.be/AZGCP36RV_g

2000 (+ sendvič) for Gospodin Crow

:D

Crnogorac3
16 Nov 2020  #234

Serbia s PM Ana Brnabic today announced

Hey Crow, congrats to your Croat prime minister Mr. or Mrs. Ana Brnabić getting a baby son with her partner! (Her partner who gave birth to little Igor can be defined not as a supruga but as a supružnica I guess?) LOL

She also demanded to move into the former villa of president Slobodan Milošević in the posh area of Dedinje in Belgrade. As Ironside would say, it is probably for the good of the country so that he/she can serve the people better. ROFL

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It is a unique case where two lesbians will be together raising a baby.

:)))

Vesko Vukovic
16 Nov 2020  #235

Well at least the child will never go hungry as it will have 4 boobs to suck.

Crow
16 Nov 2020  #236

The good one. And Vucic have to care for two mamas because, I am sure, girls share everything.

What to tell you dobri brate, nobody is perfect.

I understand you dobri brate. Serbian leadership now looks like good orgie club. But hey, as long as we have good economic prospects, let they all f*** each others every single night. And day

Vesko Vukovic
17 Nov 2020  #237

youtu.be/Ik7aea14LsA

Fall of the longest standing European dictator Milo Đukanović
youtu.be/IEbOKErpnZ0

VESELI SE SRPSKI RODE - PODGORICA, CRNA GORA
(Serbian people of Montenegro rejoice after the election victory and the fall of the dictator Milo Djukanovic who ruled for 30 years, who was financed by George Soros, EU and NATO, whose regime controlled the entire media but despite all of this still couldn't win.)

rferl.org/a/30812282.html
Danica Crnogorčević whose song became a symbol of the protests. A new dawn has risen.

youtu.be/50t-8B0v9CI
Beautiful song, powerful voice, wonderful text.

youtu.be/kvHNfSPo1x4
ПРАВОСЛАВЉЕ ЦРНОМ ГОРОМ БЛИСТА - Даница Црногорчевић

Crow
18 Nov 2020  #238

new dawn has risen

United Serbian States

Its funny, sombody spoke of a Greater Serbia and we just want United Serbian States. Greater Serbia would be from Baltic to Balkan, entire Europe even and all realm of ancient Sarmatia.

Alright, we create Central European Union around Belgrade as soon we consolidate United Serbian States. That would be enough.

Crow
19 Nov 2020  #239

Go tell a Polish "Sarmat" patriot

You would be surprised to see what all is allowed to Serbs to speak in Poland. Why do you think Vatican hate us so much.

ROFL!!!

What rofl brate? Jews didn't open era of slavery on Sarmats/Slavs but Romans (and Greeks before them). How long do you intend to be selective?

Vesko Vukovic
19 Nov 2020  #240

@Crow

You are one very naive and deeply misguided individual. The funny thing is you say how Poles need to wake up, while at the same time you appear to be totally blind.

I already told you, don't comment on issues which you don't have a slightest clue about, you make yourself to appear even more foolish and are losing credibility all the time. After you have done some proper research later on about this subject you will be forced to change your stance.

So stop commenting just for the sake of commenting.

quotes.yourdictionary.com/author/nikola-tesla/

Look what Nikola Tesla the wisest Serbian head of all time said in a private conversation with a secretary on the subject.

Your main problem is that you have been brainwashed by communist propaganda and you take your fantasies to be a reality.


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