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Because they have the right to do so, because they don't live in a totalitarian state tailored according to the ideas of the radical lefties. That is a freedom of speech and expression in action, you cannot have a debate on your terms and still call it a debate. Its nothing but dictate and tyranny. Something which you commies aspire to and have nothing against as long as it is a tyranny of the left. As if that wouldn't be tyranny as bad or worse than anything history of the mankind knows...

Actually trump did condemn the alt right guys at the rally. He specifically said many parties were to blame and the us needs to unite. If you watch the various videos shot by attendees you'll see that the unite the right guys stayed in their section and for the most part didn't cause trouble.... Then antifa and blm showed up. Even reporters and camera guys from conservative outlets were attacked and they were simply reporting. This same type of situation occurred when trump tried to hold a rally in chicago. Supporters were assaulted, balloons full of urine and paint thrown, people were maced, hit with smileys, all sorts of violence broke out just because they wanted to hear trump speak. Conservatives don't do this to liberals. We don't go into Democratic rallies and try to shut them down because we value freedom of speech and freedom of expression. Antifa however does not they even chant shut it down as they're causing violence it because they have no respect for difference of opinion.

Normal democrats don't like this and they criticise both parties the alt right racists as well as the antifa blm guys.

Also there are no laws against wearing swastikas. However a very small minority had such symbols. Most had us and confederate flags as it was an event protesting the white washing of us history namely the removal of general Lee's statue

Legal permits were issues to the unite the rights guys but also two legal permits were issued to antifa and blm to organize on the same block as the unite the right. Second the mayor told the police to stand down and not protect the unite the right. Third when the police declared the assembly unlawful despite all parties having proper permits the police forced the unite the right ppl to leave the same way they came or face arrest - meaning right through the crowds of antifa blm etc. Clearly they wanted these groups to antagonize each other and not separate them.the governor is a hardcore leftist and his cronies are willing to spit on the constitution just so others don't express their opinion. The unite the right actually originally got their original permit denied and they had to appeal in federal court which was upheld on grounds of free speech. Actually the aclu helped the unite the right guys get their permit. They had to spend 2 months just getting permits while blm and antifa received them instantly.

The media portrays the unite the right as the instigators but they weren't the ones who started the violence. Also no one mentions the driver was attacked as he was coming out of a parking garage. Yes he took it too far but his nerves were clearly at a boiling point after seeing the police standing down, people being beat maced doused with urine paint etc and then he himself also being attacked as he was leaving.

Just another example of the far left trying to shut down rallies by using violence as they've done a hundred times. They did it with trump rallies they did it when speakers come to unis and they did it in virginia. Well a lot of democrats don't agree with antifa and abhor their violence and attacks on free speech and difference of opinion. Average people see this as spreading cultural Marxism violence suppression of free speech assembly and all that the us constitution and bill of rights stand for and they don't like it. The lefts violence actually helped trump win.

At least soros is happy

As usual with Trump's lousy ilk, far too little, way too late:-) And likely only if push comes to shove!
DIsgusting, yet typical.

Merck CEO Frazier quit according to my news feed : /

I don't blame him who needs the stress of politics. Corporate workers from mid to c suite have it pretty well - good paying jobs with little stress.

Its sad though how the msm is spinning this whole virginia debacle. Seems like as long as antifa and blm don't show up demonstrations, speeches, trump rallies generally go on without violence

No, I-S, it's advocating murder, violence and totalitarianism. Millenial fratboys marching with swastikas, insulting the memory of those who died fighting fascism.

@jon357

Doesn't matter its free speech and freedom of assembly just as commies can walk around with sickle and hammer flags insulting the memory of all the polish officers killed at katyn as well the tens if not hundreds of millions who died, many from starvation torture etc, under commie regimes.

Also no one was advocating murder. The nationalists never chanted such things. They chanted we are here to stay, you will not replace us, etc. They never said anything like kill the commies or kill the blacks or anything like that.

Unless your talking about antifa in which case you're correct. They're all about violence as we've seen hundreds of times from trump rallies to speeches on college campuses.

No, it's violence, aggression, advocating totalitarianism, advocating race hate, and as we've seen, actual murder.

Nobody invited them to that city, nor did its residents want them.

Hence the state of emergency, to maintain the safety of the town.

yea,thats BLM and antifa..well done


state of emergency was called to shut down alt- right protest...mayor office lost in federal court when they tried to refuse protest,so they called state of emergency,which give them right to disperse protest.


was there a referendum in this city?beside,its free speech right ,not some local residents -like or not like -issue
but i know free speech is alien concept for you bolshevics lovers

@jon357

Yes they did. They had official legal permits to demonstrate.

And antifa is so pure right? They even maced conservative reporters who weren't even participating in the demonstration and only reporting on it. Its their same mo just as they've done to trump rallies milo speeches etc. Nothing new. Ive seen with my own eyes what they did in my hometown to people who were peacefully walking to a rally - antifa would rip clothes off their bodies, mace people, attack ppl with smileys, throw **** or paint water balloons etc.

Also none of the unite the right people advocated murder or totalitarianism. I didn't hear any such chants in any of the videos from the event. I heard things like you will not replace us and we are here to stay but nothing that would imply murder aggression etc. Just because someone hoists a confederate flag doesn't automatically mean he or she is racist. Its a symbol of the south and has been for decades until recently when all the snowflakes got their panties in a bunch. In the us you can fly a Nazi or ss flag in front of your house and its totally legal just as commies can fly hammer and sickle or Stalin flags. Where are you getting such information that unite the right promoted such things? Can you please share source?

If waving swastikas isn't advocating totalitarianism, advocating race hate, I don't know what is.

As for murder, it's already happened there.


The people of Charlotsville have made it clear they don't want these things. The so-called alt-right evidently don't respect the townsfolk's decision.

