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Lyzko
12 Aug 2017  #571

Even our President admitted that "tough talk" was merely a smokescreen for a diplomatic solution. Hmmm, now. Might we all have been wrong about him? Might there actually be some redeeming qualities?!

If Langone actually thought he was being "not conservative ENOUGH(LOL)" for wanting to save Indiana's jobs a while back, allowing instead the markets to take their course and let what happens happen, perhaps in the end I might have been wrong about the guy.

However, it could also be some surprisingly sound advice coming from the Oval Office.....for a change:-)

johnny reb
12 Aug 2017  #572

If you Liberals would quit trying to throw a monkey wrench, with your fake news and leaks, into every issue Trump is trying to solve we would have faster positive results yet.

You people have wasted a lot of precious time and money for our Country.
Just look at the Russian probe for example that we are now finding out that the Democratic Party leaked and was responsible for.
However to a point that can be expected from the losing team which I can tolerate.
I myself pointed out the unending failures of obama.
Trump was left with one hell of a mess.
What really has me torqued though is how the Commie Left refuses to unite as a Country when we are being threatened with a nuclear war.

Like Bush said "you are either with us or against us" and it has become apparent that the Left is against America and wants it to fail.

When will you people wake up from your P.C. ?

Lyzko
12 Aug 2017  #573

And you Republican reactionaries never put out "fake news"??? Only we have a monopoly on lies??!!
Somebody here has a screw loose, or is merely being their old provocative self:-)

johnny reb
12 Aug 2017  #574

I would not disagree with you on that Mark.
My point was that it was the Democratic Party (Debbie 'Blabbermouth' Schultz) who "leaked" the information about the Russian hack and tried to blame it on Trump.

All this democratic corruption is slowly coming out through these investigations.
Trump for example has NEVER asked for an investigation against Crooked Hillary which surely would put her behind bars if he did.
There are more important things going on in our country to worry about right now.

Lyzko
12 Aug 2017  #575

Problem is though, Johnny, is that there's equal blame to go around, the way I see it! McConnel has his particular ax to grind, so too President Trump, likewise Mattis, McMaster, nearly everybody there:-)

johnny reb
12 Aug 2017  #576

Not arguing that point.
My point was:

that it was the Democratic Party (Debbie 'Blabbermouth' Schultz) who "leaked" the information about the Russian hack and tried to blame it on Trump.

It's gonna just about finish off your chances of any hopes in the 2018 mid terms when the investigations proves it beyond a doubt.
Trump is steam rolling your P.C. in fashion gaining base voters along the way.

Lyzko
12 Aug 2017  #577

Trump, like Reagan, was skillfully I'll admit, all too ready, willing, and able to sell this country on a phony bill of goods....and it worked! An equally ready, willing, and able John Q. Public (neither the best nor surely the brightest) bought those goods, swallowing 'em hook, line, and sinker. You erase memory and when historical knowledge becomes the first casualty in the war on truth, e.g. the New Deal, someone like Reagan is all but swept into office!! Every critical lesson about fair play, the foulness of bullying etc. becomes but a distant memory. After that, no holds barred animal kingdom where the critters are living in homes rather than cages and the humans are left to fend for themselves in the streets.

As in 1933, another all too weak, eager, gullible public bought the "Bohemian Corporal" madness about a Thousand-year Reich, often without question, Jane & Joe Six-Pack, Joe The Plumber, Duck Robertson & friends have pulled out all the stops on civility, electing one of the latest turdblossoms into the White House aka The Brown House 'cuz of all the manure being manufactured by Trump's "dream team".

As with the former, one person's dream, another person's nightmare.

Joker
12 Aug 2017  #578

Even our President admitted that "tough talk" was merely a smokescreen for a diplomatic solution.

It is very clever of him,

What is Trump supposed the say to a maniac that isn't rational? Not the same phrases over and over such as " we leave every option on the table" that hasn't worked for 25 years. Trumps language towards Kim is the only thing he understands. Hopefully, this will lead to a diplomatic solution.

My point was that it was the Democratic Party (Debbie 'Blabbermouth' Schultz) who "leaked" the information about the Russian hack and tried to blame it on Trump.

The Dems are going to be in some serious trouble in 2018 and beyond.....kinda funny I think, get the popcorn out:)

However, it could also be some surprisingly sound advice coming from the Oval Office.....for a change:-)

Trumps not a bad guy, if they would just give him a chance instead of all the hate/resist bs coming from the left. Its just ruining their own party, its self destructing behavior.

Nice to see you have an open mind about it! If Crooked H had won. I would have accepted it.

jon357
13 Aug 2017  #579

"Land of the free, home of the brave" - where a deranged President wants to nuke a trapped population and Nazis freely roam the streets

johnny reb
13 Aug 2017  #580

If Crooked H had won. I would have accepted it.

We accepted obama's failures for eight years.
Now Trump has to clean up his messes and undo all of the illegal executive orders that obama signed.
Trump will make America Great Again.

Joker
13 Aug 2017  #581

We accepted obama's failures for eight years.

Trump is cleaning up Obamas mess without any help from the obstructionist Libs. They won't win another election for years...lol


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johnny reb
13 Aug 2017  #582

Trumps not a bad guy

No he is not but you will never see the Liberal media give him credit for any of his accomplishments.
Trump is even cleaning his own party up.
Have you seen the latest ?
President Trump reportedly suspects that his chief strategist Stephen Bannon is behind some White House leaks about fellow staffers.
Until some of these bastards are put in prison the leaks will not stop.
Trump is doing his best to put an end to them so the Liberal news media doesn't end up with classified information to spin.

