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Joker
20 Aug 2017  #871

@delphiandomine
The Dems are so badly damaged and they don't have one decent candidate to put forward. Just as the racist Dems lost the past 4 special elections and will get clobbered in 2018 and beyond.

You and your cohort are in no position to make critical remarks about how other people look.

Pot calling the kettle again.

When they start losing the debate back in the previous posts, then they post the fat America pics. They've done this numerous times before> deflection!

They fail to realize how many fat Europeans there are as well, like DelphiaDope!

and they call this statue"lady liberty of black power"
i just cant believe this

Paper Mache statue..Hahahahahahaaa

No wonder they need more money from Soros


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Dirk diggler
20 Aug 2017  #872

Now they're attacking Thomas Jefferson and George washington. Smh. Even an abe lincoln statue got defaced and set fire too recently here.

Joker
20 Aug 2017  #873

There are even some idiots calling for Mt.Rushmore to be taken down, Are they going to dynamite it? LOL
Trump was right where will it stop at?

Im really offended as well and I want these statues taken down!

All Muhammuad Ali Statues: An American draft dodger/traitor!

Lets get rid of the James Browns statue : an avid drug and woman abuser!

Lets not sell anymore Aunt Jemiah Syrup: She reminds me of a slave who actually enjoys her work!

Lets get rid of the funny lawn statues with the black face, they make me laugh!

Lets take any money with George Washingtons face on it away from the them, so they don't have to be reminded of slavery while he founded the country!

@Dirk
"Even an abe lincoln statue got defaced and set fire too recently here"

The Man who freed them! How disgraceful!


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johnny reb
20 Aug 2017  #874

The Dems are so ashamed of their history that they want to destroy all the statues and everything else that reminds America of their failures.

Basically before the Russia treason scandal

Yeah what ever happened to the Russian card that fizzled out after a year of waste of time and tax payers money ?
Another Left failure as Trump keeps right on marching along draining the swamp like he promised us if we voted for him.
Your doing a great job Donald, keep up the good work as we watch the Left have melt down after melt down.
Lock her Up !

Joker
21 Aug 2017  #875

Yeah what ever happened to the Russian card that fizzled out after a year of waste of time and tax payers money

This statue thing makes better TV drama for msm and they can spin, deflect and try and reverse blame.

They can't hide from their own history!

@JR
"we watch the Left have melt down after melt down"

How many meltdowns has it been this year already? Too many, Ive lost track! LoL


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TheOther
21 Aug 2017  #876

An American draft dodger/traitor!

How do you call Donald "Bone spur" Trump then? LOL!

Joker
21 Aug 2017  #877

The Dems are so ashamed of their history

Clinton and Gore didn't mind being associated with the confederacy/slavery back in 1992

Maybe the will tear down his Presidential library next...lol


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johnny reb
21 Aug 2017  #878

There is no other party so full of hate and hypocrisy as the Democratic Party.
They have had a complete meltdown ever since Crooked Hillary lost.
Their true agenda has surfaced which is to destroy America and what it was founded upon.
They should all be hung for treason.

johnny reb
21 Aug 2017  #879

Did your hear about this low life Senator calling for the assassination of the President?

Think she will see any of that ?Doubtful.

As I predicted, she said she was sorry and has learned her lesson so let's just sweep her felonies under the rug with Crooked Hillary's felonies and they will just go away.

I guess she wasn't sorry enough to resign as a Senator of the United States for committing a felony though. lol
Sen. Maria Chappelle-Nadal, a black Democrat, said she has no plans to resign as numerous top Republicans and Democrats in Missouri have insisted since Thursday's post in which she wrote "I hope Trump is assassinated!"

Being a woman and being Black makes you untouchable these days.
If Trump would have said that about her it would be the headlines for a week demanding to impeach him.

gregy741
21 Aug 2017  #880

Maybe the will tear down his Presidential library next...lol

also need to change name of the capital.Washington dc..
maybe for dindunuffin dc

Joker
21 Aug 2017  #881

so let's just sweep her felonies under the rug

Who's keeping an EYE on the DNC Party of Crimes? Hillary (Benghazi) Clinton, Debbie (Consequences) Wasserman, and the domestic terrorist Maria (Assassin) Nepal?

