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johnny reb
14 Jul 2017  #301

You communicate more clearly and I'll try to stay on topic:-)

Deal
Sounds like we both have some serious self discipline ahead of us.

Lyzko
14 Jul 2017  #302

Your words not mine:-) Staying on point though's a promise, not a threat.

johnny reb
15 Jul 2017  #303

Great, so now can I call you Jeff or do you prefer Jeffrey ?

Did you see that Trump signed the deal this week to ship the Patriot missiles to Poland ?
Trump also met with Macron this week and had a very cordial press conference with him.
They celebrated the 100 year anniversary of America's entry into of WW1.

Lyzko
15 Jul 2017  #304

Mark or simply The Spoon (lyzka) would do just fine, Johnny!

Ironside
15 Jul 2017  #305

The Spoon (lyzka)

Born with a wooden spoon up your ...ahem?

I-S:
Haven't seen democrats this mad since we took their slaves.

johnny reb
16 Jul 2017  #306

obama made a deal with Australia to take any of their over flow of immigrants. (another one of obama's blunders to help destroy America)

Now Australia wants to ship 800 MEN rejects to America and President Trump is saying no way.
Just one more reason why the educated people elected Trump over a felonies criminal that supported obama.

Lyzko
16 Jul 2017  #307

I doubt you even know what a democrat is, Ironside:-)

johnny reb
16 Jul 2017  #308

If I see someone who is Hispanic, Black, Asian, a young person wearing an Ivy League sweatshirt, someone who is obviously homosexual wearing a fanny pack or some old guy sporting a ponytail and granny glasses, I assume his or her vote cancelled out my own.

If I'm still in doubt, I will base my guess on where I spot them.
If I see them on campuses or soccer fields, in Jewish delis, coming or going from mosques, chanting dumb slogans on a teachers' union picket line or entering a Planned Parenthood abortion mill, I know that they are most likely a democrat.

Dirk diggler
17 Jul 2017  #309

@johnny reb

Don't forget about all the millennial snowflakes that are making my generation look like a bunch of pu$$ie$...

Also there's a lot of republicans and conservatives on college campuses but they're not really active in college political groups debates etc. The problem is even when a conservative speaker is invited to a campus the lefties try to shut em down especially at schools in liberal states with a large student population

Lyzko
17 Jul 2017  #310

The millennials whom you mention are the unconscious inheritors of a wealth which they rarely if even understand, and yet is responsible for them being able to afford to live, often, in the lap of (their parents') luxury! Most I've encountered over the years have unconscious assumptions of privilege, a grossly, almost meglomaniacal, sense of entitlement, comically inflated egos, profound ignorance of culture or world affairs, all this combined with a feeling of empowerment based on little more than arrogance.

A truly disappointing bunch, most of them.

johnny reb
17 Jul 2017  #311

I have to agree with you on that point Mark.
They are in for a very rude awakening when Daddy's money runs out.
That is why the saying goes that "the meek shall inherit."
The meek already knows how to live on a dime but unfortunately the pampered millennials are clueless to reality.
I predict the suicide rate will explode when the economy crashes world wide in the near future.
They will have to lower their standards to an unacceptable life style that they are use to.

Dirk diggler
17 Jul 2017  #312

@Lyzko

You mean inheritors of trillions of debt and ever increasing taxes and inflation.

Their parents money in many cases has already run out due to large expenses like paying their kids college and their own mortgage and retirement.

The way that Americans treat their parents is just pathetic. Stick em in a nursing home yeah that's the easy way out like with everything.

That's why I personally believe that kids should have to work a few hours a week while in high school or have to join the military for some 6 to 12 months after graduating. I don't even look or treat most 20 year olds as adults more like big overgrown children.

Its a lot of the parents fault too. They think their kids are the best and infallible. They'll baby them through college and even afterward. Its okay to help your kid with gaining an education but to baby and support them well into their 20s and 30s just to be repaid later in life with a room in a nursing home? Forget it.

What cracks me up is a lot of them are openly communist in ideology but yet they'd cry literally cry if their iphone BMW etc were confiscated and redistributed.

Lyzko
17 Jul 2017  #313

Kudos to both Dirk diggler and Johnny Reb!

In addition, but on another subject, there's a great op-ed piece by Charles Blow in today's New York Times entitled "Trump Mauls Language" and how the Donald does even more disrespect to the English tongue than W. ever did:-) Worth a read.

johnny reb
17 Jul 2017  #314

Most I've encountered over the years have unconscious assumptions of profound ignorance of culture or world affairs,

Which is exactly what the other end of the spectrum is with the Liberal Socialists.
They think socialism is a great thing because of being brainwashed by their college instructors yet have no idea and are ignorant of what socialism actually is.

Young millennial Left Socialists view socialism in a positive light, it's also clear that many of them are uneducated about what it entails, or the impact it's had throughout history.

Many millennials are unfamiliar with historical figures often associated with socialism, such as Che Guevara, Joseph Stalin, and Karl Marx.

Wanting to see what millennials in D.C. thought of socialism, Campus Reform headed to Washington, D.C. to ask students two simple questions: "Do you like socialism?" and "What is socialism?"