Trump is cleaning up Obamas mess

And what a mess it is.

Lyzko
13 Aug 2017  #583

Craven Trump didn't even address head-on the racist violence in Virginia!! Why?? For fear of offending his supporters, of course:-)

What a filthy piece of work, so help me.

jon357
13 Aug 2017  #584

Yes. He's in an increasingly vulnerable position.

johnny reb
13 Aug 2017  #585

Let Trump do his job is the message to you Libtards.

Lyzko
13 Aug 2017  #586

Sadly, he's not doing his job! Instead of speaking out AGAINST the White Supremacists in Virginia, he says nothing! When PR is most desparately needed, Trump turns his usual deaf ear.

Point is, even if he doesn't believe the rhetoric required to speak out on the right issues, at least pretend by stating that you're FOR a halt to the violence, that the Alt-Right are dead wrong.

Not enough "truth telling" where it is most lacking, too much in-your face "telling it like it is" and political incorrectness where it is NOT necessary.

Trump, like a lot of average, common people, never seems to monitor how he comes across, what's the impression that a nurturing leader must have.

If he's not willing or nor able to do as proscribed above, then quit playing president and stay in Bedminister playing golf!!!

It's a lot more fun, I can tell you that much:-)

jon357
13 Aug 2017  #587

Sadly, he's not doing his job! Instead of speaking out AGAINST the White Supremacists in Virginia, he says nothing!

He daren't. That's his most vocal support.

This could bring him down, together with his handling of North Korea. I suspect though that he'll use that Bannon idiot as a fall guy.

delphiandomine
13 Aug 2017  #588

I dare say we'll just see the whole thing collapsing around him. His Chief of Staff is a decent appointment, but I doubt the idiots around him will tolerate military-style discipline in the White House.

gregy741
13 Aug 2017  #589

he did condemn violence in Virginia didnt he? wonder,when you guys stop polluting this forum with bs

jon357
13 Aug 2017  #590

Did he condemn torchlit neo-Nazi rallies? Did he condemn one of his registered supporters driving into a crowd and killing a young woman? Did he condemn the toxic 'alt-right' fratboys?

No. Shame on him.

gregy741
13 Aug 2017  #591

i though ,you cant judge social group base on action of one individual(correct me if am wrong)most of alt-right dont drive into crowd,they are law obeying citizens.are you nasty ,nazi "alt-rightophobic?stop generalising man,its bad

as for Trump-he did condemn ALL the violence in Virginia on both sides.i believe violence was present on both sides,BLM and antifa thugs violence need to be addressed as well...so i dont know whats the problem

Ironside
13 Aug 2017  #592

He has done the right thing. Condemned violence wherever it came from. Too long commie thugs attacked and bullied people just because they hold a different views. No more condoning of the left based bigotry, hate and violence.

jon357
13 Aug 2017  #593

hold a different views

The guy is seriously insane. And has the nuclear codes...

"raging over mere slights, seeing plots in every ill turn of events and, as always, stunningly self-absorbed. He was called a racist, a sexist and a bully. But his mental health issues were euphemized as problems of "temperament." He lied ceaselessly, reflexively and clumsily, but his lies were called merely "unproven" or, later, "false."

salon.com/2017/08/12/my-meeting-with-donald-trump-a-damaged-pathetic-personality-whose-obvious-impairment-has-only-gotten-worse/

Ironside
13 Aug 2017  #594

The guy is seriously insane

Scaremongering and character assassination, a typical propaganda war i.e. all that can be expected from the left (commies).

gregy741
13 Aug 2017  #595

Craven Trump didn't even address head-on the racist violence in Virginia!! Why??

he says nothing!

Did he condemn torchlit neo-Nazi rallies? Did he condemn one of his registered supporters driving into a crowd and killing a young woman?

youtube.com/watch?v=eLKC_gXLgZQ

ehhh..not telling the truth again guys...not cool, didnt your mums tell you lying is not nice?

jon357
13 Aug 2017  #596

a typical propaganda war

Precisely what Trump did. He's stuck between a rock and a hard place. Real or attempted treason with Russia, Torchlit fascist marches by his most vocal supporters, and a crisis that On China's and Russia's doorstep that's making him look a jackass.

gregy741
14 Aug 2017  #597

hmm interesting read,twitter from alt-right members and others such as faith goldy.honestly,it should be federal investigation into this to see what role had Charlottesville major office and council played in seting those group on violence path.

i remember it use to be typical PO tactics,to bring antifa thugs and remove police presence or direct violence on national day parades in warsaw,in order to blackmail and slander polish patriots for violence ect.

remember those german antifa guys brought and armed by PO who attacked nationalist members of march.
same here,someone allowed illegal BLM antifa march,with no police presence or supervision,despite alt right members asking for police support many times.
mind you ,deputy major of Charlottesville is well know black racist BLM supporter Wes Bellamy

Joker
14 Aug 2017  #598

This whole forum reeks of Vlad and expat Trolls!!!

Joker
14 Aug 2017  #599

doubt the idiots around him will tolerate military-style discipline in the White House.

Surely, they must "confer" with you next time! Just another armchair general without any knowledge at all!

All I see on this forum are leftist Europeans pushing a PC agenda, nothing to do with Poland at all!

The USA will be kicking your ass and seeing you twats later!!

jon357
14 Aug 2017  #600

,it should be federal investigation into this to see what role had Charlottesville major office and council played in seting those group on violence path.

A more pertinent question is why a huge mob of frat-boys turned up, some wearing swastikas, as part of their 'summer of hate'.


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