They're are all criminals on the Democratic side, its time for some justice!

it would be the headlines for a week demanding to impeach him.

If a Republican said that about Obama it would be on the msm news 24/7

They have had a complete meltdown ever since Crooked Hillary lost.

Its totally hilarious watching these expat trolls meltdown and try to defend such criminals..LoL

Joker
21 Aug 2017  #882

Millennials are so lazy and don't want to work, the spoiled brats expect everything for free. Too bad the real world doesn't work that way. What a useless generation of self absorbed misfits!

In a few years form now they can blame it on their PC parents while they're still living at home. LoL


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Lyzko
21 Aug 2017  #883

Reminds me a little of the those "99'ers", oh, a number of years back! Time to take time from their jobs (many with city-run sinecures, it turns out), but not much to show for it all:-)

Dirk diggler
22 Aug 2017  #884

@Lyzko

Its sickening. It almost reminds me of Poland in the early 90s when people would hate you and even try to screw you over if you had a little wealth. Im not talking multi millionaire but even just upper middle class. I get the feeling more and more that as a white male its like bad for people like me to be ambitious successful and want to have a middle upper class existence. Its like even though I worked for every penny myself Its as if I should share it all with bums who don't want to work and just have their hand stretched out all the time. I don't mind giving to charity like sick kids or sending a lil donation to my uni but I'm not going to give money to some drunken bum so he can just get another bottle of $5 vodka. If you can troll a parking lot asking for handouts you're able bodied enough to work. I already pay taxes a ton of which go to social services of which there's plenty they can take advantage of.

Idk America isn't the same place when I was a kid or even when I was starting my bachelors some 10 years ago. It seems as if my particular state has especially gone downhill

Lyzko
22 Aug 2017  #885

At least partial agreement with ya there.

johnny reb
22 Aug 2017  #886

It is past the point of ridiculous.
Just yesterday I saw a 'very' unkept girl about 20 sitting with her big dog, smoking a cigarette on the corner going into a big box store with a sign saying, "Down on my luck, please help if you can", while she was texting !

I wanted so bad to stop and take a picture of her pan handling with a sign not more then twenty feet from her that said, "HIRING IMMEDIATELY - Apply WITHIN !"

And two more stores in in the mini mall also had hiring signs within her sight.
I would be down on my luck too if I put cigarettes, a big expensive dog to care for and a $125 a month I-phone payment as my priorities when I was broke.

(Did she really think I was going to hand her a $20 so she could get three more packs of smokes !)

Stupid is as stupid does and you can't fix stupid.
Marxism is thriving in America and the P.C. are to damn stupid to understand what is going on under their noses to destroy America.

Dirk diggler
22 Aug 2017  #887

@johnny reb

People don't want to work for 9 10 11 etc an hour when they can go on welfare, pop out a baby or two (three actually seems to be the best number till you hit the point of diminishing returns) since it comes out to making more... Plus they have the day off and can pan handle or do other things to make cash. I see this time and time again. People living in section 8 housing buying sh!t w food stamps yet driving a new 40 50k SUV wearing $300 true religion jeans smh.

TheOther
22 Aug 2017  #888

Marxism is thriving in America and the P.C. are to damn stupid to understand what is going on under their noses to destroy America.

Too black and white, Johnny.

There are certainly people who milk the system and are simply too lazy to work, but there are also plenty of people who just had bad luck. Remember the real estate crash a few years ago when tens of thousands of families lost their home and became homeless? Remember the recession at the end of GWB second term when millions of people lost their job and couldn't find a replacement? It's not as easy as you think it is.

You're right of course that working is better than begging, but there are other factors you'll have to consider. "Hiring immediately. Apply within". My immediate response would be: "Do you pay more than minimum wage?" Why? Because most metropolitan areas in the US are far too expensive to live on a minimum wage job. Heck, not even working two or three of them would suffice when you have to pay $3K or more for a crappy apartment. Go where the jobs are, you say? Second: we both know that no business owner in his right mind would ever hire a homeless person right off the street. Most of the time they don't look too good, have a drug problem and/or are a little off the rocker. Even if these people want a job, it's almost impossible for them to get one. Not even Walmart would hire them. So what should they do?

