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TheWizard
24 Jun 2018  #1,021

Hey Johnny i knew trump would win when i saw Clinton with some foul mouthed hore at some gathering swearing and cussing while loose skin bits were hanging out. Can't remember who she was i think she may be some star or something. After seeing that i thought....trump wins.
Rich Mazur
24 Jun 2018  #1,022

Have you seen the latest population projections that point to a majority minority by 2044?

Yes, I have and it scares me. Not for me but for my granddaughters. The worst of it is that's it's irreversible once they become citizens. Then, the US will be Brazil.

My life is sweet right now. And, then, I wake up with that horrible image of the hordes crossing our "border" (what a joke) while our CBP guys just watch powerless. I cannot imagine a more frustrating job than that.
Chemikiem
24 Jun 2018  #1,023

They will call that report "Fake News" and continue to stick to the party line.

But of course! Anything negative about Trump is " Fake News ", but had that report been about Hillary there would have been pages of outrage and whinging from the usual suspects ;)
Ironside
24 Jun 2018  #1,024

You have a very simplistic approach to the issue.

Facts:
1.Trump hasn't done anything 'radical' nor anything that hasn't been seen in American politick before.
2. the Clintons have a shay past with many skeletons.
3. Reporting on them has been heavily skewed in favour of Clinton - i.e. media are not objective sources of info but active players on ideological, political and cultural front.

So a fake news expression is just an abbreviation for - enemy's propaganda.

the bottom reason for all that hate obsessions with Trump is a fact he doesn't bow to those progressive neo-Marxist mainstream narrative that dominated cultural and pollical discourse for quite some time.

It quite funny in a way - people from the middle class are armchair neo-Marxist revolutionaries that takes some brainwashing. On the other hand Marx was a middle class layabout his buddy Engels was a wealthy wastrel, Lenin came from well to do family that fell on hard times. So, there might be something in the water....
Joker
24 Jun 2018  #1,025

been about Hillary there would have been pages of outrage and whinging from the usual suspects ;)

Bla bla bla....And now the liberal limey comes by for her weekly lecture on how we should run our country.

Too bad you're not as concerned about the terrorism in LONDIONSTAN or it just doesn't exist according to you blind liberals! lol

You have a very simplistic approach to the issue.

No doubt, look where its coming from.

I wake up with that horrible image of the hordes crossing our "border"

I think after Trumps re-election he will really ramp up the deportations. MAGA!!
Rich Mazur
24 Jun 2018  #1,026

Deportations the way they are done today don't work. The deported scum, like a backed up toilet, has a way of returning. It's the wall, e-verify, and the draconian penalties that would. CBP and the National Guard is more than a joke. They actually are obligated to rescue the scum when the scum runs out of water in the middle of the Arizona desert.
johnny reb
24 Jun 2018  #1,027

It just shows how deep rooted the Marxist Liberals are entrenched in our school system.
They have dumbed down this new millennial generation to sheeple.
Take the KKK for example..........
Just look at how the Libtards on this forum alone use it as an EVIL weapon to scrutinize the Conservatives.
In fact the Liberals now want the KKK taken out of all history books because of the HATE that they have turned it into.
However if the TRUTH be told....... the KKK founders were Democrats and at the time most Blacks were Republicans !
How inconvenient for the Liberals to use the KKK as a HATE weapon if they taught the TRUTH to the millennial aye.
So they just want it deleted out of the school books. lol
Or how about the pictures that have hit the front pages of the Liberal Drive By Media News Papers this last week with children in gages at the border ???

These dumbed down millennial generation blames it on Trump.
No no no, those pictures were from 2013 & 2014 when obama was president AND this has ALWAYS been the policy BUT how convenient to blame it on Trump with fake pictures and fake news.

AND those "Mothers" were given a choice by signing a waiver to either go back with their children or stay and be separated from them.

What kind of mother would give up their children ??????
Come to find out after doing DNA tests that some of the children did not even belong to the "mother" but again........what an opportunity to make Trump look like the bad guy.

Trump supporters are liking him more and more by standing his ground and shoving the Lefts fake news and B.S. right back at them.

The poor Snowflakes are having meltdown after meltdown because Trump is exposing their lies one right after another.
The Left is hell bent on making a America a Socialistic country BUT thank God Trump is making the Left look like a bunch of HATEFUL Saul Alinski Marxist out to destroy America.

