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Serbia etc. thread 2



Crow
19 Nov 2020  #241

I heard Israely PM Netanyahu say publicly Serbs (ie Slavs) are natives of Europe. Go ask Patriarch of Constantinople or go ask Pope of Rome. They would tell Slavs are guests in their own houses.

In my book, I give chance to Jews or I am not morale person.

Tacitus
20 Nov 2020  #242

@ Crow: Since you like Netanyahu so much, what about his decision to acknowledge Kosovo?

Crow
20 Nov 2020  #243

So what? Poland also acknowledged Kosovo and we all know Poland will annul that. Just you eat your popcorn and wait.

If you, I would worry about Eastern Germany. You know, they are still Slavs.

Tacitus
20 Nov 2020  #244

we all know Poland will annul that

Poland has made 0 indications for that. To my knowledge there is no mayor party in Poland that entertains that idea.

Crow
20 Nov 2020  #245

All political factors in Poland wants Serbia in Visegrad.

You underestimate Poland. Poland is also interested to secure its access to warm seas. See, Kosovo and Metohija are center of Balkan, very important geo-strategic zone.

Then also, Poland knows Serbia entered period of expansion, not shrinking, like Germany. Slavic part of Adriatic is Serbian sea.

Crow
21 Nov 2020  #246

IIRC linguist .... did a village to village survey from Serbia to Bulgaria and couldn't find a clear border where one turned into the other...

Here is the Napoleonic map of Turkish Europe that, as it says overlap with medieval Serbian Empire from 14 century. It also shows Serbian ethnic and linguistic core and general Serbian populace and speaking area. Map also almost perfectly overlap (but its much bigger) with maps of former Yugoslavia and, imagine this, map of Roman province of Iliria. It is also in modern linguistics area of Slavic Shtokavian dialect that is Serbian language of three dialects- ikavski, ekavski, and ijekavski. Most modern political construct and vulgarization is term Serbo-Croatian language. Its not Serbo-Croatian. Its just Serbian.

As for Bulgarians in particular, if you by chance speak with educated Serbs of them, they would tell you that Bulgarians represent Serbs who were exposed to Persian Empire. Persian rule changed them (partially Semitinized some of them) and local language. Turks came much later. No, don`t be surprised because I mentioned Persians. Serbs, as all Slavs are natives of Europe.

But most interesting for you here on map is area in yellow. Look at it. It is ancient Serbian populace that was exposed to Hellenization but they preserved their language and they therefore they are hare on Napoleonic Serbian linguistic map. It is that ancient Slavic (ie Sarmatian) populace that named ancient city of Bylazora (go Google that). Why is this important you to know? Because you probably never in your life heard that this population was by Greeks massacred in enormous genocide after WWI in time of creation of modern Greece. More then 800.000 Serbs was killed and in their place settled ethnic Greek populace from Anatolia, refuges from collapsing Turkish Empire. That is how Greeks for the first time in history got Northern Greece in ethnic sense. It was always ancient Slavic land, never ethnic Greek. Now is Greek. Genocide practically, in effect, almost totally erased this branch of Serbian population. And consequences for Greeks? Non. Proof of it that you even never heard of it.

Tacitus
21 Nov 2020  #247

All political factors in Poland wants Serbia in Visegrad

Untrue. I haven't found a single source claiming that anyone is actually entertaining this idea.

secure its access to warm seas

1. Serbia is a londlocked country, you don't have any access to the sea.

2. Going by that logic, they should invite Croatia.

3. The Visegrad countries have access to the sea via their EU membership.

entered period of expansion, not shrinking,

Serbia has not expanded anything, in fact Serbia's population is in decline.

Crow
21 Nov 2020  #248

Untrue. I haven't found a single source claiming that anyone is actually entertaining this idea.

And I also find sources telling me Germany collapses. If you are lucky Tacituse, you live in Eastern Germany and experience process of come back to Slavdom. If you are unlucky and live in West Germany, Russians and Americans give you to the Francerabia.

1. Serbia is a londlocked country, you don't have any access to the sea.

Serbian lands are wast and do cover Adriatic. My people shall be free.

2. Going by that logic, they should invite Croatia.

They considered that in their desperation and wisely concluded, Croatia is German and Vatican`s artificial construct. Serbs are true player.

3. The Visegrad countries have access to the sea via their EU membership.

I see, you do think Poles are stupid.