It quickly became clear that while most of the people they spoke with held an idyllic view of socialism, most had little idea of what it actually is.

Like you Lyzko, they can't explain what it is, they understand the basics: taking from the "privileged" to give to the "underprivileged."
They're not thinking about history or the long term implications of stealing from the people who create everything to give to people who create next to nothing, they just see producers have stuff they want, and they want to steal it for themselves.

Sitting down and explaining the history of socialism to most of you people is not going to change your mind.
This is WHY I have given up on you Mark, you have your mind made up no matter what.
Just watch this U-Tube to see the ignorance of these Lefties.
The video that follows this one is even better yet about obama's polices and blaming them on Trump.
Enjoy. :-)

youtube.com/watch?v=YMxTEZ7JizI

Joker
18 Jul 2017  #315

Trump Mauls Language" and how the Donald does even more disrespect to the English tongue than W. ever did:-) Worth a read.

Not really worth the paper its written on and a complete waste of time, like the rest of the sniveling.

Just another character assassination attempt on Trump. It`s getting old, most Americans have grown tired of it already.

IF the snowflakes even accept the fact they have lost the election and the look really foolish behaving like children. Maybe, now, you should take a few words from your glorious leader!


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Lyzko
18 Jul 2017  #316

Oh, quit being a Johnny wannabe, Joker! Guess you couldn't handle the truth either that the article showed:-) Maybe Hillary ain't no Hollywood phase maker extraordinaire, she's still a heck of a lot better than this Idiot-in-Chief.

Tricky Dicky of Watergate fame might well have been much more sinister, and Barry Goldwater umpteen times more hidebound, but at least those two gentlemen were presidential timber and spoke the English language like a book.

Dirk diggler
18 Jul 2017  #317

Hillary is just plain corrupt. She's like .... Russia corrupt.. And that's pretty bad

johnny reb
18 Jul 2017  #318

she's still a heck of a lot better than this Idiot-in-Chief.

Oh come on Mark, quit trying to be an obama wanna be and face the FACTS.

(Bloomberg) -- For a president with historically low poll numbers, Donald Trump can at least find solace in this: Hillary Clinton is doing worse.
Trump's 2016 Democratic rival is viewed favorably by just 39 percent of Americans in the latest Bloomberg National Poll, two points lower than the president. It's the second-lowest score for Clinton since the poll started tracking her in September 2009.

The former secretary of state has always been a polarizing figure, but this survey shows she's even lost popularity among those (over 20% of them) who voted for her in November.

She has been exposed as hard as the Liberal media has tried to cover her lies and felonies up.
She's going to prison Mark, you just wait and see.
This new F.B.I. director investigations are being recorded very methodically so when Trump puts the hammer down on her she won't be able to lie, wiggle or buy her way out again.

And Trump is in no hurry as he has seven more years to do it.
And when that happens what song will you be singing then Mark ?

Lyzko
18 Jul 2017  #319

Those who wind up in prison in the States, simply couldn't pay off the right people aka the right lawyer/liar. That's as true now as ever. If Hillary ends up in the slammer and Donald the Punk sits pretty in the Oval Office, it'll only be because the former was less well connected than she thought and grossly overestimated her abilities to bribe, nothing more, northing less:-) She's arrogant enough to do it too.

On that score at least, both she and Trump have more than enough "testosterone" to go around.

Joker
19 Jul 2017  #320

Oh, quit being a Johnny wannabe, Joker!

He makes more sense than you Libs ever will, and your demonizing of Trump only clouds your ability to reason.

Tricky Dicky of Watergate fame

Let me know when you have some real criminal evidence instead of the constant stream of nonsense the Dems pump out.
Just wait until the 2018 midterms and you will get your clocked cleaned again.

The demise of the DNC is coming thru the trojan horse of political correctness.

She has been exposed as hard as the Liberal media has tried to cover her lies and felonies up.

Can you imagine if Trump sold 20% of our Uranium to Russia? The MSM would have a heart attack!

How about Clinton colluding with the Ukrainians, where is all the outrage, why is the MSM ignoring this?

politico.com/story/2017/01/ukraine-sabotage-trump-backfire-233446

Lyzko
19 Jul 2017  #321

Smokescreen issues, guys!

Trump's more of a fraud than Hillary ever could be, only his packaging is better. Remember, here in the States, it all boils down to mullah or PR.

johnny reb
19 Jul 2017  #322

How about Clinton colluding with the Ukrainians, where is all the outrage, why is the MSM ignoring this?

Because the Liberal Bias Media was the ONLY thing Crooked Hillary had going for her.
Do you think the drive by media was going to tell the whole story to bury her greedy ass.
Donald Trump wasn't the only presidential candidate whose campaign was boosted by officials of a former Soviet bloc country.

Ukrainian government officials tried to help Hillary Clinton and undermine Trump by publicly questioning his fitness for office. They also disseminated documents implicating a top Trump aide in corruption and suggested they were investigating the matter, only to back away after the election. And they helped Clinton's allies research damaging information on Trump and his advisers, a Politico investigation found.