@jon357

And waving ussr and Stalin flags isn't advocating totalitarianism?

No one advocated murder. The actions of one person don't speak for a whole group.

The racists who felt the need to terrorise the inhabitants of Charlotteville brought Nazi flags.


Yes they did. Displaying a swastika is advocating murder - that is precisely what that symbol represents. Nothing less.

Trump's response (finally!!) was so tepid and prepared, one wonders whether or not the man traded in his presidential timber for a pre-fab log cabin:-)

Would the likes of Lincoln ever be turning over in his grave (..not to mention either Teddy R. or FDR).

ppl should have a look and compare,how Obama responded to racial hateful murder of several policeman in dallas by BLM thugs.
cnut says "motives are unknown" next day he blamed guns,and was pushing gun control
youtube.com/watch?v=GIYuAazz9zg
instead condemning he depended black racist thugs

Trump is dammed if he does and dammed if he doesn't. I don't watch msm anymore its just total trash like Jerry Springer!

More ppl watch reruns of Yogi Bear, than CNN now! Seriously, the Cartoon Network bests CNN in ratings. LoL


Obama was the most divisive president in history. Im so glad he's gone!!!!

I didn't see any Nazi flags.. Confederate and us but no Nazi flags and ive read several more left leaning outlets like vox which didn't show any unite the right members with Nazi ss wermacht etc flags. Can you please point to a source that shows unite the right bringing Nazi flags en masse? The aclu helped these guys get the permits even.

Look I don't support the alt right or anything. Most of them are meth head trailer trash. However I didn't see any Nazi flags in any videos I watched or any news reports. Confederate us some white flag with an x in it but no Nazi ss wermacht flags. I'm just saying it like it is. Are the people Nazis? Maybe some. But Nazi has turned now into a loose word to describe any person that espouses very conservative views even if they aren't a racist. But yes there were def racists in the crowd of unite the right no denying that. But Nazis? That's throwing the term a bit far. I didn't see any Nazi flags nor emblems nor any Sig heils or any opinions which would parallel mein kampf

This is more of a reaction of very conservative whites with probably nothing better to do than attend stupid event like this instead of going to a job that are fighting a losing battle. Whites will become eventually the majority minority by 2043 if not sooner. Some dread it some don't care. I personally am worldly so I don't only stick to my own race and culture but learn that of others including languages like spanish. I chose international business as a major and career so I can travel and experience the world. The thing is a lot of whites feel that they're being like some scapegoat for other peoples short comings I.e. white guilt which is total b.s. I don't mind other races or people. But I don't want my nations achievements to be diminished as happens all the time with poland. I don't even really identify as a white American but more as a Christian pole. I'm guessing the white Americans esp in the south kind of feel the same way since it was wasps who colonized the land. But now their numbers are lower so they feel threatened. Its all reactionsry and kind of b.s. quite frankly. There's far more important things to worry about. Most polams watch events like while their on the news or trending on the web chuckle call both sides idioci and go about their day bc they could really care less.

You probably saw the wrong ones. There were plenty of swastikas displayed among the lowlife who turned up uninvited to terrorise the citizens of Charloteville. The photos went viral. Google it.


If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck and has swastikas, it's a Nazi duck.


Until an alt-right loon drives their car into a crowd and kills them, presumably.

Obama took 4 days to say something while Ferguson was burning! He was hiding out at Marthas Vineyard. And when he did say something, he blamed both sides. Where was the outrage? 4 Days! Double standards for Dems over and over etc...............

Well unfortunately being injured is a risk at such rallies. Both sides go there with armor and weapons because they expect violence hence why we call them idioci. But yea he def took it too far. The guy was attacked earlier but that's no reason to lose your chill and drive your car into a bunch of people.

Would you also unequivocally condemn though the antifa loons that show up to violently assault trump supporters, conservative speakers on college campuses? Many residents wanted to see and hear trump and many college students wanted to see and hear ilo and other speakers as well.

I wonder why the msm didn't report about the 39 shooting in the sanctuary city of Chicago this past weekend? More Americans die here than in Afghanistan and the msm tries to sweep in under the rug.

That's certainly an understatement.

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Guess you're right then jon. I didn't see any of those on vox fox etc. Only saw 1 of those in Google image though when I searched by images 'unite the right virginia'

Like I said... Idioci

Nonetheless though idiotic speech is protected here for better or worse.

gotta love that,foker wearing black panther backpack.
truepundit.com/charlottesville-deputy-mayors-troubling-twitter-feed-i-hate-seeing-white-people-and-beanpole-white-women-video/

@Joker

We call that 'summer'

Most the shootings aren't by Latinos though. That's one thing trump got wrong about chicago. Statistically its not the Hispanic gangs driving the murder rate way up its the black gangs. (Heyjackass.com) Back in the 90s it was the other way around there were shootings in Humboldt park especially everyday in the summer. Now yuppies and wealthy Hispanics are gentrifying the area.

@gregy741

Goddamn lol. How did this guy remain vice mayor or whatever his position was after all that?

He even knocks black people for 'talking white.'

Absolutely. Dangerous ones too. A real insult to all those Americans (and others) who died fighting fascism.

Must be pretty terrifying for any minorities who live in the town. Can't the alt-right protest in their own towns?

Anyway, at least His Excellency the Governor of the Commonwealth of Virginia has declared a State of Emergency, so they can now go home and start behaving like normal human beings. Instead of Nazis.

its bad man,he was behind this statue removal bill,and alt-right protest ban that he lost in federal court. he appointed some black bro as police chief,and they are responsible for all this..it was deliberate trap,they set those parties against each other.so they could show some bad images of "violent nazis" in CNN

i hope they will be investigation,and those guys charged but i dont think so ,seeing direction the way america is going.