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Soros uses millions to fan mirgant crisis and destroy Europe



jon357
23 Apr 2016  #121

"really, didn't know that".

Nothing to 'know' since 'sharia zones' don't actually exist...

Nojas
23 Apr 2016  #122

Depends on how you define it.

If it's an officially recognised area where sharia is the law? No there are none.
But where it's practised and enforced illegally by violence in areas where police and authorities are not present? Yes, there are some.

Polonius3
23 Apr 2016  #123

sharia zones

The interesting thing is that no-go zones were already written up extensively by the liberal media in the early to mid-2000s. It was only when the PC Dictatorship caught wind of it that they imposed their ban, the ban you are now desperately trying to uphold.

AP, for example, writing this of "Muslim extremists" back in November of 2005 about riots in Paris:

"Some officials suspect the unrest that reached into Paris proper early Sunday has in part been instigated by gangs hoping to turn their neighborhoods into no-go zones for police so drug trafficking and racketeering can thrive."

Over at NBC is this link which in turn leads to several others discussing - as far back as 2002 - the "no go zones" not only of France but Sweden, Denmark and Belgium. A 2005 headline from The Brussels Journal reads: Ramadan Rioting in Europe's No-Go Areas. Among other things it links to a translation from the Danish paper Jyllands-Posten, the paper that famously published a cartoon of Mohammed, writing as follows of an incident in Denmark back in 2005:

"The police have to stay away. This is our area. We decide what goes down here....We are tired of what we see happening with our prophet...."

And here is that bastion of American right-wing yahoos, the New York Times, writing of Paris in 2002:

"Yet Arab gangs regularly vandalize synagogues here, the North African suburbs have become no-go zones at night, and the French continue to shrug their shoulders." (The NYT shed their liberal mantle when Jews are affected!)

jon357
23 Apr 2016  #124

I see you've switched your focus to rough areas to try and wriggle out of your lie about 'sharia zones'.

So come on Po, where are these 'sharia zones'?

Polonius3
23 Apr 2016  #125

switched your

Not focus, but terminology. It seems no-go zones is the most common. Only the Muslims themsleves put up signs proclaiming Sharia zones, but the PC press rarely shows pictures thereof.

epeat the lie

I do not know if it was a lie, I simply posted it. Posting something simply throws it up for discussion and does not necesessarily imply endorsement or promotion.

jon357
23 Apr 2016  #126

but terminology

So why did you so stubbornly maintain that 'sharia zones' exist?
Only the Muslims themsleves put up signs proclaiming

More accurate to say "Only a handful of annoying teenagers once put up stickers proclaiming"...

So where precisely are your "Sharia zones". I've three times lived in majority Muslim neighbourhoods in the UK, poor ones as with all the social exclusion that breeds problems and somehow missed your 'Sharia zones"...

I do not know if it was a lie, I simply posted it

Repeatedly.

Polonius3
23 Apr 2016  #127

"really, didn't know that"

The PC crowd as a rule are all self-proclaimed know-alls who muzzle free speech if they disagree with it. The leftist-liebral PC backers are essentially enemies of personal liberty, democracy and freedom of expresesion. If you dare disagree with them you'll immediately get labelled as a racist, sexist, homophobe, fascist, anti-Semite or similar. If you try to defend yourself they'll accuse you of using hate speech. It's best just to ignroe those horse-blinkered bigots altogether.

jon357
23 Apr 2016  #128

you'll immediately get labelled as a racist, sexist, homophobe, fascist, anti-Semite or similar.

I wonder why...

Polonius3
23 Apr 2016  #129

I wonder why

Becuase the prejudiced PC fanatics have no cogent arguments so they resort to insulting labels which they think will intimidate their opponents. Their opponents couldn't care less

jon357
23 Apr 2016  #130

labels

If the label fits..

opponents

Interesting that you're an opponent of anyone who opposes
racist, sexist, homophobe, fascist, anti-Semite


Polonius3
23 Apr 2016  #131

anyone who opposes

Only those who oppose decency, patriotism, freedom of speech and Christian family values.

jon357
23 Apr 2016  #132

You seem to hold some very extreme views, albeit ones not backed up by any substance. First you maliciously claim that the philanthropist George Soros "uses millions to fan mirgant crisis and destroy Europe", then you pretend that our continent is rife with 'Sharia zones' of which none exist, and now you're trying to defend the
racist, sexist, homophobe, fascist, anti-Semite

Sad to see something like that, and even sadder to see someone trying to turn the clock back.

Polonius3
23 Apr 2016  #133

racist, sexist, homophobe, fascist, anti-Semite

Some evidence. Once calling someone a bastard is not evidence. Many people occasionally use stronger language, so it's no big deal.
One can see you emulate your guru's Gestapo/NKVD tactics of storing posters' posts for years on end to have something on everyone to dredge out at the proper time. At leas you don't make those you're interrogating sit on an upside-down stool... in fact one orientation might find that enjoyable.

Polonius3
23 Apr 2016  #134

someone trying to turn the clock

You are trying to turn the clock forward to when the brave new LGBT world clashes directly with the Islamic takeover. Any betting on who will win?

jon357
23 Apr 2016  #135

Don't be silly Po. Moderation, liberalism and common sense win in the end. Providing we fight fascism where we find it.

Ironside
23 Apr 2016  #136

Providing we fight fascism where we find it.

Fighting fascism hardly is and never was a guarantee of good intension or a better offer by those who fight it. Soviet were fighting fascism to their bitter end and in the due curse killed more people than fascist and Nazism put together. Not to mention that they made otherwise prosperous areas on this globe depopulated, full of pollution, hunger and destitute..
So fighting fascism is not the best recommendation isn't?

jon357
23 Apr 2016  #137

Fighting fascism hardly is and never was a guarantee of good intension or a better offer

It's always and in every case better than the alternative. Not that the Soviets are still here - and PiS are playing into their successors' hands.