I can't wait to see the old hag in an orange jump suit that says, "Federal Penitentiary" on the back of it even if she only gets twenty years for her crimes instead of a life sentence that she deserves.

Live coverage of it on Fox 5 as she wattles shackled in leg and wrist chains into the prison.
Celebration time !

Joker
19 Jul 2017  #323

Smokescreen issues, guys!

Nothing was bigger than Obamas smokescreens!

What about the time he toppled Kadafy and subsequently had Crooked Hillary blame it on a video? Then she lied to all of us and to the family members of our slain diplomat and other killed Americans.

Obama`s Healthcare smokescreen was a dooozy " If you like you Dr. or plan you can keep it" He repeated that line 28 times. All Lies, of course.

What about the time Obama interfered with the Israeli election against Nentenayhu?
He actively participated in another nations political process and knew all the time about the Russians meddling in our past election, until Crooked Hillary lost!

If any President were to be impeached it should have been Obama for these crimes alone! Yet the MSM just gives the Libs a pass on everything!

The double standards in this country are very sickening!

They want to impeach Trump without a shred of evidence and spend all their time looking for something that isn't there and creating fake news stories.

Trump is right, The Dems are obstructionists!

Ukrainian government officials tried to help Hillary Clinton and undermine Trump by publicly questioning his fitness for offic

Its ok for liberals to cheat, but if Trump so much as farts in an elevator, its Impeachment time!!!!!!!!

Lyzko
19 Jul 2017  #324

Both Demokans and Republicrats (paraphrasing Michael Savage) are insufficient; let's vote in an Independent:-)
Bernie Sanders could sure use the job, but he's too out there, even for meLOL

Joker
19 Jul 2017  #325

Bernie Sanders could sure use the job, but he's too out there, even for meLOL

He reminds of the dude from Taxi and Back to the future.......Haha

Both Demokans and Republicrats (paraphrasing Michael Savage) are insufficient; let's vote in an Independent:-)

Not a bad Idea! How about we impose some term limits for congress as well!

If a person can only be a President for 8 years, then the same should apply towards Congress. Perhaps 3 terms max, but not a lifetime....

These career politicians, old mummies, like Pelosi and McCain get them the hell out:):)


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johnny reb
19 Jul 2017  #326

Nothing was bigger than Obamas smokescreens!

Sit down for this one Joker if you haven't heard about the next handout to the welfare f*cks that don't know how to feed themselves because of America's great welfare programs (that have handi capped them) to support the 'less fortunate'.

Universal Basic Income(sometimes called Unconditional Basic Income, Citizens Income or just Basic Income) is a proposed economic system in which all adults within the economy receive a guaranteed basic income irrespective of whether they have a job or not.

This is no joke Joker.
Everyone gets REWARDED at least $13,000 a year free if they refuse to work.
Rob more from the Successful that get up in the morning to go to work and give it to the Failure lazy ass idiots who refuse to get a job.

You think I am joking you ? just google "Universal Basic Income".
Socialism in America at it's best.
I'm moving to Poland before America fails completely because of this bull ****.

Joker
20 Jul 2017  #327

Everyone gets REWARDED at least $13,000 a year free if they refuse to work.

Are you trying to give me a heart attack! wtf this is ridiculous! Only the disabled should get benefits like this.
Every thug in the hood will line up for this program. All the liquor store owners and drug dealers will be happy.

I'm moving to Poland before America fails completely because of this bull ****.

I`ll be right behind you when that day comes. Im glad the wife is a Polish citizen:)

Socialism in America at it's best.

Its not sustainable, there aren't enough rich ppl to pay for this program.

I cant see Trump going along with this nonsense either.

Lyzko
20 Jul 2017  #328

Yo kids, the grass always looks greener on the other side of the fence:-)

johnny reb
20 Jul 2017  #329

Its not sustainable, there aren't enough rich ppl to pay for this program.

The argument is that medicare was set up for retired people at the age of 65 to cover 80% of their health care bills.
Since then everyone has created different programs to suck out of medicare program with Medicaid as the top leech.
So now they want to cut off ALL foodstamps, W.I.C.'s, Medicaid and the rest of the 1000 and one welfare programs which cost more then if the government just gave everyone $13,000 a year and let them pay for their own food, rent, ect.

Problem is that these low information voters that vote for a living have become slaves to the government.
They are the Monster that the government has created by rewarding them to be budgetly impaired, irresponsible nor accountable.
The more they are given the more they want and greed.
Giving them $13,000 a year like you say will only make the drug dealers, party store owners (booze and lotto tickets), tattoo shops, ect. rich.
I say skip the chase, put them all in internment camps if they refuse to work, give them their food, a cot to sleep on with twelve to a room and health care.

Sterilize them after a second child........ both men and women.

No cable t.v., no car, no internet, no play stations, no air conditioning, no I-phones, no alcohol, no cigarettes, no pets, no recreational vehicles, no drugs, not be allowed to leave the fenced in camp unless it was to go to a J.O.B. and nothing that isn't basic to survive.

That would cure most of the welfare abuse real quick.

TheOther
21 Jul 2017  #330

Sean Spicer finally quits. Yay!


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