Something is destroying America - you are right, Johnny - but it's not the homeless and poor. It's the greed and the dictatorship of ever increasing quarterly profits that kills us.

America isn't the same place when I was a kid or even when I was starting my bachelors some 10 years ago.

That's right. The only thing that is important to people nowadays is money and a "Me, myself and I" attitude. A result of the system.

Joker
22 Aug 2017  #889

That's right. The only thing that is important to people nowadays is money and a "Me, myself and I" attitude. A result of the system.

They spend most of their time taking sell absorbed selfies of themselves. I agree, a result of the PC safe zone coddled, participation trophy receiving system.

These millennials think they are entitled to everything and most of them are as dumb as a box of rocks!

A social engineering project gone awry!

People living in section 8 housing buying sh!t w food stamps yet driving a new 40 50k SUV wearing $300 true religion jeans smh.

Yep, Ive witnessed this on multiple occasions myself.

I wanted so bad to stop and take a picture of her pan handling with a sign not more then twenty feet from her that said, "HIRING IMMEDIATELY

They have No ambition, No drive, it`s the blind leading the blind down PC Boulevard. The perfect future Democratic Sheep!

There is some hope! The world is starting to wake up and fight back against Libs and this PC culture that is destroying the planet.

Poland for example: Not letting these terrorist/refugees into their country is a very good stance.

johnny reb
22 Aug 2017  #890

My immediate response would be: "Do you pay more than minimum wage?"

Mine would be, "are you worth more than minimum wage ?"
If so you will climb the ladder to what you are worth.
The millenials seem to think you start out at the top so you can afford a $3k apartment and live large like the Jones's.

But when Mom & Pop's money runs out along with government aid (Socialism) they have a melt down and don't know how to feed themselves.

I lived with four other people and ate a lot of spaghetti when I first started out at minimum wage and it worked for me.

(May I add with NO FINACIAL HELP EVER from my parents or the government........it can be done "if" you want it)
Of course I don't have tattoo's, use drugs or abuse alcohol, have a $125 a month I-phone, two dogs and a cat, smoke a $70 carton of cigarettes a week, have cable t.v., air conditioning, a new leased car, professional manicures and eat all my meals out at restaurants either as they seem to think they are entitled to just because the Jones's live that way.

So what should they do?

Go get some of the unlimited free government help from the re hab. agencies to get off the drugs, clean themselves up in in home treatment, get a mental evaluation to get prescribed the right therapy and drugs and learn to live within their means.

Participation trophies brainwashed them into thinking everyone is equal. NOT !

A result of the system.

I do agree with you on that as that is how the millenials have been conditioned by the system that the Liberal Socialist Marxists propaganda promotes to destroy America's values with their political correctness.

The Liberal Media won't tell you that there are millions less people on food stamps since Trump took office because of his crack down and no one has starved to death yet now have they.

Dirk diggler
22 Aug 2017  #891

I managed to pay for a private college by delivering pizzas and waiting tables full time while going to school. Took me 6 years to get my bachelors but I graduated with no debt. There's no reason why others can't do the same

TheOther
22 Aug 2017  #892

There's no reason why others can't do the same

Not true, and you know it. Being born in the wrong neighborhood and /or with the wrong skin color automatically puts you at a disadvantage for life in the USA. With the wrong address on your job application and (in many cases) a felony on your record, you have almost no chance to get a decent job. Not even talking about the quality of schools and the gang problems in these neighborhoods. The American Dream is dead.

Mine would be, "are you worth more than minimum wage ?"

Show me how you would survive on minimum wage in the Silicon Valley or NYC for example without commuting for at least three hours one way each day. Not possible - even with three minimum wage jobs - because housing in the metropolitan areas (where the jobs are) has simply become unaffordable. I know people who have to share an apartment during the week and who drive home only on weekends to be with their families. Shi*tty life, and it's getting worse every month.

