75 Years of Israel and the War

With whom actually?

Do you know of Palis you would want to and trust with negotiations?

There is only Hamas!

And Hamas doesn't want peace....they don't fight for a Palestine, they fight to kill all Jews!

It is said they chose to massacre Jews now because they want to stop peace negotiations between Israel and Saudi Arabia....what now?

They had that before 1967.
Plus, you don't negotiate with those who murdered your family. You find them and you kill them or they will be more successful next time and kill you. Duh!

And don't forget the Minsk Accords, little boy...


Amen. It was a deliberate provocation and deliberately cruel.

...and they will do so again!

Hamas hates every possibility of a peace....it would mean them losing influence and power!

If peace should ever have a chance Hamas must be destroyed....and that can only happen with the destruction of their network in Gaza. Will there be arab civilian dead, surely...no way to avoid that.

But there is no other way!

Based on some posts here, I am still not sure what's worse - naive or stupid.


By now, everyone in Israel knows it.

Neither.....with some it's just pure plain anti-semitism....dead Jews are still preferable!

OK. I am still not sure what's worse - naive, stupid, or evil...

Darling, stop using such stupid arguments, coz you make a fool of yourself. We like Jews but we reject Israeli blind nationalism coz it is the same as the nationalism of various antisemites like Nazi Germans or far right Poles.


Yes, coz it was Israeli policy to promote Hamas and diminish other Palestinian leaders and elites. I just read an article by an Israeli expert who directly blames the rise of Hamas on Netanjahu gov.

The problem is that Hamas thinks the same about Israel.

"blind nationalism"????

Your villages just got invaded?.....houses burnt with whole families inside....babies murdered....women raped....and you talk of "blind nationalism"???


Isis surely thought the same about Israel, the US and the West too....well...now they are all dead and the world is better off.

Yes, I know what I said.


You constantly ignore what lead to it. Israeli nationalism which prevented Israel from giving up some parts of the occupied land to Arabs so that they could create their dream Palestinian State.

And I know that babies will be murdered on both sides until Israelis acquiesce to create such a state.

Is that so:

Saudi envoy links Israel normalisation talks to land-for-peace offer

reuters.com/world/middle-east/saudi-envoy-links-israel-normalisation-talks-land-for-peace-offer-2023-09-26/

Saudi Arabia's first ambassador to the Palestinians described a decades-old Arab land-for-peace offer on Tuesday as a pillar of any normalisation of ties with Israel, an apparent attempt to signal that Riyadh has not abandoned the Palestinian cause.

Expectations of a landmark U.S.-brokered Saudi-Israeli deal have grown over the last week, though the timing and terms remain murky....

Peace talks had been underway in September....maybe even a new land-for-peace treaty....

But Hamas couldn't have that....

You should blame these radical arabs for the absence of peace, FOR EVERY MURDERED BABY....they surely would have their country in the mean time...Israel has been willing, but these arabs not! They prefer to kill Jews!

ISIS had a delusion of grandeur.

...with you to guarantee that they will never again attack Israel. You are really funny...
They want an independent state the way American Indians want one - as long as get welfare and things from their neighbor.


I feel sorry for you, BB. Being factual and logical here is a major drag...

Nah....I need to vent my anger.....bestest way is here in this forum! :)

(I will admit that, an angry German is not a nice German!)

Yes. I could easily imagine how you furiously execute those Arabs yourself.


It is a lie, Israel never intended to agree to land transfer in the occupied West Bank.
Besides, calm down.

Hmmm....I dunno....I never killed someone in my life.....

Your current mental condition suggests you are willing to gain this new experience in your life..... :):):)

Yes, you and BB rely on manipulated or fake info which whitens Israelis and blackens Arabs. That is why I have to call you partial, biased, prejudiced, partisan supporters of every crime that Israeli military animals commit on Arab civilians.

youtu.be/6PO-vbQpp84

I don't expect anyone here to watch this video. I did. It's depressing to see how unprepared Israelis were on their day of infamy. But I can give you my conclusion from it...

Gaza must go. Period.

If most posters here suggested it before, you would claim that it must stay, only for the sake of arguing with them. hahahaha You are a really amasing person. :):):)

You have just shown your true left wing and anti semitic colours...... you should be ashamed of yourself....
I accuse you of being biased, prejudiced and a supporter of every crime committed by muslim animals!

Okay....now tell me....which info do you mean?

No, I am not an exhibitionist. Stop projecting, darling. :):):).


I should if I could but I can`t so I shan`t. hahahahaha

When you claimed Israelis wanted to reach peace while Arabs didn`t. That was a lie coz peace can only be accomplished when Israelis give up land for the Palestinian state. But they have refused to do it for 50 years now so saying they want peace is a lie.

Erm.....

On 19 June 1967, Israel offered "to give up Sinai and the Golan in exchange for peace,"[3] an offer that was rejected in September 1967 by the Arab States by the Khartoum Resolution, which became famous for the "Three No's": "no peace with Israel, no recognition of Israel, no negotiations with it..."[4].

The first application of the land for peace formula was Israel's peace treaty with Egypt in 1979, under which Israel withdrew from the Sinai as part of a comprehensive peace agreement facilitated by economic assistance to both sides from the United States.

In 1994 a similar comprehensive agreement invoking resolution 242 formed the basis of the Israel Jordan peace treaty whereby both sides redeployed to their respective sides of the agreed international boundary.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Land_for_peace

And in September this year, shortly before the Hamas massacres, there had been talks between Israel and Saudi Arabia.....about peace.....and maybe even land.....

You know Pawian....till now I truly believed you were informed about this region.....or at least interested with about who did when what....but it seems you have no idea what you are talking about!

I did.


It is..
But as you say,Gaza must go and with it Hamas.Israel's Sayeret Matkal,their equivalent to the UK's SAS and just as good will be at the forefront.

They will destroy Hamas and Gaza....... but just wait for the global leftie backlash against Israel.....Jesus wept!.....a deliberate blasphemy....

Don`t be silly. Sinai to Egypt and Golan to Syria. Where are Palestinians in it????


Very good. :):):) Israel and Jordan. Where are Palestinians in it?????


Yes, I know. You are catching at a razor to compensate to Israelis all the crimes that Germans committed on Jews in the past. But I already told you - you fall from one extremism into another.


Stop projecting. :):):)

Israel left Gaza in 2005!

In 2005, 21 Israeli settlements in the Gaza Strip were unilaterally dismantled and Israeli settlers and army evacuated from inside the Gaza Strip.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_disengagement_from_Gaza

Without any peace treaty Israelis LEFT Gaza to the arabs.....to democratic elections.....and the world paid more humanitarian aid into this region than to any other region.

Nobody got more money and support than these arabs.

Nearly 20 years to build something out of Gaza....make it a home....

How would you call that? I call that an error in judgement! Arabs can't be trusted!

Egypt and Syria.....


Israel and Jordan,

You must be a very stupid person to not comprehend this.....

Very good question that can only be answered with "they are all the same". Racist scum do as racist scum do.

Forming relations with murderous dictatorships is no way to conduct a foreign policy. Creating an apartheid state is no way to conduct a domestic policy. Of course the US is the great arbiter of right and wrong thats why they recognise the annexation if the Golan heights.