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NoToForeigners
5 Feb 2017  #271

is reducing our already intellectually reduced people to a bunch of boneheads.

I thought you are just a German immigrant in the US.

Lyzko
5 Feb 2017  #272

And just where ever did you get that bright idea??

NoToForeigners
13 Feb 2017  #273

Islam isn't a religion. It's ideology like communism or fascism. It is designed to govern nations. It introduces laws, "moral" system, administration AND religion. It should be banned in the West just like fascism and communism are.

Marsupial
13 Feb 2017  #274

I so agree. The evidence is there too for the uninformed. Ideology of conquest.

Lyzko
13 Feb 2017  #275

If that's what you people are saying about Islam, I shudder to think about what you're saying about Judaism:-)

It's really the flip side of the same old coin: hate goes by many names and hypocrisy's one of 'em!

Lenka
13 Feb 2017  #276

Is this equally offensive to you? fakt.pl/kobieta/moda-i-uroda/agata-i-kinga-duda-w-watykanie/n7yn7w8

Lyzko
13 Feb 2017  #277

Although I'll admit that Islam's literal meaning is "to submit to Allah", yes, I do find it offensive as we've all learned that associating one group with actions of every member of that group is just plain stupid, not to mention wrong, unjust and avoidable etc.

Think of Pres. Roosevelt's decision (actually, Sen. Breckenridge Long's decision) to deny the refugee Jews of Germany safe harbor in the States by sending back to Bremerhaven the S.S. Missouri nearly eighty years ago. His administration blamed the fear of Jewish Communists on not allowing them in, although it was never proven that ANY of the hundred-odd crew members had any connection with the Communist Party, similarly to Trump's justifying his ban on Muslims as owing to the suspicion that most are terrorists when such too has yet to be sucessfully proven.

And as far as the proposed wall along Mexico's Northern border, haven't we learned since '89-'90 that walls just don't work??!

Lenka
13 Feb 2017  #278

Sorry Lyzko I had tech problems so I was editing my post. My post was about the pictures in the article I linked.

Lyzko
13 Feb 2017  #279

Apologies, Lenko!

I finally uploaded the article only AFTER I sent my last message to you, now realizing I didn't answer your question accurately:-)
No, I don't find either image of either Kinga or her mother disconcerting especially, not being a Roman Catholic, however!

It's certainly easy though to see where someone such as yourself might be offended.

Lenka
13 Feb 2017  #280

I'm not actually even though I'm an atheist.
My point was more that if someone finds the pics of Swedish politicians offensive then they should also oppose Polish women being forced to cover hair in Vatican.

Atch
14 Feb 2017  #281

they should also oppose Polish women being forced to cover hair in Vatican.

Who forced them? When did this happen? There is no such rule in the Vatican. Here it is from the horses' mouth! Dress code for an audience with the Pope and general visits to the Vatican:

papalaudience.org/dress-code
The one stipulation is that the shoulders must be covered and that dresses must be at least knee length. I consider that to be acceptable. In general terms, one should dress appropriately for an occasion and skimpy tops and mini skirts are not, in my view, appropriate for church or a religious setting. I think must civilized people would agree with that. Note that men are not permitted to wear vest tops or shorts though the shorts rule may be relaxed in very hot weather. However most men are likely to be wearing Bermuda style shorts, which whilst not exactly elegant, are not 'immodest', just a bit informal.

Lyzko
15 Feb 2017  #282

I too would find wearing Bermuda shorts in any house of worship decidedly tasteless! All the most regrettable result of over-permissiveness:-)

johnny reb
25 Feb 2017  #283

Trump's justifying his ban on Muslims as owing to the suspicion that most are terrorists

Sources please as I find that statement being VERY wreckless with the truth.

There is just to much that does not make sense to me about Muslims.
Things like if you grow and refine heroin for a living but morally object to the use of liquor makes no sense to me.

Lyzko
25 Feb 2017  #284

Sure, Johnny, the sources are needed when you don't agree with the truth being presented, but when it's what YOU agree with, sources be damned, right?! I know you and how your mind (or the lack thereof) works all too well, you can't snow me:-)

NoToForeigners
25 Feb 2017  #285

Like we say in Poland.

Nie każdy Muzułmanin to terrorysta ale każdy terrorysta to Muzułmanin = Not every Muslim is terrorist but every terrorist is Muslim.
Or even better one.
Ręka, noga, mózg na ścianie. Tak się bawią Muzułmanie = An arm, a leg, a brain on the wall. That's how Muslims are having fun.

:)

johnny reb
25 Feb 2017  #286

Your usual Re - Direct but everyone knows that tactic of yours so we laugh at you AGAIN.
I simply ask to show us ANYPLACE that President Trump stated the following.