America stands right in the way of George Soros plan to have a One World Order.
(I wonder if old George will ever just up and die.)
And the U.E. is so jealous of what America has that they also want to destroy America by promoting Socialism that never has worked any place in the world or ever will.

Keep America Great and p ss on the yoyo's.
TRUMP 2020 !
Rich Mazur
24 Jun 2018  #1,028

What kind of mother would give up their children ??????

The same kind that would turn their daughters into prostitutes. This one is a record holder in depravity of the pimp, the mother, and the john. From the Chicago Sun-Times:

Christopher M. Bour, 40, pleaded guilty in January to paying Natisha Hillard $500 to have sex with a 4-month-old girl, an arrangement that lasted until the child was 18 months old. Hillard has admitted to being in the room with Bour and the baby on all but the last meeting when he paid her extra to be alone with the baby.

Hillard is the mother. That's what women are capable of. Abandoning a kid at the border is nothing.
TheOther
24 Jun 2018  #1,029

The worst of it is that's it's irreversible once they become citizens.

They are already citizens. Nonwhite Americans simply have more kids than white ones and the number of people with mixed backgrounds is increasing, that's all. The latter is to be expected in an immigrant country.

Abandoning a kid at the border is nothing.

Mothers were NOT given the choice to keep their children if they return to Mexico. That would go against policies of the Department of Homeland Security.

"Children whose parents are referred for prosecution will be placed with the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS), Office of Refugee Resettlement (ORR)."

cbp.gov/newsroom/zero-tolerance-immigration-prosecutions-family-fact-sheet

Trump about illegal immigrants:
"We cannot allow all of these people to invade our Country. When somebody comes in, we must immediately, with no Judges or Court Cases, bring them back from where they came."

So we'll take away the only punishment for illegally crossing the border? That would mean these people can now attempt to cross the border as often as necessary without the fear of ever being prosecuted. Another fine Trump idea...
Chemikiem
24 Jun 2018  #1,030

You have a very simplistic approach to the issue.

I was originally talking about a specific case, that of sacked cartoonist Bob Rogers. His new boss apparently disliked his depictions of Trump, and as such, fired him. Ziemowit linked to the report first, but until I commented on it, no-one else said a dicky bird. Grossly unfair and hopefully he'll be able to sue the paper concerned after a 25 year career with them. I remarked only that had that been about Hillary, pages of whining would have ensued.

the bottom reason for all that hate obsessions with Trump is a fact he doesn't bow to those progressive neo-Marxist mainstream narrative

Or perhaps some people just don't agree with his policies. I don't hate him and neither am I obsessed with him, but that somehow makes me a 'libtard' in

the eyes of the Trump supporters. Iron, we are are at 2 opposite ends of the scale again and you know we're not going to agree ;)

how we should run our country.

I can comment on any thread I choose to. It's not as if you and your alter-ego are exactly quiet about events in the UK, but I don't whine about you constantly banging on about it. Have you got anything to say regarding the sacking of Bob Rogers, or are you just here to moan and whinge without giving any input at all?
Ironside
24 Jun 2018  #1,031

And why are they smuggled into the US?

It's immaterial. The right question is why illegal aliens are not automatically removed from the US territory. That is a basic function of any country/state.

your family is starving.

You talking about the world from 30 or 40 years ago. Very few people are starving now unless there are politically created issues i.e. civil war or socialism/communism (look Venezuela).

the poor are slowly moving north

This all north - south cliché. Hey there are South Arabia and other extremely rich and wealthy countries. Somehow all those 'Syrian' refugees weren't heading there. Why? Because they knew damn well there guys with guns at the borders and they are not shy to use them on any person that would try to cross the border illegally.

So they rather take an arduous journey to Europe than go to those countries. The distance from Syria to Germany 2922km/1815miles while the distance from Syria to the Saudi Arabia is 1350 km/839 miles. So what gives?

Otherwise you have a sea between Africa and Europe and the only reason those people try that rout is because so called humanitarian human smuggles are being paid by Soros.

To sum it up. Your premises are wrong and you don't offer any solution to the problem beside some goodie two shoes waffle.
Ironside
24 Jun 2018  #1,032

was originally talking about a specific case, that of sacked cartoonist Bob Rogers.

All I can say is that many people lost their jobs or otherwise where harmed due to their pollical views. They stood against PC. progressive polices of their government and they paid for it. A good exmaple would be that of Tommy Robinson. He was deemed to be extremist and persecuted on some trump up charges of mortgage fraud or something similarly silly.

