Kids raised without fathers are 20 x more likely to end up in jail-NAACP

This interesting and thought-provoking video refers mainly to America's Negro community as seen by an expert from the NAACP. But it also contaisn comaprative references to the non-Black communtiy. In general, it shows that single motherhood spells trouble and tragedy for the fmaileis inovlved and for society as a whole.
One noteworthy quote: Subsidising bad behaviour creates more bad behaviour. The welfare system harms those it was supposed to help.

prageru.com/courses/political-science/black-fathers-matter#.V17jISck_RU.mailto

And what about kids being raised by two fathers or two mothers rather than father and mother. Have any studies been conducted yet or it is too early for that? This is a genuine question as it may eventually turn out it is better for a kid to be raised by two fathers than to be raised without any father at all. But I also have my doubts if being raised by yet another father in place of the mother may turn out to be all that good for a kid.

I'm not aware of any studies but one thing is sure: if they come up with results that show the downside of single-gender parents, they will be suppressed. The researchers jobs and tenuire may be threatened. 10 years ago one could still read about the health, cutlrual and social threats posed to the general community by the LGBT agenda but the PC dictatorship has since quietly removed them.

There you go.

Yes, because only propagandistic, doctored or sugar-coated "results" perpetuating such stereotpyes as "two daddies are the same as real parents" would be allowed. Any negative findings would be suppressed. The PC dictatorship takes its cues from Hitler, Stalin and 1984!

Don't be silly, Po...

Stonewalling again? You knwo that anything not in agreement with the official LGBT line is conveniently dubbed "homophobic", so they claim they are not suppressing freedom of expression but simply removing hate speech. Very clever and convenient. But sadkly they have succeeded in intimidating many influential people into self-censorship or sielnce. That's how all totalitarian systems operate.

No such thing, except in your unhealthy imagination.

You however, would love the narrative to be controlled according to your personal biases.

Anyway, what would you do to a single mother? Force her to marry?

"Scripture opposes homosexual practices by direct comment and also by clearly implied disapproval. The Bible treats such practices as self-evidently abnormal. ... Attempts to establish or promote such relationships as viable alternatives to heterosexually-based family life do not conform to God's will for society."
That statement in a Salvation Army newsletter is absolutely true regarding what Holy Writ teaches. But they were so pressured, brow-beaten, intimidated and threatened that the SA, althouhg they still believe in the scripżtuiral narration, remvoed that statement becuase they knew what was good for them. Just one of countless examples of the PC dictatorship you claim does not exist.

So what?

BTW, your quote was from an article by a 20 something intern and was disowned (without any pressure form anywhere) as soon as it appeared. Just a lie from you like all the others you peddle.

And what's that got to do with the children of single mothers? What does it have t do with supporting disadvantaged families? What's the connection with crime rates within minority communities in America? Nothing, just an excuse for your repellant and hypocritical rantings.

You really do come across from posts like that as an individual with absolutely no redeeming features, as sordid on the forum as in real life...

Check it out: in all communities children of single mothers are at a big disadvantage:
No male role model; its substitute sought in drug dealers and gangs; poor at school; more likely to drop out early; run-ins with the law; early nicotine, alcohol, drug and sexual initiation; unstable relationships; more likely to end up in prison...
You're damn right they're disadvantaged and who is the blame? Not the kids, but their parents and all those (celebrities, media, popcultrue) who try to glamourous single motherhood as a "trendy" lifestyle option!


The family, Church and educational system as well as the opinion-moulding media and popculture communtiy should work closely together to discourage such problems. At present, it is popcultrue's bad examples promtoed by trendy idols that effectively "force" teens to misbehave by making it seem cool, cutting edge or whatever they call it these days.

Given that "such problems" have existed for centuries I doubt they'll suddenly have much success now. And what to do about women who choose not to have a partner? Better to support those families than stigmatise them as you would doubtless relish doing.

Well actually Polly it's not related to the single status of the mother but to her social class. That's what the studies show. In simple terms the studies show that if the mother is an educated, middle class woman her child will generally do well and if she's a poorly educated, working class woman her child will experience all the usual disadvantages that go along with that. Of course there are always exceptions but on the whole that's how it works.