Trump's justifying his ban on Muslims as owing to the suspicion that most are terrorists

Please show us where he owing that MOST Muslims are terrorists.
In short Lyzko, that is one of your simple lies to belittle your President.
I think they are more polite now with Political Correctness and call it FAKE NEWS.
Since I am not politically correct I will call it "Lyzko's bull ****" of a lie.
See how a little lie by the Left goes a long way..........
I will happily retract that if you can produce a credible source where Trump ever made that racist remark.

delphiandomine
25 Feb 2017  #287

Not every Muslim is terrorist but every terrorist is Muslim.

Sorry, but for over 20 years, the British Army couldn't move by ground in parts of the UK because of the risk from white Catholic terrorists. Muslims have never achieved anything comparable. Likewise, ETA had the Basque Country firmly in their grip for many years despite the best efforts of the Spanish state.

Lyzko
25 Feb 2017  #288

By insinuating that a certain Hispanic-American judge cannot be impartial concerning Trump's Wall Plan because of that person's ethnic origin's pretty openly racist, Johnny! Gimmine Christmas, dude, what are ya waitin' for, for him to change into freakin' Pat Buchanan to recognize that our President harbors suspect attitudes, Jewish in-law window dressing and stained glass language nothwithstanding.

For pity's sake, man, don't listen to what he says, also watch what he DOES!!!

Ironside
25 Feb 2017  #289

By insinuating that a certain Hispanic-American judge cannot be impartial concerning Trump's Wall Plan because of that person's ethnic origin's pretty openly racist, Johnny

No is not. It simply display a suspicious mind. I would say that if that judge wouldn't be able to remain impartial, he shouldn't be elected a judge in the first place. I would be more concerned if he is affected by the progressive malady.

That heresy can well make a dent in his impartiality than all the Hispanic blood of Tijuana together.

NoToForeigners
25 Feb 2017  #290

Sorry, but for over 20 years,

When? Now? Yesterday? We are talking about now, Delph. No one cares about the past now and we aren't speaking about Spain or UK but Poland. The past won't suicide bomb my family tomorrow.

johnny reb
26 Feb 2017  #291

Your usual Re - Direct but everyone knows that tactic of yours so we laugh at you AGAIN.

Trump's justifying his ban on Muslims as owing to the suspicion that most are terrorists

Still not able to back up your false innuendo.........
Trump never said any such thing and you know it so what makes you post such B.S. ?
President Trump is just enforcing the laws that are already on the books since our last failure of a president didn't have the balls to do it.

You Libtards object to Trump enforcing the laws of the United States because you want to retain the illegal "Votes" that are being deported.
That is the truth of the matter innit.
Trump is not a racist towards Muslims, Jews or Mexicans in the sense that he just is demanding that they enter our country legally.
It's o.k. to say Black lives matter but if Trumps says White lives matter he instantly becomes a racist.
Get a clue son.

TheOther
26 Feb 2017  #292

...he just is demanding that they enter our country legally

You mean like those greencard holders that were prevented from entering the USA because they came from a country on the travel ban list?

johnny reb
26 Feb 2017  #293

They got in...................... eventually.
Bet they won't be going to those banned countries again anytime soon.

delphiandomine
26 Feb 2017  #294

The past won't suicide bomb my family tomorrow.

Really? May I remind you that the last terrorist attack in Poland was carried out by a white, Polish Catholic in Wrocław?

mafketis
26 Feb 2017  #295

May I remind you that the last terrorist attack in Poland

Not really a terrorist attack, the word 'terrorist' implies some kind of social or political or religious cause.

There's not much evidence of what it is he was trying to achieve...

NoToForeigners
26 Feb 2017  #296

terrorist attack

You need to learn the definition of terrorism first. Terrorism aims at generating fear that has a purpose and that purpose is what terrorists aim for. Guy in Wrocław was just a nutter trying to kill.

Polonius3
26 Feb 2017  #297

just a nutter

Aren't all terrorists nutters of sorts?

NoToForeigners
26 Feb 2017  #298

Sure they are but there is something else behind attacks. They use fear to achieve their higher goals. Nutters like the one in Wrocław have no goal beside the act of violence itself.

TheOther
26 Feb 2017  #299

They got in...................... eventually.

After a federal court stopped Trump's illegal action...

Aren't all terrorists nutters of sorts?

Yes, and almost all of them are religious nutters.

Lyzko
26 Feb 2017  #300

Both Trump's delivery as well as his message are odious. Johnny, no way of rationalizing or getting around it!

Not all Muslims are any more terrorists than Americans are all murderers who should never be allowed into Vietnam after we beat hell out of that poor country, murdering millions of her innocent citizens. As in any way, the guilty were punished along with the others (...in a battle NEVER even declared a war!!!).


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