75 Years of Israel and the War

Haunting Hamas....?

100% correct!


This is so true.

Israel is a Jewish land and will remain so.If the Muslims like it,as many do, they can stay and prosper, if not they can leave and live in poverty in some Islamic Arab state.

Breaking news........too early to say who did this but the bombs look so powerful that I can only conclude that this is an attack by Israel.

Watch this guy....he know's what he is talking about.

Israel Refutes Pope's Claim It Killed 2 Civilians in Gaza Church
STFW? Why do you even bother with this ahole?

Hey, pope, you want perfection? Blow your brains out. They have perfection in Heaven.

Because Christians remain neutral in this conflict for now, but that could change quickly.

....but seriously, this Pope isn't neutral....I would call him a leftist!

And is this war between right and left?

....seems that way!

Right = pro Israel / pro West

Left = pro Hamas / anti-West

It isn't though; it has very different dimensions to that.

Really? Did you see the last episode at Polish RIGHT wing politician display?

....nope, can't say I have! :)

I'm understandably seeing things more from my german point of view. And here even those leftists who know how to officially disapprove of the recent terrorist inhuman baby-killings are quick with the "....yes but Israel" kind of relativations and their always easily given understanding and support for the poor, oppressed third world Arabs (oppressed by the mean West of course)....*shrugs*

It's just unsavory! Especially when they use that "sympathy" to justify and never stop the financing of Hamas (in the name of starving kids and hospitals and schools and all that humbug of course)....

Or maybe they disapprove of baby-killings no matter which side does it?

British government actually said yesterday that Israel should be careful about civilian casualties.

...probably fearing their imported muslims....London seems to be full of them!

That's another point....the number of muslims in western countries seems to have reached a "critical mass" - point. Especially as the majority seems to be loud supporter of Hamas and Co.

Supported by the western left!!!

Things will have to change...Islamophobia becomes a real election campaign topic, pro and contra!

Change that for Jews and you are back in the 1930's.
Scary you don't see this.

When were you last in the UK?


Perhaps he does...

That's a similiar kind of relativation as "Gaza = Holocaust"!

I don't see it because there is nothing to see....the german Jews had been the most assimilated, living here for 1500 years...no jewish bombs of christmas markets or concert halls or bus stations...no protestations for jewish laws to rule Germany aka founding of a german Caliphate...with jewish women walking one step behind their men, hidden in clothing.....no huge demonstrations showing their hate of Germany and the West and disrespecting (urinating on pork) our culture/traditions....nothing of that kind.

Just today an arab got judged for going into a gym with a knife and killing innocent people....he statet "he just wanted to kill as many as possible"....also another thing that Jews never did!

focus.de/politik/deutschland/ich-wollte-so-viele-wie-moeglich-toeten-messerattacken-in-duisburg-islamist-27-zu-hoechststrafe-verurteilt_id_259511500.html

...Eight months after the murder attacks in Duisburg, an avowed IS supporter was sentenced to life in prison. He says he hopes for paradise.

The Düsseldorf Higher Regional Court sentenced the 27-year-old to life imprisonment on Tuesday for murder and attempted murder. The court also noted the particular gravity of his guilt, which practically rules out release after a minimum period of 15 years in prison. It also imposed subsequent preventive detention.

Defendant showed no remorse
....

And just yesterday a survey made the medial waves in Germany...but not surprising for me, actually:

...Survey: 42 percent of Berliners think the number of Muslims in Germany is too high. 58 percent see Islam as a misogynistic religion and 54 percent as a "backward" religion. 36 percent assume that Muslims are planning to Islamize the West step by step....

tellerreport.com/life/2023-12-18-anti-muslim-attitude-widespread-in-berlin.BkmYrD0aIp.html

I would rather guess the numbers might be much higher....


Another puzzle for me....leftist avoiding reality....supporting Islam and Islamists....as if they were comrades...brothers-in-arms....fighting together for....WHAT???

Do you really have the same goals?

And if they weren't what happened would have been justified?

What Hamas did was atrocious and Israel has every right to retaliate.

What you are doing is not that tough. You are basically justifying any action against any Muslim!

Jon....in these times I don't have to be physically "there".....the last weeks have sadly been full of images and videos of muslims demonstrating, protesting, misbehaving....it's a world were everybody and his grandmom has a smartphone to actually record what is happening on the streets....


Believe me....I would do the same if it had been Jews or Nazis....and it would be justified!