Dirk diggler
22 Aug 2017  #893

@TheOther

For your information we migrated to this country with maybe $400 didn't know the language and lived in one of the worst hoods and had to figure out how to become citizens learn English make money and learn all the customs laws etc. The same people we lived next to all spoke English were all citizens all.had family etc. I went to the same grade schools as their kids. So yes if we can do it anyone else can. And if someone's committing felonies and can't get a job they only have themselves to blame. I refuse to believe that just because you live in a bad area or went to a crappy school that you can't amount to something. Its about taking personal responsibility and having a shred of ambition. Also if a person commits a felony and its their first offense they can get their record sealed or expunged if they don't commit other crimes. Nonetheless being a criminal and committing felonies is a very lame excuse for why you can't become successful. There's plenty of people in bad neighborhoods that work 9 to.5s and don't commit crimes.

How come immigrants especially Asians Indians slavs and even hispanics manage to come to this country dead broke and not knowing the language and still have to become citizens yet so many manage to become engineers doctors businessmen etc? Why is it that immigrants are able to accomplish this while others who have lived in the us for generations and speak the language have such a hard time? Again far easier to play victim and blame someone else for your ills than work 2 jobs go to school and learn everything from scratch like we and countless immigrants from all corners of the world had to. Weirdly enough Mexicans have higher net worth on average than blacks yet most of them are migrants and weren't born in the us and had to essentially start all over.

Dirk diggler
22 Aug 2017  #894

Also in the us if a black or brown person wants to go to certain colleges he or she has a far better chance of getting into some schools including some of the most prestigious ones as well as receiving significant aid for simply because skin color, even if test scores and gpa are far lower than their white or Asian counterparts and even below the schools median. So in that sense I would disagree that skin color prevents them to achieve anything. In fact the more ambitious and studious black and brown applicants have a very large leg up on their white and Asian counterparts. Its easier for them to get in and they enjoy far more scholarships funds financial aid etc which a white or Asian wouldn't receive. They even have a leg on against say a white women studying it or engineering as its a male dominated field yet a black or brown can who would otherwise be unqualified will not only be let in but the financial aspect will be made far more simple for him. There was even recently an article was published titled 'i faked being black to get into med school.'

Now would you want to be operated on by a guy who got into med school and later some hospital because of his skin color and not because of his academic performance? Teachers in certain unis are even told to pass black students even if they're failing so they can keep a certain level of black students. Thats very unfair and racist imo to the vast majority of the student body who has to put in work to achieve a certain grade. Actually now Asians have a harder time getting into certain schools because they're overrepresented on certain campuses. So an Asian with a near perfect gpa and near perfect act/sat won't be let in but a black guy with straight bs and cs and a merely above average gpa will take their place even though the Asian was clearly the better candidate. Seems pretty racist to Asians and kind of stupid to reject top talent because they're not the right race. Thankfully i never gave my dollars to a uni who supported such policies. I chose a uni for both bachelors and masters where answers on race were optional and didn't have a bearing on admittance. There nothing forcing the creation of a diverse environment yet nonetheless we had students from all races backgrounds and from all countries of the world from Venezuela to spain' turkey to saudi, China to Japan.

delphiandomine
22 Aug 2017  #895

There was even recently an article was published titled 'i faked being black to get into med school.'

Wasn't there that weird woman who pretended to be black a couple of years ago? That was a strange story for me...

From an educational point of view, I think one thing that needs to be done in the US is to find real role models for black kids. It's a waste of time putting middle class white suburban teachers into an inner-city classroom. If the schools are bad anyway, wouldn't it make sense to get some real badass black ex-military guys in there, even if they don't have formal qualifications? I'm pretty sure a class of poor black kids would be far more likely to listen to lessons about how to blow up bridges (physics, chemistry and mathematics) from some big tough black guy who had been in the army as an explosives expert than about those subjects from typical suburban teachers.

For me, one big problem in education throughout the world is the way that it tries to force kids into a certain direction. Look at English - goodreads.com/shelf/show/10th-grade-reading - how many of these books are going to inspire poor black kids from inner cities at a very vulnerable point in their lives? Screw that - get someone in to teach them how to write raps and other things that will inspire them. There's a high chance that they're not going to become great readers in life, so why not get them using English productively?