Second example Dishes D'Souza. He made a documentary film about Obama. FBI and persecution put him in jail for some trivial stuff. Something nobody in the history of the USA hadn't been jailed and only few were prosecuted. Mostly people were fined.

So, we have a examples of so called progressives or want not overstepping their power and using the state to go after their pollical opponents in order to silence or stop them. On the other hand we a have dude who had been fired by an employer.

I would say that those cases belong pretty much to the absolutely different category.

By the way:
Bobs claims - "When I had lunch with my new boss a few months ago, he informed me that the paper's publisher believed that the editorial cartoonist was akin to an editorial writer, and that his views should reflect the philosophy of the newspaper."

"Editorial director Keith Burris said that Rogers was fired because he was unwilling to "collaborate" on his cartoons:
We never said he should do no more Trump cartoons or do pro-Trump cartoons," said Mr. Burris. "For an in-house staff cartoonist, editing is part of it. Rob's view was, 'Take it or leave it.'""

"John Block - publisher of the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette:
Defended the controversial firing of its editorial cartoonist, saying he "hasn't been funny in a long time."
"He's just become too angry for his health or for his own good,""He's obsessed with Trump.""

I say they can run their newspaper the way they want.

we are are at 2 opposite ends of the scale again and you know we're not going to agree ;)

You're right there :) I say that many people are obsessed with Trump. You well may be in a different category. Still, whether or not you like it his polices are rational.
TheOther
24 Jun 2018  #1,033

This all north - south cliché.

Most third world countries are south of the developed world, so the south-north movement is certainly not a cliché. Migrants and refugees in Europe are mostly from the Middle East and Africa, illegals in the USA are mostly from Central and South America. That refugees/ migrants are not ending up in Saudi Arabia or Turkey has simple political reasons. These countries are quasi dictatorships that treat people like shi*t. Why would a refugee move from his home hellhole into another hellhole right next door? Doesn't make sense. The political correctness in Europe and America is another factor, of course, and is exploited by both smugglers and refugees/ migrants.

you don't offer any solution

What's your solution then? A war? A shoot-to-kill border that Rich Mazur is demanding? Internment camps?

You will not solve this problem by simply erecting a wall. The global population is exploding and at some point in time these people will have to go somewhere else or die. Guess where they will end up. The only solution in my eyes is to try and develop third world countries through global trade and manufacturing. That brings the overpopulation as well as the migrant/ refugee problem under control. Isolationism a la Trump is not the answer.

Very few people are starving now

Starving was only an example, Iron. How about drug cartels and gangs killing scores of innocent people like in Mexico and El Salvador? Terrorism like in Nigeria or Afghanistan. Climate change and expansion of the desert like in the sub Sahara. There are so many different reasons why families are forced to leave their home. They don't do it voluntarily in most cases.
johnny reb
24 Jun 2018  #1,034

guns at the borders and they are not shy to use them on any person that would try to cross the border illegally.

I am afraid that is where this is heading.
Turn our border into a practice bombing range the whole length of it and ten kilometers wide.
Good place to dispose of all of our old out dated weapons like napalm and bouncing jennies.
The problem would be solved within a week.
Better them then us with their murdering gangs, rapists, killer drugs and welfare drain on the American people that are coming in.
Rich Mazur
24 Jun 2018  #1,035

Turn our border into a practice bombing range the whole length of it and ten kilometers wide.

I second the motion.
What the touchy-feely open-borders fanatics will never acknowledge is that nobody would die at the shooting border from shooting, dehydration, snakes, of falling off the fence. Well, maybe the first 6 that didn't get the memo, and then - nothing. How many died at the DMZ? Very few because everybody knows what happens there.

"The only solution in my eyes is to try and develop third world countries through global trade and manufacturing" overlooks that, at any given time, world production and consumption is a zero-sum game; if they make it, we don't. Only a mindless liberal can offer this while the US deficit is close to a trillion. And, strangly, as with the so-called global warming, every parasite hellhole would be looking at the US, not China or EU, for those "investments". That is why they always want "the US to lead" - lead throwing money around.
TheOther
24 Jun 2018  #1,036

...if they make it, we don't.

Naive world view. Why on earth would we want to manufacture cheap plastic toys, flip-flops and t-shirts at a thousand times the cost of other countries? So that others don't? Ha ha ha. How many illegals do you want to let into the country to fill these jobs?

Only a mindless liberal can offer this while the US deficit is close to a trillion.

