Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades

Yeah, Russia is an expert on that topic...

Sb mentioned MREs, that is 24 hour rations for servicemen. Here is a film in which the Polish army ration is tested by a popular youtuber. She comments it is one of the best rations she has ever tested and tasted. Even American soldiers were envious about them in Iraq or Afghanistan. :):)

Funny

youtu.be/wC-_mYndz3M

Ukrainian army hell march parade. At 1:07 a female unit is marching. It looks like regular infantry. Amazing.

youtu.be/jIuuJRbYEiU

With all that male and female power, they don't need us. What a relief...


As a beneficiary or benefactor?

I just read a guy from PiS gov who is warning about the arrival of 1 million refugees from the war torn territory of Ukraine.
Relief - he added we would help them although it will be an immense logistic challenge.

It is obvious without saying that taking care of Ukrainian refugees is our moral duty, both as Christians and Slavic brothers.

How many are you prepared to take care of?

Should it come to that (and I don't think it will...) Ukrainians adapt relatively and quickly to Polish realities (not a million miles away from Ukrainian reality) and many would find employment (housing would be an issue but overall it wouldn't be the end of the world).

In terms of hosting refugees, language and culture.... is really important.

I can accommodate about 4, 5 people in one of our studio flats which is currently empty. A family with small kids could be even more than 5. And I am dead serious now.


Yes,that is why I am an optimist here.

Agreed.
I don't think this invasion will happen.
Putin is just checking out the potential and wants to see how weak the West is and where potential cracks could be targeted in the future.

He is a clever but evil man who is playing the long game.
Too clever to invade Ukraine.

1. For how long?
2. Who is going to pay for their food, health care, and education?


Evil? What did he do that makes him evil and could be introduced at his trial? Or is he evil the way Kennedy, Johnson, Bush, and Obama were evil?

Putin regularly builds up troops on the border (and then quietly sends them away when people stop being interested)

What's different now is that Biden _wants_ Russia to invade (possible to deflect attention away from his (and his dope fiend son's) participation in Ukrainian corruption...

As long as necessary. I mean - until the situation clears up. :):)


Adults have to go to work. That is condition number 1.

Of course.
He is threatening war!

@mafketis

I don't think Putin gives a tinkers cuss what Biden thinks.
Biden is irrelevant.

How many refugees live in your spare room now? There must be at least one in Poland.


He says the opposite. What evidence do you have that he does?
If you mean 100k guys with guns at the border, you should add "appears to be". Besides, one cannot wage a war alone. It takes two. All Ukraine has to do is restore the guy who was president before that mostly peaceful 2014 thingy to power, send a fu*ck-off letter to NATO, and a miracle...no war. Not even one shot fired - like in Crimea.

From dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10455045/Putin-agrees-hold-talks-Germany-France-Ukraine-NATO-squabbles

Putin splits NATO and cuts out Biden: Russian president agrees to hold talks with Germany, France and Ukraine as squabbling NATO countries fail to decide joint troop deployment and Joe says he'll go it alone

If you like Putin and can't stand Biden, this one is for you as all comments about Putin are positive, and about Biden - negative. And nasty.

Lol. Biden is zero match for Putin. Putin will demonstrate the stupidity of Biden without taking a breath.

Ignored for the fool he is. Hahahaha

Joe's a demented idiot.

Cut out Biden. Putin is a smart man.

Now my question. Where are the PF idiots who used pee and drool when Biden was elected? You can come out now.

It's OK to be a Euromoron once in a while.

Good article. But it shows that Putin is not doing anything strange with this "Normandy Group". They used the same countries to negotiate the cease fire in 2015.

That said. I do not trust Germany or France. Germany in my opinion is and always has been only out for themselves. France the same to a lesser extent. Both try to control the EU, and both have openly stated they want the EU to become the "Federation State" for all EU members. Much like the USA.

How long before someone blows up Nordstream 2?

Only "Federation State" has a future. Otherwise our enemies like Russia, China or USA will be too strong.

Russia Agrees To Move Naval Exercises Away From Irish Coast After Outcry

Russia decided to relocate the naval exercises as a "gesture of goodwill"
,-)

Translation from a diplomatic jargon to plain English: simple Irish fishermen played Russia like a fiddle.

rferl.org/a/russia-navy-drills-ireland-outcry/31677605.html

@Spike31; Irish fishermen
Well, well, Russian afraid, they (Irish fishermen) would catch some Russian submarine....

Good Idea!

No, there is no age limit for german chancellors either....hell, there is not even a time-limit like in the US....


No, that was me!

