75 Years of Israel and the War

No, they didn't, you liar. 🤮

.....and shouldn't you then ask for a more "wiser" leadership in Moscow? Not one who invades Ukraine to avenge these murders and rescue the Russians???

You hypocrite!

Exactly :)))


Yup :)

I think you misread me.

The leadership in the Kremlin was "too wise".

For 8 years Ukraine dug fortifications, turning frontline cities into citadels. Trenches reinforced with concrete, bunkers with walls 40 cm thick, perfectly "sighted" approaches...

NATO trained their army.

Javelins were transferred.

Intelligence was shared.

If we stepped over our "conscience", and just did what we had to do in 2014 - there would be no Ukraine now.

No, I don't think so!

The worst of the arab supporter are IMHO those who never had/have a problem to support revenge and invasion and expulsions if it were their own people!

See Germans or now, Ukrainians....there everything goes, for many reasons.....but when Israel defends itself it should suddenly be inhumanly "humane" and just turn the other cheek so to not hurt these poor, poor, of course innocent arabs!

You know, that is one source of pride for me as a German...we did the worst and paid the price....even many innocents paid the price....but we did suck it up and never tried to play the victim card afterwards!

That's why these arabs don't get my respect....just spineless cowards!

Strange thing to be proud about.


Nazi Germany was a military juggernaut that scared the sh!t out of everybody on the continent and then the world. The Arabs got faced with these same superpower armies after WW2 and delivered a fait accompli in re: to Israel. The Jews that settled Israel had INFINITELY more experience and support in war, than any of those impoverished states had.

It's the same thing as making a big deal out of Switzerland being located around Lake Victoria and kicking the ass of Tanzania, Uganda, Rwanda, and Kenya (total pop much higher than 100M).

Israel is 10,000 times more powerful than Gaza, than Russia is more powerful than Ukraine.

Talk about David and Goliath.

Is it?

There is a saying here "Wer austeilt muß auch einstecken können!"

("Whoever gives it out must also be able to take it"?)

The arabs seemingly can't take it!


Only when they actually USE their power.....if they lay down as demanded they would be soon all dead!

Come on, the core of the conflict has moved to Gaza now when Israeli animals are shelling and threatening it with the invasion.


Yes, yes, exactly. BB has gone crazy sort of.


There is none yet. Western countries are warning Israel not to push with the expulsion coz it will have dire consequences. Russia was also warned and didn`t listen. That is why putinist Russians are animals. Let`s see how big animals bibi Israelis are.

Which dire consequences? Beheaded babies? Raped girls? Kidnapped old grandmoms? Which ones exactly?

Yup, that's Crnogorac3 and Bobko in this thread.


That's exactly the case with RuSSia vs Ukraine and RuSSia vs Chechnya. Goliath vs Davids.

No, it's not because this meaningless phrase is not specific enough to be included in a treaty.


This brings me to a new definition of insanity:
Insane - one who expects Israel to voluntarily shrink itself to the pre-1967 borders.
Also:
Suicidal moron: Israel voluntarily shrinking itself to pre-1967 borders.

I really have a strong feeling that you are projecting what you feel about what is happening in Germany on to the Israel-Gaza conflict. It is really not the same.

Nobody has a realistic plan towards destroying Israel. Everything now is concentrated around restoring 67 borders, international Jerusalem, open Holy Sites, and open borders.

As I mentioned in many posts, several Arab states are seeking out Israel as an ally.

Russia and China have their own beneficial relationships with Israel.

The US position is obvious.

Your maximalist outcries don't make a lot of sense.

For example beheaded babies. Israeli animals can do it easily. Do you know how???

Restoring old borders for what? Rewarding Hamas for their massacres? Open borders for more infiltrationf of terrorists??? You are kidding, right?

The only time for peace talks will come when Hamas is destroyed and the arabs actually want to live in peace with Israel....I don't see that anytime soon!

As long as they hate the Jews more than they love their own children, there won't be any peace!

Many have unrealistic plans for destroying Israel. A distinction without a difference to the Israelis.
One of those plans was executed by Hamas on Oct 7, 2023 - the date Israelis will remember as was as we will 9/11 or Dec 7.


In progress...The virgins are hot and waiting...

Amasing. Now it occured to me you have no real views on anything whatsoever. You only observe the tides and winds in the forum and always go against the ones which forum majority adopts. .. :):):)


Together with Gaza and 200.000 civilian casualties??? Do you think Israeli animals will go for that??

The whole world, except for the US, considers this illegal occupation. So does the UN.

...and Israelis don't give a fu*ck since they know the alternative from experience...


No, idiot...The Allies destroyed the SS and Gestapo without executing everybody in both organizations. Just the heads...

I hope they will!

They shouldn't repeat the failures from the past....leaving the arabs to themselves....then it is only a matter of time when the next massacres will happen. Never Again!


As long as the US are firm, and now Germany, Israel can give a ****....the "whole world" would only watch when Jews are massacred again...the "whole world" can shove it!

Killing several million innocent Jews who never put you inside a ghetto or attempted to blockade you, has really warped your perspective.

Curious.

Darling, they didn`t coz it was impossible to execute 0.5 million rascals so don`t use it as an argument, it is primary school level logic.

PS. I hope you know why you have just been darlinged??? Just yes or no is enough. hahahaha


Come on, that is a very animalistic approach. :):):)

Utterly unfair and without merit. BB has a right to discuss Gaza without apologizing for the sins of others.

Why "curious"?

Should I support the arabs with their killing, raping, maiming, and kidnapping of jewish civilians?

Would you find that more logical and understandable for me as a German?

No, you shouldn`t.
But you also shouldn`t support Israelis with their killing, starving, expelling Arab civilians. Simple.

Now that we know what Israel's response should not be, please tell us what Israel should do from Oct 7 on. You have my full attention...

Tja, if the Germans wouldn't had voted for and supported the Nazis till the end you surely would had more sympathy for their innocent victims of allied guns and bombers and polish expulsions too, right?

So simple!

You wish to gain atonement for German crimes on Jews during WW2. Fine. There is only one problem:
You should understand that unconditionally accepting what Israelis are doing now you fall from one extreme (German made Holocaust of Jews) to another (Israeli made massacre of Arabs).

What are they doing right now?

They even have warned these arabs to leave....they even have given up the element of surprise before their ground invasion, a decision that will surely cost more israeli lives.

Israel shows that they care more for arab lives than their own leadership, who wants them to stay, who needs them as human shields!

I already said it several times here. Start negotiations with Palestinians about creating an independent Palestinian state in Gaza, West Bank and East Jerusalem. How simple.

BYW, you prefered to keep silent about being darlinged. So, let me remind you that whenever you call me names, I will turn the other cheek and be gentle on you with my darling, coz I love you like a brother. hahahahaha

What should Israel do from Oct 7 on?