Manners and respect have no social class.
A good example was during the "Ferguson Riots" when t.v. news camera's were on it.
One poor 'black' single mother saw her 17 year old son with his hoodie and sunglasses on the t.v. shouting at the police and protesting in downtown Ferguson with a gang of hooligans.
The mother got on the bus and went downtown to get her son.
It was captured on t.v. of her going up to her son kicking him in the behind, slapping him in the face a couple of times and grabbing him by his ear taking him home.
An interview with that mother and son was done the next day on t.v. with the son apologizing publically to the police for his foul mouth and actions.
His mama stated that she did not want her son getting shot by the police and had brought her son up better and as long as he was living under her roof he would address adults as, yes mam and no sir.
This proves that it is all in how you are brought up no matter single mother, social class, color, poor, etc. and not a pity party for an excuse to live in denial.
When I see out of control kids my first thought is, "I wonder when the last time was that someone who cared took him/her to church and fishing. :-]

Totally agree with that. Plenty of well educated, rich families who are pig ignorant and arrogant. Plenty of people from the humblest backgrounds who are are nature's gentlemen and ladies.

The point I was addressing Johnny was the suggestion that it's single parenthood that's to blame for people failing in life. It's coming from a socially/economically disadvantaged background that sets people up for failure. The studies which compare kids from such backgrounds with each other, rather than their better off peers, show that there is actually no difference between the attainments of poor kids from single parent families and poor kids from two parent families.

"socially/economically disadvantaged background that sets people up for failure,

So how come I didn't fail, my family had nowt and we lived in a SH$t hole ghetto, I know plenty of others who also have had a hard start in life but made it, yeah I also know single parents who have reached the top of their career, disadvantaged background ????.

Oh yea my brother in law loser moans about being disadvantaged in life , he grew up in the posh part of town, so when people say some "well educated, rich families who are pig ignorant and arrogant" spot on.

Education is the key and it is free to all who are prepared to listen, I used to get school dinner free too which was a bonus.

I think that today if you don't own a Iphone you would be classed as "socially/economically disadvantaged"

Same here. Sadly I can think of many many more who didn't make it.

I can think of many many more who didn't make it,

Why was that?, any common denominator ?

More that you and I managed to go somewhere, do something. Most don't have that.

I suspect it will take a lot of money and several generations just to bring the standards in society up to those of Germany.

The problem is that today many teachers complain their biggest challenge is keeping some semblance of order for 45 minutes. Kids are more interested in texting, emailing, chatting, making dates, commenting on classmates' fashions (girls) and suchlike. Not much learning goes on in such circumstacnes. Sure, there are always a few All-A star pupils, crammers, nerds, etc. But schools whisk through the masses who often go through the educational system virtually unscatched by knowledge. Holding someone back is not PC.

Why would teachers want to hold kids back? And what does that have to do with single-parent families?

Never heard of flunking? A pupil that didn't made the grade should repeat the same class, otheriwse dimwitss are beign turned out into the world. Single-mother families are notorious for producing poor learners, school drop-outs, kids that seek the missing father figure in local hoodlums and drug dealers, do drugs, run afoul of the law and end up behind bars. But except for those few minor issues, unwed motherhood is great. Go for it!

That sounds American.


All you do is misanthropically moan; you hate the world, you hate humanity, you hate life.

So tell us, how would you force a single mother to have a partner?

Why are you presuming that all single mothers are unwed to start with?

What about war widows who were left to bring up their children alone? In Britain there were over 500,000 children left without a father after WW1 for example. Those women would have been single mothers, would you sneer at them too?

You are full of the same tired old cliches about single parents, and this is the only reason you have started this thread, another chance by you to start with your usual moralising shyte.

The majority of women do not choose to be single mothers, they might be widowed, divorced, or perhaps the 'father' couldn't be bothered to stay around. Regardless, they have to do the job of both parents, and should be applauded for doing a very difficult job, not condemned.

No force is involved. The PC/LGBT crowd love to resort to intimidation, blackmail and blackballing, so they think that's the only way to go. No, through education, by persuasion, showing positive examples of loving complete families and the negative aspects of dysfunctional households which harm not only kids but all concerned, including society as a whole. Simple as that!

Sounds very Victorian and nothing new at all. Didn't work then so why do you think it would work now?


You really are a nasty piece of work.

So your ideal are dysfunctional households? Interesting! The PC/LGBT story is one of unending attemtps to undermine and discredit the family and all it stands for. Fortunately dysfunctional households are still a minority in Poland, not so in your sl*t, macho & deviant country! And all your stonewalling ain't gonna change that!
It is you who have clearly indicated that non-dysfunctional famileis in the UK went out with the Victorian era. Thank God I don't have to live there!

There you go again...


Don't be so silly, Po.

You really do come across as a vile old man.

When lost for a substantive riposte, you resort to insults. How original!
BTW, have I got this straight? Anyone who speaks well of complete, non-dysfucntional families is in your mind "vile".
And let me remind you that you are violating one of the no-no's of your beloved PC establishment by enaging in "ageism".

You do the same, all the time. You're a past master of name-calling.