France is not a fan of federations at all, being a central state and all that.....

since when is USA an enemy of Europe (maybe you watch German TV too much)

@Bratwurst Boy
Your new PM said he wants the EU to become the Federalist State, so has Macron. The idea of the EU governing every country is not what the EU was begun for. No one else wants France or Germany in charge of anything.

Federation is not what people want. And no one wants Germany or France in control. Only France and Germany want control, and every time that has happened its been wildly successful hasn't it?

How do you know that?


I don't want that either....

You understand what a Federation is???


Talks Show Hosts? How are their chances?

You are right and I am so glad that the UK got out of this mess when it did.

Let Pope attack Russia. Naked. Like a madman and heretic of Pachamama as he is. Poland is wise. Not this time. Nope. Poland is not a donkey.

@Alien

Imagine how bad it would look like for the Russian if a jolly Irish fisherman (is there any other kind tbh?) got hurt during those naval exercises.

That would be a PR disaster.

They've already pushed Finland and Sweden closer into the embrace of NATO and irreversibly alienated their former soviet republic: Ukraine.

Russian foreign politics is a disaster no matter how savvy Putin looks on the RT TV screen.

@Bratwurst Boy
Every country has and most want to maintain their own sovereign borders, laws, and traditions. No one wants Brussels, Berlin or Paris calling the shots for the entire EU on all matters. Not everyone wants the "melting pot" of cultures that has proven to be a disaster in the US and in those EU countries that has embraced that theory.

If the EU legalizes marijuana for instance, why should Poland or any other country recognize that EU law? If Poland wants to legalize marijuana, like many states have in the USA, why would any EU law make it illegal like the USA? Laws, and the centralization of those laws is one of the greatest conflicts within any and every "federation" ever contemplated.

Europe is a continent of country's with widely varied customs, cultures and laws. It should remain this way. The EU was designed to be an economic tool, and has over time due to the control of power hungry politicians become something it was never intended to be. England was wise to get out, but they could afford to. Others can not afford to or I think several would.

Germany being so weak on Russia now is really funny to watch. Like it was not predictable.

And yet ................

"This evening I received a letter confirming the Russian exercises will be relocated outside of Ireland's EEZ."

Of course the fishermen were a help.

I suppose the Russians think it's a bit of good PR so everybody is happy.


They're not actually that simple. We Irish are a devious bunch :)) It's all down to the gift of the gab. Basically it's diplomacy and it's something that Poland is shockingly bad at.

Read about Frank Aiken , the Irish minister for foreign affairs and the Irish Resolution ie The Treaty for the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons signed by all UN members in 1968. He started the ball rolling on that in 1958 - no joy, couldn't get it passed. So each year he returned to it until four years later it was unanimously adopted by all UN members. We had no diplomatic relations with the Soviets at the time but Aiken was invited to sign the treaty in Moscow and Ireland was the first nation to ratify that treaty. A tiny, very poor country as we were then, having such an influence on international affairs is most unusual.


Irish fisherman are a fairly quiet bunch. You'd never realise how tough and courageous they are. The seas they fish in are treacherous and there have been many deaths. If you visit any of the coastal communities on the west coast of Ireland you'll find a history of men being lost at sea going back generations. That's why we have those 'fishermen's jerseys', you know the Aran jumpers with the cable twists. Each family had its own pattern so that when the bodies were washed up they could be identified.

.....really....has it! The US a weak failed state?

Thing is, that:


is a reason for that:


If we remain that way cluttered quarreling Europe will always be an easy prey for Russia or China or every other predator out there who is unified.

@Bratwurst Boy
Have you ever been to the US? I bet you have not. Yes, it is a failed experiment. And it has been failing for nearly half its existence.

Multiculturalism worked in the US until the country outgrew the need for it. Areas of the country became and continue to be very segregated. Multiculturalism in Germany is a proven disaster with the recent EU and German lead immigration policies. The EU should not interfere in any countries immigration policies and should simply let each country determine what it wants to do. Not a difficult position when there are much larger EU issues to tackle.

Germany will remain weak with the current leadership. Russia has too much leverage with Nordstream2. Get over the Nazi guilt that plagues the country and really become a part of the EU by actually defending the rest of the EU. That will get people to see Germany in a new light.

Are we talking about the same country?

Well...multicultural US is still the only country which could kick everybody's ass....no european country on itself could! We have to beg "failed" multicultural "mess" US for help whenever someone looks at us the wrong way....our "widely varied customs, cultures and laws" are not helping us with that at all!

You are mixing things here!


The EU is just a union of still very independent countries....something even that is to much for you and you call "failed"....to truly be able to defend Europe the EU needs a common foreign policy, and especially a common military.....all that needs another political foundation....a Federation...

You can't have it both ways!