Only a mindless conservative can blow a gigantic hole into the budget for an unnecessary tax cut for the filthy rich and a ridiculous increase in military spending while at the same time imposing tariffs which are simply a hidden tax hike for American consumers. Can't wait for the day when Ryan announces cuts to Social Security benefits and Medicare to "balance" the budget. Suckers.
Rich Mazur
25 Jun 2018  #1,037

Why on earth would we want to manufacture cheap plastic toys, flip-flops and t-shirts at a thousand times the cost of other countries?

"Cheap plastic toys" are not where the money is. It's in the electronics, appliances, and cars.

"Thousand times", like God and Hitler, ends a conversation.
johnny reb
25 Jun 2018  #1,038

our old out dated weapons like napalm and bouncing jennies.

Nope, no Nam Vets here or they would have corrected me.
Actually they were called "bouncing betty's")
My way would save the most lives in the end.
The Bleeding Heart Liberals would have a fit though crying about not caring for starving over populated countries. Pffffft !
How about the 8 million in Yemen right now starving to death because of obama's war ???????
BUILD THAT BIG BEAUTIFUL WALL DONALD !
TheOther
25 Jun 2018  #1,039

"Cheap plastic toys" are not where the money is.

You said "...world production and consumption is a zero-sum game; if they make it, we don't." In other words, you want to manufacture cheap plastic crap as well.

"Thousand times", like God and Hitler, ends a conversation.

I knew that you wouldn't be able to discuss this topic without trying to weasel out.

Let's take the t-shirt example. A regular worker in a Bangladesh sweatshop earns about $65,- per month for 14 to 16 hours of work, 7 days a week. Translate that into US wages and you will most likely end at about 100 times higher labor costs in the USA. Add to that the much higher (remaining) operating costs and you will get pretty close to the factor I mentioned.
Joker
25 Jun 2018  #1,040

Fanatical Maxine Waters (D) California becomes completely unglued (again) and calls for demonstrators to harass trump cabinet members in public places.

theblaze.com/news/2018/06/24/watch-maxine-waters-comes-completely-unhinged-calls-for-public-harassment-of-trumps-cabinet

This shows a prime example of how unhinged the left has become, she a crazy lady and I cant believe ppl vote for this racist lunatic?

Turn about is fair play Maxine, your time will come!

BUILD THAT BIG BEAUTIFUL WALL DONALD !

Build a wall between Arizona and California

foxnews.com/us/2018/03/22/build-that-wall-between-arizona-and-california-congresswoman-says.html

Anything to keep the invasion from spreading East

Well, maybe the first 6 that didn't get the memo, and then - nothing. How many died at the DMZ?

After the first couple of warning shots most of the wetbacks would get the message and stop illegally entering our country.

Trump should call the Army into SoCal and physically remove these deadbeat illegals off our streets and plop them back across the border and let Mexico deal with them.They had over a 1000 miles to stop the heard, but they encourage this assault upon our sovereignty.

We should cut off all foreign aid to Mexico as well.
Rich Mazur
25 Jun 2018  #1,041

We should cut off all foreign aid to Mexico as well.

Once a year, we should send Mexico an invoice for all services rendered to the Mexican scum Mexico aided and abetted in invading the US. Plus a markup.

We should stop giving away money we don't have to anybody.

BTW, did you notice how ugly these invaders are? Where is Salma Hayek and women like her? For her I would make an exception.
Dirk diggler
25 Jun 2018  #1,042

Guess where they will end up.

Who cares? Let them develop their own countries instead of leeching off the two thousand year advancements of Europeans.

The only solution in my eyes is to try and develop third world countries through global trade and manufacturing.

That's been tried for decades and tens of billions of dollars. Trump said he'd end this practice because at least he's smart enough to see that nothing ever comes of giving turd soldiers free stuff except demands for more free stuff. It only ends up enriching a few people who are smart enough to embezzle the money while the rest of the population is still living in mud shacks and popping out 7 kids. If these people are barely literate, don't know how to operate an indoor toilet or a 3 way light switch, and still cant figure out you shouldnt have kids you cant feed, what makes you think giving them computers, airplanes, cnc drills, building them research labs is going to help them? The most advanced piece of tech all of them know how to use is an ak47.

