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75 Years of Israel and the War



Bratwurst Boy
19 Dec 2023  #1621

The massacres from 07th October had been like an earthquake....with shockwaves deep into Europe....felt especially strongly here in Germany.

You can ignore it or laugh about it as you want, but the relationship between european natives and immigrated muslims will never be the same....what has been sometimes sympathy, but mainly indifference, even ignorance is developing into distrust and hostility.

So yes, that Gaza-conflict has a huge impact on our "domestic racism"....

jon357
19 Dec 2023  #1622

felt especially strongly here in Germany.

Why?

european natives

Some of whom are Muslim, and many more black and brown.

our "domestic racism"....

Fortunately most there aren't on the racist fringe.

Bratwurst Boy
19 Dec 2023  #1623

Why?

Because of our muslims! Of course our media took to the streets and asked muslims what they think about what just happened on the same day....and one of the first (who totally shocked the german public) was a muslim woman at a market who couldn't contain her glee and happiness about the murdered women and children...openly and loudly into the camera wishing for more of that.

That news bit came only very shortly as most Germans were still sitting shocked and devastasted in front of their TV's....the blood of these often horribly murdered Jews still warm....and then THAT!

And that was only the start....next, at the same day, came the cheering and spontaneous gathering of happy muslims in Berlin, distributing sweets to everybody who wanted some (Baklava I believe) to honor the occasion...again...loudly and happily...

And so on...again for an unbelieving, shocked german public to see!

Of course the huge silence by most of our left played a big part in that....and made sure the support for this special left is sinking....and their screams of "islamophobia" and "racism" are now quite worth- and useless, they mean nothing anymore to most people!

Things have changed, I tell you! *shrugs*

jon357
19 Dec 2023  #1624

Because of our muslims

Germans who follow Islam?

distributing sweets to everybody who wanted some (Baklava I believe) to honor the occasion...again...loudly and happily...

So what?

Whenever I'm in Berlin, I see signs saying "refugees welcome".

This thread however is about the current Middle East crisis, not Germany.

Novichok
19 Dec 2023  #1625

Fortunately most there aren't on the racist fringe.

Hey, stupid, Russia in 1917 mostly wasn't Bolshevik, either, and in just a few years the USSR happened. In 1937, Germany wasn't NAZI and death camps happened.

If you are too stupid to decode what I just wrote, here is the simplified version: It takes a tiny but well-organized minority to terrorize the majority into compliance.

That's what the faggots did in the US way back and now the transgender freaks replicating their success. 99% are afraid of 1% - including US Supreme Court black robes.

Remember Boston? Two Muslim aholes terrorized that city into submission...

jon357
19 Dec 2023  #1626

NAZI

Nobody cares what you 'think', a-hole.

Bratwurst Boy
19 Dec 2023  #1627

So what?

Okay....maybe we just have different morals...

You seem to find nothing problematic with cheering and honoring baby killers and rapists....well...most people do, thankfully!

But yeah....lets go back to the thread topic...

Novichok
19 Dec 2023  #1628

Nobody cares what you 'think', a-hole.

Hey, stupid, show me where I wrote "I think".

But yeah....lets go back to the thread topic...

The topic is what happened AND then our reaction to it.

jon357
19 Dec 2023  #1629

cheering and honoring baby killers and rapists

Who's "cheering and honouring"?

Pretending to misunderstand simple comments is not edifying.

we just have different morals...

People are people; all are equal, and the growing number of Germans who have roots in the Middle East is something you can't personally stop.

And right now, in the current Middle East crisis, there are problems on both sides. I don't see any swift resolution.

Novichok
19 Dec 2023  #1630

there are problems on both sides.

There are no "both sides". Israel forced all Jews out of Gaza in 2005. In return, they got 10/7.
Only a sex pervert can refer to rape and murder as having both sides.

Bratwurst Boy
19 Dec 2023  #1631

Who's "cheering and honouring"?

Muslims!

"Wide Swaths of Arab-Speaking Population Harbor Sympathies for Terrorists"

spiegel.de/international/germany/muslim-anti-semitism-in-berlin-wide-swaths-of-arab-speaking-population-harbor-sympathies-for-terrorists-a-f7c73040-7be1-4509-9150-810266818f49

....Over the weekend, pro-Palestinian demonstrators in the Berlin district of Neukölln celebrated the massacre of Israeli civilians perpetrated by the terror organization Hamas. On Saturday evening, there was rioting, with anti-Israeli youth attacking police...

Would you call "SPIEGEL" far right?

and the growing number of Germans who have roots in the Middle East is something you can't personally stop.

Na ja....I would never say never.....there is that nice german saying: "Wo ein Wille ist da ist auch ein Weg!" (Where there's a will there's a way) And the will is definitely growing....

I don't see any swift resolution.

Thing is, the longer that conflict goes on as it momentarily does, the more that will grows!

jon357
19 Dec 2023  #1632

Muslims

And many certainly aren't.

And the will is definitely growing.

What "will"?

the longer that conflict goes on

It's been going on for longer than you or I have been alive and will not end any time soon.