Thing is...nobody here is born islamophob....it's a process! The worse the muslims here keep behaving, with no signs of a counter movement, with Muslims actually supporting their new home, Germany, the West....taking to the streets for peace with the Jews...well...so long the abhorrence, the detestation...yes, even the loathing will only rise!

Europe will become broadly anti-muslim, if this keeps on....you can keep blaming me as much as you want, but the only ones who truly can change this are the european muslims themselves!

Perhaps because the are the videos you're watching.

And why shouldn't people demonstrate in support of one side our the other? It's a free country and people can demon start.


Some people grow to fear and hate what they perceive as different very quickly.


Some Germans are Muslim, with roots in Türkiye, the Arab world, West Africa etc. Just like here.


Who's 'blaming' you?

Do you seriously think you can brush the whole Muslim population with one paint? Don't you know decent, lovely Muslim people? I know I do and find it disgusting you can describe them in such a way.

Well....then stop complaining of people disliking them and their opinions....I'm also free to! :)


Nope....Vietnamese are very different too....or Koreans.....or Peruvians.....
In Berlin, as in most other big capitals, a gazillion people with lotsa different cultures from all over the world lives more or less well together....but it's always only one special "culture" provoking rising fear and hate! Islam and muslims...there is no way around that!


The leftists! If you listening to them it's us who are to blame for everything....and a muslim is always only the victim of the mean Westerner who never shows enough support for....you know the drill: "poor oppressed Arab".


I would really find them "decent and lovely" if I would see them on the streets, stopping their own hater and screamer....they would for sure gain my respect!

Till then....

Who's complaining? An observation is not a 'complaint'.


There are people who hate them too; those that stand out more get hated most. Fascists love targets and hate it when their target proves to be stronger than them.


As is so often the case. And victims should always fight back and win.

Muslims are the victims? Are you kidding me?

May I remind you about our spat from earlier times....about trans people?

Do you know what muslims do with trans people? Even here in Berlin? When gays or jews make the mistake to cross into "muslim territory" they have to fear for their lives.....not only about being beaten and spat on!

Here in Berlin!!! The city used to be a refugium for these people...

One muslim might be "decent and lovely"....a group of muslims is often enough hating and brutalizing women, trans people, gays, non-muslims and everybody else who doesn't seem "right".

Jon....do you really want them to win??? Win what exactly?? THINK!!!

PS: I need a break...*waves*

*takes helmet*

Last addendum:

(sadly only in German)


youtube.com/watch?v=kIbShFOIA40

...There is great concern about the anti-Semitic radicalization of young people and children. Wolfgang Büscher, spokesman for the children and youth organization "Arche", observes frightening developments and political failures. In the WELT interview he talks about how difficult it is to counteract it.....

Hint: It's not about white, german children....

*have to go now...till later*

Why about the thousands of people who are both?

Life is more complicated than either/or...


So promote diversity, anti-racism, anti-nationalism.


Some Germans are black, some brown, some yellow, and there are more year on year who aren't white.

And despite your scary videos found on dodgy YouTube channels and on twitter, most have a decent and happy life.

Yeah....what about them? Where are they? Hiding or already killed?

I know of only one german arab who is openly gay....he posts on X....and often enough shows the hate his inbox is flooded with....not from rightist Germans, mind you...no....from other Muslims and of course german leftist muslim supporter!

twitter.com/AliCologne


....and I want that it stays that way, also for them!

Right now Muslims want openly to destroy our decent and happy life...they want to supplant it with a life where everybody non-muslim, not living strictly after the Quran, is doomed to torture and murder.

Is it so hard to understand that I will fight that with all I have, as long as I can?

I really have to leave now...*goes'

Neither. However they aren't in your far-right social media videos.


Whatever driugs you're on aren't doing you any good...

BB won't like this.

It's not only me....every survey shows how people are waking up....the pro-muslim crowd is losing....the anti-muslim crows is growing, so there is hope! :)

dw.com/en/germany-hostility-toward-muslims-is-widespread/a-66069446

You won't win any elections here with pro-muslim slogans anymore....


theguardian.com/world/2023/dec/12/i-no-longer-feel-at-home-here-german-muslims-frustrated-by-israel-backing

Well.....there are 49 muslim countries where they can hate Jews and Christians totally undisturbed....

That means nothing.

From your last few posts, one could all to easily get the impression that your views on the Middle East are more anti-Arab than pro-Israeli.


Is there hate in that article?

Some Germans are Muslim. You'll have to learn to live with that.

And this thread is about the current conflict in Gaza, not about domestic racism in Germany.