What happened when the us gave the Afghan army a bunch of hummers and equipment? They ******* tore everything apart and sold it. These genius goat herders thought it'd be better to strip a 100k hummer for a few hundred in scrap metal rather than have a proper patrol vehicle. These people are so far behind the rest of the world its not even funny. At least in poorer countries like the Philippines India China people actually want to work and advance themselves and their country. They don't come to other countries just to live on handouts. But not the Muslim migrants and africans. They just want free stuff. I can't count how many times a grown ass migrant has been interviewed saying 'me no like job, no job no job'
Rich Mazur
25 Jun 2018  #1,043

That's been tried for decades and tens of billions of dollars.

I wonder if he will even read it. Forget understanding.
TheOther
25 Jun 2018  #1,044

That's been tried for decades and tens of billions of dollars.

Yes, and it has been quite successful. There are plenty of examples around the world how people have been lifted out of poverty. You are just making the mistake to expect that a hellhole turns into a first world country overnight. That's not going to happen. The real reason behind Trump's "strategy" is something else. Rich said it already: "if they make it, we don't". In other words: greed. Trump's bosses have become so greedy that they can't stand the thought that third world countries might have a few industries here and there that sell stuff to the US while the people in these countries are too poor to buy American crap.

What happened when the us gave the Afghan army a bunch of hummers and equipment?

Why are we still there anyway? Or in Iraq? Or in Syria? The military needs to get rid of old equipment so that they can spend the additional billions that Trump through at their feet.

I wonder if he will even read it. Forget understanding.

When you are grown up and will finally be able to answer a few questions from above, you may have an opinion, weasel... :)
Rich Mazur
25 Jun 2018  #1,045

You are just making the mistake to expect that a hellhole turns into a first world country overnight.

Hellholes are hellholes because hellholes are populated by racially subpar a-holes. Just look at Israel and its neighbors. Sure, Israel got a lot of US money. So did Egypt. And to some extent Palestinians. What prevented Arab countries from "investing" in "Palestine"? Simple. They know that their investment will be stolen before the sun goes down. How did Arafat manage to be a billionaire? Saving in his 401(k)?
TheOther
25 Jun 2018  #1,046

What prevented Arab countries from "investing" in "Palestine"? Simple.

Yes, simple. Since Palestine gets either slowly annexed (West Bank) or bombed into oblivion (Gaza) by Israel, why would anybody in his right mind invest in such a region?

hellholes are populated by racially subpar a-holes

Were you one of Trump's "good people" in Charlotteville by any chance?
Rich Mazur
25 Jun 2018  #1,047

Since Palestine gets either slowly annexed (West Bank) or bombed into oblivion (Gaza) by Israel

Now. What about since 1948? The US dumped a ton of money on Europe since 1945. Where was the Arab aid to Palestine at the same time?

Let's get to the bottom without history lessons: the average Jewish IQ is twice that of the average Palestinian. I could put 100 Jews on one deserted island and 100 Palestinians on an island close to the first one (you know, so will not be debating natural resources and the weather) and after 10 years things will be different. Guess which island will be more prosperous. If in doubt, compare North America and Europe in 1492.
TheOther
25 Jun 2018  #1,048

Where was the Arab aid to Palestine at the same time?

You might want to remember who was in control of the area right after WW2 and who decided to create the state of Israel without asking the people who were already living there. It resulted in several wars, as we all know.

the average Jewish IQ is twice that of the average Palestinian

Rather than returning to the race theories of pre-WW2 Europe, don't you think that education might have something to do with it, and money to afford that education and to build a good school system?
johnny reb
25 Jun 2018  #1,049

What about since 1948?

Since then the Democratic party in America has slowly become the "Brown Shirts" of America and today are totally out of control.
That's why when Trump puts his foot down on them, to Make America Great Again, they start squealing Impeach - Impeach - Impeach, like little pigs and have melt downs.

They can't seem to get that America is not nor do we want to become Socialists.
I would be in favor in starting to deport them along with the illegals since they both are an unnecessary pain in the ass to what America stands for.
Rich Mazur
25 Jun 2018  #1,050

Let's take the t-shirt example. A regular worker in a Bangladesh sweatshop earns about $65,- per month for 14 to 16 hours of work, 7 days a week.

Nice try. Fail.
Let's take the Nike shoes example. A regular worker in China makes $2 per hour. Those shoes cost a buck to make. Shipping and the markup for the Chinese factory - another 2. In the US stores - 100, or is it 200?

BTW, as always, you forgot to include the cost of unemployment benefits and medical care for the unemployed - all on the US taxpayers' dime. And the pathology that comes with unemployment: family breakdown, crime, imprisonment, etc. Working with just one side of the ledger is sooo much fun at the Nike's boardroom.

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