Bratwurst Boy
19 Dec 2023  #1633

What "will"?

To lower the numbers....it seems muslims are only bearable in tiny numbers. The moment they take over streets and even whole districts they start misbehaving and forcing all others under their rules.

European countries take note and start to stop them from immigrating...making it harder for them to gain citizenship....the new word is "remigration"....Denmark has started to destroy mainly-muslim ghettoes to force them to integrate more....and so on....

nytimes.com/2018/07/01/world/europe/denmark-immigrant-ghettos.html

Everywhere in Europe the far right is gaining substantially and even winning at elections....thank the muslims for that!

jon357
19 Dec 2023  #1634

To lower the numbers

Of those arriving?

It's a bit late for that...

the far right

Not where I'm from, fortunately.

Bratwurst Boy
19 Dec 2023  #1635

It's a bit late for that...

....so they keep saying! :)

Okay....back to the Israel-topic!

jon357
19 Dec 2023  #1636

so they keep saying

There is really nothing you can do about that.

Bratwurst Boy
19 Dec 2023  #1637

Oh....not me....

But try to imagine a Europe in 5 years, maximal 10 years from now on....there are no leftist, open-borders, pro-muslim parties anymore in any government....even the EU council in Brussels reflects that....it is a rightist EU now, with mainly anti-muslim nationalists innit...who now have the will and the public support to stop muslim immigration, to end their privileges like kosher butchering, banning headscarfs and hijabs, to make it really, really uncomfortable to live their faith, especially openly showing their terrorist support...

Because of the rising distaste it's already becoming harder for them to get jobs and apartements...you heard/read about the complaints about european anti-muslim racism....and that is not getting better, for sure!

I could imagine muslims leaving voluntarily....or "helped to leave" in masses....of course all speculation now, but we will see...

Novichok
19 Dec 2023  #1638

it seems muslims are only bearable in tiny numbers.

This applies to everything abnormal. LGBTs, arsenic, mercury, rat poison,..

the public support to stop muslim immigration,

They can stop Muslim migration from the outside.

The migration from within - aka new-born babies - cannot be stopped and, at the current rate, it will out-populate the host who stupidly admitted this cancer way back.

Let's call it a long-fused bomb...

jon357
19 Dec 2023  #1639

there are no leftist, open-borders, pro-muslim parties anymore in any government

I doubt that.

nationalists

Generally so repellant and unpalatable that they cause an action wherever they appear.

to make it really, really uncomfortable to live their faith

Why would anyone do that?

"helped to leave" in masses

Pretty well impossible for many many reasons. Can you imagine Muslim Germans "helped to leave". Would you support it or oppose it?

People just don't like the far right.

Bratwurst Boy
19 Dec 2023  #1640

The migration from within -

.....when that happens I would like to revisit this talk with Jon....and ask him how he estimates the situation of his leftist and gay and trans friends now...and if he now at last will admit that all his tolerance for these intolerant people was plainly the wrong way!

People just don't like the far right.

They like the muslims even less....that makes for lotsa surprising surveys and election results currently!

jon357
19 Dec 2023  #1641

when that happens

It won't.

We win every war.

You missed the question:

Can you imagine Muslim Germans "helped to leave". Would you support it or oppose it?


Novichok
19 Dec 2023  #1642

I doubt that.

Nobody cares what you doubt. Prove him wrong or STFU.

Why would anyone do that?

To undo the damage the ruling mobs inflicted on the natives who were never asked if they liked the idea of allowing foreign scum into their towns.

Bratwurst Boy
19 Dec 2023  #1643

You missed the question:

Nah...not me....I'm to old for that....

jon357
19 Dec 2023  #1644

@Bratwurst Boy
And I suspect those people who have the banners saying "refugees welcome" might also have something to say.

Novichok
19 Dec 2023  #1645

I would like to revisit this talk with Jon....and ask him

If he and others like him could think, they would bang sockets, not plugs.

who have the banners saying "refugees welcome"

They have those banners out there because they don't get the monthly bills to pay for the scum.
Send them a 20-buck invoice every month and watch those banners disappear...

Bratwurst Boy
19 Dec 2023  #1646

And I suspect those people who have the banners saying "refugees welcome"

Yeah.....there is a discussion about that....I think I'm not to far off when I say, that won't work nowadays anymore....no big crowds gathering to greet the oncoming people anymore either....it is now widely seen as a big error!

There was that little arab girl posing for that quite famous photo with Merkel....well, it is now known that this now grown up woman also is a terrorist supporter and speaking out openly against Israel....what a disappointment....not to repeated!

Novichok
19 Dec 2023  #1647

Those banners have the invisible part.
The visible part is: "Refugees Welcome".
The invisible part: Not in My House!
...and down below:
"Not on My Dime!"

Bratwurst Boy
19 Dec 2023  #1648

they would bang sockets, not plugs.

Erm....translation??? :)

Lenka
19 Dec 2023  #1649

Reference to gay people...again

Bratwurst Boy
19 Dec 2023  #1650

...my dictionary is no help!


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