One reason that people like George Soros are so important. If we aren't vigilant, there's always a risk of authoritarian populism coming out on top. That risk is particularly acute in Poland and Hungary now.

I don't for a minute think that Po believes half of the extreme comments he makes, however he should be aware that he might not at all like the society he claims to wish for.

Polonius3
24 Apr 2016  #138

authoritarian populism

Authoritarian populism at least has a backbone and can be tough and two-fisted and therefore has a chance to stand up to the Islamic threat. Spineless, wimpy, fuzzy-brained, mealy-mouthed liberals don't stand a snowball's chance in hell and will be the first to get wiped off the face of the earth. It's obvious that their pervert wing will be the Muslims' initial tagret.

Polonius3
24 Apr 2016  #139

George Soro

An interesting case ot be sure. Some say Soros is mainly motivated by megalomania. After breaking the Bank of England, a sense of limitless power went to his head and he suddenly felt capable of remodelling the world along "open society" lines. Borders are to disapepar, natioanalities and races are to intercopulate and the result (according to him) will be a happy, gay, prosperous world where people will live happily ever after. Except opening borders has already caused a major crisis in Europe and there is no end in sight. Every utopia ends in death, destrcution andf chaos, and this one is no different. Today's heroes are those wise and brave enough to see through and oppose such mad-scientist schemes!

jon357
24 Apr 2016  #140

Some say

'Some say' all sorts of tosh.

Some say Soros is mainly motivated by megalomania

That or philanthropy - he donates to good causes.

Polonius3
24 Apr 2016  #141

good causes

Like destroying borders and opening the floodgates of uncontrolled immigration?
Never forget, LGBTQ will be Islam's first target!

Ironside
24 Apr 2016  #142

It's always and in every case better than the alternative.

Really? Pol-Pot, Stalin. Mao were better than Mussolini? In what Bolshevik shrine?
and PiS

Calling PiS or even implying fascism is like calling everybody how disagree with you fascists, it means an end of debate and start of a leftie loony circus on wheels.
One reason that people like George Soros are so important

International crooks, meddlers and whatnot. Some country ought to cage him and damn the consequences that dude and his supported should be thought a lesson.
That risk is particularly acute in Poland and Hungary now.

Of what exactly? Democracy? Authoritarian governments are all over Europe the only difference those are elitist regimens. Poland as other countries of the eastern Europe needs firstly to establish their won elite and gather resources and wealth before she can even consider indulge in social experiments that other richer countries of the EU can still afford.
Many issues you take for granted are not given. Bing liberal and being a progressive nutter divide only a hair thin difference - common sense. Poland doesn't have established elites as yet , that takes time. Liberal policy is costly and Poland can hardly afford it.

jon357
24 Apr 2016  #143

Calling PiS or even implying fascism

They are exactly that. Toxic, authoritarian and looking formly towards an unpleasant past.

Ironside
24 Apr 2016  #144

Here we are in a leftie loony circus on wheels. Further talk is redundant.

Chemikiem
26 Apr 2016  #145

You're in the UK, I'm in Warsaw, so surely you are better suited to explore the question.

These are your claims so the onus is on you to provide information as to where the no-go Sharia zones are in the UK, but I fully understand why you cannot link to any credible sources, because there aren't any.
Trying to downgrade these 'Sharia zones ' to 'rough areas', doesn't cut it either, just about every city in every country will have rough areas.
Anyway, I'm glad this has been cleared up, there is no evidence so I don't need to further waste my time on this thread.

Polonius3
9 Jun 2016  #146

Merged: Shadowy Soros, an evil genius, on the prowl

Usually he prefers to work through proxies such as NGOs (in Poland the Batory Foundation) that do his bidding, but occasionally the name of Hungarian Jew George Soros (pronounced: Shorosh) does surface in the media. He is known as the man who broke the Bank of England.
TVP news on Wednesday reproted that Soros, a billionaire financial speculator, had acquired a stake in Gazeta Wyborcza and was bankrolling Hillary Clinton's presidential bid. Like the evil genius or mad scientist of comic book days, Soros is using his billions to reshape the world into an "open society" devoid of indigenous culture, identity and national heritage. He's got a stable of well-paid PR experts to sugar-coat his scheme with nice-sounding slogans, hence some gullible souls fall for his multi-culti/diversity claptrap.

Ziemowit
9 Jun 2016  #147

Are you against an open society? A society may be open at the same retaining its indigenous culture.

Harry
9 Jun 2016  #148

Shadowy Soros, an evil genius

That sounds very much like a derogatory name for a public figure in Poland posted to provoke reactions; is it?

Polonius3
9 Jun 2016  #149

open society

Depends how one defines it. Opening floodgates to let in hordes of impoverished migrants and off-the-wall whackos is not necessarily a wise thing to do. There's no way Europe and America can offer prosperity to the billions of hand-to-mouth Asians, Africans and Latin Americans let alone allow them to immigrate.

Polonius3
9 Jun 2016  #150

derogatory nam

He's not a Polish public figure and coming from the coiner and purveyor of such terms as cat Duda, dud Duda, the Duck and Mr Maybach that complaint is downright ludicruous.
Insetad of trying to destroy existing societies, why doesn't Soros use his billions to aid the indigent in ther 3rd world? Instead he prefers to move things about on the chessboard of his sick imagiantion and gloat in the power his foturne gives him. He is generally viewed as a highly controversial if not sinister figure.


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