Serbia has not expanded anything, in fact Serbia's population is in decline.

In a blink of an eye, it could be 20 million. For starter.

Tacitus
21 Nov 2020  #249

You could try and present as with a source that actually backs up your claim that Serbia is under consideration for joining Visegrad.

wast and do cover Adriatic

Not according to any map I see.

They considered that

Again any source for that?

Crow
21 Nov 2020  #250

Find love in your heart.

Crow
22 Nov 2020  #251

Funeral held for deceased Patriarch Irinej (Miroslav Gavrilović) of Serbian Orthodox Church. In 800 years of Serbian Orthodox Church Irinej was 45. Patriarch.

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New Patriarch of SOC to become Metropolitan bishop of Bosnia and Herzegovina, Hrizostom (Rajko Jević) >

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Metropolitan bishop Hrizostom (in the center, red crown)

Strzelec35
24 Nov 2020  #252

Merged:

I started reading more stuff The serb wrote on here and agree with him



Crow has actually a lot of wisdom guys. I agree with him thwt for us Poles Russia has to be strong. for us to survive as a species and not become another metoo movement we need the east and preserve our eastern genes and russia nas to be strong to prevent the west's diversity culture and metoo from ever coming to Poland. anyone agree? wat u fink Dirk?

Novichok
24 Nov 2020  #253

100% in agreement. That's why Russia is the country I visit most often using google maps. And I never have enough of their May 9 parades, documentaries about the Battle of Stalingrad, and my ultimate joy, the days they took Berlin.

No, I am not a Russian. Never been there, although I wish I could.

Crow
24 Nov 2020  #254

I promote among Poles and other western Slavs (ie Sarmats) here logical way of thinking. Always told them that no matter all, Russia represent factor of balance for very existance of Poland. Always told them that if Russia ever collapse, the next day Poland would be no more, destroyed by Vatican and Germany.

Russia have its own reasons to support formation of Central European Union, from Poland's Baltic to the Serbian Adriatic, maybe even to the Black Sea and maybe even to the Aegean Sea, what Greaks took by commiting genocide on Serbs.

And it is so natural Scythia to support Sarmatia. For we are kin.

Racowie are with woman of Poland.

Regards from Novi Sad, city of EXIT fest.

Michel88
24 Nov 2020  #255

^Hi, Crow! Do you happen to know a Serbian/Slovak girl from Novi Sad?

Crow
24 Nov 2020  #256

But of course. I know a lot of

Crow
25 Nov 2020  #257

POLONIA! POLONIA! POLONIA! POLONIA! POLONIA! POLONIA! POLONIA!

Oh glory be to the Polonia, truly vital part of Slavic West!

Polonia, brat Corey Lewandowski and his private company continuing to pump money to Bosnian Serbs that hold vital Geo-Strategic point in a world of clashing civilizations. Only positive thing in that miserable false country such is Bosnia and Herzegovina is entity of Serb Republic, heavily supported by Serbia, Poland and Polonia and Russia. That is only place on Earth where something Polish and something Russian agreed to work together because they know what is in the game. Failure is not acceptable.

My dear friends of this forum know this. Bosnia is place of suffering where Vatican and EU push Catholics and Orthodox to live within same political entities with Muslims, in regions where rule Sharia law and where Catholics and Orthodox don`t have future but live in misery or flee. Orthodox Serbs at least managed to have Serb Republic but Catholics of Bosnia truly suffer. What of them still live in Bosnia flee to Serb Republic and for documents of Serb Republic. Great shame on Vatican for continuing to play its dirty games with Catholics and other Christians on Balkan.

Drasko Stanivukovic, young Serbian politician, new hope of Serb Republic within Bosnia, bringer of changes to entire Bosnia and Herzegovina- On the wings of Polish and Russian money! Finger in the eye to all those who don`t wish well to Slavs (ie Sarmats) >>>>>

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Crow
26 Nov 2020  #258

Japan to invest 1,5 billion EUR in Serbia - Biggest automotive investment in the world in 2020/2021 starting in Serbia >>>

Japan's Nidec mulls factory in Serbia's Vojvodina - provincial govt official

Japan's electric motors manufacturer Nidec Corporation

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Read today this truly happening so to share here
This is huge. It would be production for 200.000 - 300.000 electric cars per year.