Dirk diggler
22 Aug 2017  #896

@delphiandomine

I use to tutor in the inner city (mostly black kids) for several years with an organization called community tutoring alliance. Id still be doing it now if I had the free time. There's many things I've learned while I was there about the system and bow these schools function and also take advatnagebof the situation. First off the teachers get paid more for going to bad schools here. Also most the teachers are black in these schools there's very few white ones. Most the teachers don't give a **** about the kids they really dont. Rheyre just there to collect a paycheck but not be teachers or role models. There are quite a few white teachers in cps districts that are majority Hispanic though. Not in black schools there's almost none. Even cps doesn't recommend white teachers go there out of safety. A lot of the cps teachers white black Hispanic whatever work in a chicago school right after they get a bachelors in education and work for 3 4 5 years then go to the suburbs where they get 100k salaries and way less riff raff. They look at inner city schools as just something they have to deal with as they climb the ladder. Also the worse a school performs the more money they get so admins have an incentive to keep standards low. Youd think poor performance would be investigated and corrected and high performance rewarded but in reality its the opposite.

But yes you have a very valid point. The issue is a lot with role models it would certainly help at least a few kids. For most of them they view people like chief keef as a role model but no one knows who Neil Tyson degrasse is. Another issue is the parents are rather foolish and most of the kids were produced simply so thrbparents could get a bigger section 8 apartment and more government aid. Its sad but true more often than not. Unfortunately the kids suffer the most. If you grew up as a 5 year old while your dads selling heroin to suburbanites listening to music about drugs guns and sex youd probably be screwed up too - and those are the lucky kids who actually have a dad around with some money to put on the table. However once your an adult you have a choice to make - follow in the same footsteps and wind up dead or in jail or learn a trade and live a middle class safe life. What I saw a lot is kids would join gangs as teens and preteens but many would get out as they hit 17 18 19 20 but some are idiots and will stay till there 40 and just keep going through a cycle of streets and prison toll eventually they either get a murder charge and put away for good or are murdered themselves.

The schools did often invite former gang members which had a very in your face attitude. Unfortunately most students didn't care to what they had to say. Some would even flash rival signs to disrespect them... And these kids are preteens lol. When i volunteered there out of a class of about 20 25 there was always 1 or 2 brighter minds who saw the folly of what's going around them. I tried to focus on each student equally but I can't force them to do their homework or convince each one that their chances of being the next rapper are slim and less than 1% of rappers are wealthy. Id explain even that their idol chief keef who use to live in my suburb was evicted because he couldn't pay the rest after spending too much money on jewelry. Anyway, thered always be one or two kids that you could just tell would be the ones who would make it out and become like a cop firefighter doctor whatever. Usually id try to at least give those one or two kids the extra time. It might seem unfair or not right to not give the same attention to the rest but believe me, I tried. Not only will they not listen theyll be extremely disrespectful and call you whitey cracker whatever. You have to have thick skin to do this kind of stuff.

johnny reb
22 Aug 2017  #897

one thing that needs to be done in the US is to find real role models for black kids.

They are called FATHERS who are married to their mother which sadly over 70% are not nor do they even live in the same house.
When you have the Liberal Socialist teachers teaching kids about Adam and Steve and my mom's wife and am I sure that I am a boy or girl do you really wonder why the kids are screwed up.

wouldn't it make sense to get some real badass black ex-military guys in there,

No, it would make more sense to have FATHERS who took their children to church on Sunday morning and teach them the word of Jesus Christ and then to a ball game Sunday afternoon.

That's how kids learn morals, responsibility and accountability.
Again the Socialist Left Marxist teach just the opposite what the Good Book does which is the root of the problem.
Once they took God out of the schools is when this mess we have all started.
And the LEFT STILL doesn't get it as the Marxist Commie propaganda is still being taught by these substandard teachers.

Joker
23 Aug 2017  #898

The statue crisis has be averted, the new libby approved statues have arrived!


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jon357
23 Aug 2017  #899

Hits the spot nicely


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TheOther
23 Aug 2017  #900

Why is it that immigrants are able to accomplish this while others who have lived in the us for generations and speak the language have such a hard time?

You are making the false assumption that everybody in this country has the same chance to move up the social ladder. Whites, Asians, Hispanics, African Americans and Native Americans are not treated equally in the USA - I don't have to tell you that.


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