Ironside
26 Nov 2020  #259

I agree

Just move over there. See if you like it.

I wish I could.

same goes for you!

Crow
26 Nov 2020  #260

@Ironside

Thats the funny one dobri crazy brate Irone. He, he. Yes I can imagine you kicking them in Siberia. Who knows, maybe you yourself find cerrier there. With your Saudi mentality you could lead camps in Siberia. Camps for woman of Poland which refuse to behave as walking wombs.

Iron, camarade inquisitor of Siberia.

Ironside
26 Nov 2020  #261

Thats the funny one

So you admit you are talking rubbish.

Crow
26 Nov 2020  #262

Of course. No need to torture me Pane inquisitore, I admit.

News

Serbia is full of USA citizens of all age. IT workers, business, retired people. They are kind of specific refugees. Dont ask for state support but coming in Serbia to find peace, to work more nirmally then in USA, to invest and enter business combinations only Serbia can offer as state in good relations with all Earth meridians. Serbian money is second safest in the world so USA citizens transfer dollars to dinars and save money in Serbian banknote.

Crow
28 Nov 2020  #263

Why would Serbia ever agree with Russian export of resources to Germany? Our lobby in Russia is stronger then German lobby there.

So, why? Because Germany would be Serbian-friendly? Sure, let us see then. We wait.

Crow
29 Nov 2020  #264

Let us continue to explore the genesis. The real history of Europe.

BELLUM PERMANENS: Germani et Serbi
kpolisa.com/KP41/1-12%20Bogunovic.pdf

conflict between the Germanic peoples and the Serbs - the corps of Slavic nations which emerged after the 7th century by separating from the Serbs

Since the 6th century, border between Germani and Serbs was on the river Elbe, in modern Germany

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Wendish Crusade
> wikipedia.org/wiki/Wendish_Crusade

Emperor Otto the Great led to the introduction of burgwards to protect German conquests in the lands of the Sorbs.

the Crusade could be viewed as a success in terms of its successful acquisition of Slavic lands as it encouraged colonization by German peasants

> en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wends

Roman-era Veneti

"Wends" derived from the Roman-era people called in Latin Veneti, Venedi or Venethi, .... people is mentioned by Pliny and Ptolemy as inhabiting the Baltic.

Holy Roman Empire........ established Christian missions, German colonies and German administrative institutions........ in Wendish territories... uprising .... delayed Germanisation for two centuries

> scalar.usc.edu/works/dissolution-of-czechoslovakia/samos-empire--victory-against-franks.8

The most famous event of Samo's rule as a king was his victory over the Frankish royal army under Dagobert I in 631 or 632

Dervan, the "duke of the Sorbs", initially subordinate to the Franks, joined the Slavic tribal union after Samo defeated Dagobert I.

> en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samo%27s_Empire

Samo's Empire (Also known as "Samo's Kingdom" or "Samo's State") is the historiographical name for the West Slavic tribal union

Moravia and Nitravia (Nitra), additionally the union included Czech tribes, Sorbian tribes (under Dervan) and other West Slavic tribes along the river Danube

> en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dervan

Fredegar in his Latin chronicle as dux gente Surbiorum que ex genere Sclavinorum: "ruler of the people of the Surbi (Sorb, Serbja, Serb autonym: Srbi)

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Crow
30 Nov 2020  #265

Serbian army peacekeepers celebrate Vidovdan, a day dedicated to Svetovid and ancestors, in Lebanon

Pukni zoro (song - Crack dawn) - turn on subtitles

>>> youtube.com/watch?v=qffCG1bBCBI

dolnoslask
30 Nov 2020  #266

Jesus I hope they can fight better than they can sing.

Never knew there was such a thing as "Serbian peace keepers " thanks for the education.

Crow
30 Nov 2020  #267

We shall see soon enough. We shall see.

And peace? You know how ancients used to say - Only the dead have seen the end of the war.

Crow
3 Dec 2020  #268

Well inforned sources suggest formation of pro-Serbian political parry in Poland that should focus on all woman of Poland, Kashubs, Lusatians, Silesians, Lemki, etc.

I think its good idea. Such a party have serious chance to rule Poland.

Vesko Vukovic
3 Dec 2020  #269

@Crow

Did you skip therapy?

Crow
3 Dec 2020  #270

Eh Vesko. You have to ruin every party. Like some old woman.


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