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Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades



Cojestdocholery
6 Mar 2022  #3811

It's about the fact that there are still Polish people who behave by NKVD, while it was done Poles.

What fact? I don't trust it, 'democratic' or not. What Polish people? The same people who were torturing Polish heores after the war?
I hate your kind of petty sentimentalism, its the worst!

I hate the way you cannot quote on this site.

Paulina
6 Mar 2022  #3812

@Cojestdocholery, factory workers were torturing Polish heores after the war? lol

I hate your kind of petty sentimentalism, its the worst!

It's not "sentimentalism". Unlike you, I'm simply not in denial of what Poles were capable of.

Alien
6 Mar 2022  #3813

Paulina my friend, we live in 2022 in Poland. Ein Judenpogrom is in Poland today not possible but ein Palestinensapogrom is very possible but not in Poland.

pawian
6 Mar 2022  #3814

The Ukraine President is a disaster. He has to be removed.

No, he isn`t.
No, he doesn`t. :):):)

Shelves is full.

Matter of time when shelves are empty and hyperinflation strikes. Ban on import of components will halt the production of most goods.
It would be really better if RuSSia surrendered now to avoid prolonging this agony which is completely useless coz RuSS-Asian savages will never be allowed to have Ukraine. .

Paulina
6 Mar 2022  #3815

Paulina my friend, we live in 2022 in Poland.

I know that. I'm simply giving the Kielce pogrom as an example of historical denial of which people are still capable of even in our times.

PolAmKrakow
6 Mar 2022  #3816

@pawian
Russia cant surrender now. Putin can not give up now. He is losing and being embarrassed. The Russian army is a $hi* show, a joke. Now Russia not only has to press on, but they have to do it before It warms up and the ground thaws. The next 10 days to two weeks are critical for this Russian war. If Ukraine can continue to hold out, the end of Russia as we have known it will fast approach.

Losing the war will not only effect military leaders, but it will effect the entire population who lost sons and brothers for nothing. Coupled with the crushing economic sanctions, a looming oil and gas embargo around the world and the coming default on Russian debt, and you have the makings of a civil uprising in Russia that will make the Yeltsin events look like child's play.

The west will be inconvenienced by higher gas prices. So what. That will force the US to start opening up more ground and pumping more oil. Even Biden will cave in on it because the people will demand it. More inflation? Ok, we can deal with that too because everyone is united in ending the Russian state.

Russia is a poor country, and they will experience a new definition of poor for many years to come unless Putin is taken out quickly. They will blame the west of course and forget that it was Putin who gave this to his people by starting the war. Russia is dead, just not buried yet.

mafketis
6 Mar 2022  #3817

in denial of Armenian genocide

That was just the first (and worst) of several waves of repression against non-Turk non-muslims (ataturk, not so devout himself, had adopted the one nation one language one religion model of nation statehood). The recent Turkish sereis Kulup (the Club) deals with two of those... worth a watch...

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Club_(Turkish_TV_series)

Every country tends to heroize characters with.... dubious pasts. Bandera was a product of a brutal time who was not actually directly involved in the worst elements of the movement he started.

Russian magnification of him into some kind of all-time mass murderer is pathetic and shows just how weak they are...

Crnogorac3
6 Mar 2022  #3818

I think it's nationalism, not Nazism.

threadreaderapp.com/thread/1499884883056934913.html

PolAmKrakow
6 Mar 2022  #3819

@Crnogorac3
"In addition, the bodies of dead soldiers should be taken out of the territory of Ukraine "as soon as possible". Everything is to take place in an implicit way, at night. Military personnel are to be buried in mass graves, without a name, only with a number.

The document also indicates that if it is not possible to transport the bodies of soldiers, they should be "destroyed on the spot".

Taken from Russian military documents. Soldiers to only be identified by a number. MEAT, thats all any Russian is.

pawian
6 Mar 2022  #3820

who lost sons and brothers for nothing.

Yes.

a civil uprising in Russia

Yes.

The west will be inconvenienced by higher gas prices

Yes.

So what. everyone is united

Yes.

Amen.

pawian
6 Mar 2022  #3821

And russian troops will be there for at least couple of years,

There will have been no RuSS-Asian troops in Ukraine by the end of this year. Wanna bet? :):) (except Crimea and their previously occupied Donbas area.)

Crnogorac3
6 Mar 2022  #3822

1

Except that ZOG was already committed to putting the prices of everything up tenfold in order to:

1/ destroy the middleclass and small business

2/ as part of the Global Warming/Green New Deal kwisis

3/ own nothing and you will be happy

4/ end personal transport

5/ herd everyone into the cities, etc...

2

3

4

youtu.be/VKF8eI9QbIA

Crow
6 Mar 2022  #3823

Polish officers in Katyń weren't shot in the head "by accident".

Sure. Order for that gave same those who created Ukraine. And you know that train with Lenin came from western Europe and again new trains coming from the west of Europe.

PolAmKrakow
6 Mar 2022  #3824

@Crnogorac3
I hope Putin isn't paying you much because you really are a bad amateur at this.

cms neuf
6 Mar 2022  #3825

The difference between the guy on the left and the guys on the right ?

They were all elected in fair elections - not just for President but as Senator, governors, congressmen

And Pappy Bush flew a fighter plane in combat

Would be awesome if Russia had a democratic leader who was able to face his people and not hide in a bunker

Atch
6 Mar 2022  #3826

Attempted evacuation of Mariupol has failed again :(

Crow
6 Mar 2022  #3827

Sure failed. Croat nazi ustashe using people there as living shield.

Novichok
6 Mar 2022  #3828

I noticed a pattern here. Crnogorac3 posts this:

1/ destroy the middle class and small business

2/ as part of the Global Warming/Green New Deal kwisis

3/ own nothing and you will be happy

4/ end personal transport

5/ herd everyone into the cities, etc...

and some a-hole posts that:

I hope Putin isn't paying you much because you really are a bad amateur at this.

Crow
6 Mar 2022  #3829

On the bright side of this situation in Ukraine is that EU won`t survive to molest Poland anymore. Kurw* EU shell die.

cms neuf
6 Mar 2022  #3830

You are even more of an amateur than Crnogorac - but you have senility as an excuse, so we don't mind too much. You are a harmless grandad who we can stick in the corner with some sernik and ignore your dribbling

PolAmKrakow
6 Mar 2022  #3831

@Novichok
Time to get up from you nap? Or your wife let you play with her laptop again? You are pathetic. Traitor. Need some rope?

Korvinus
6 Mar 2022  #3832

To be honest, as I observe the international economic dogpiling against Russia, I'm becoming the increasingly nervous man.

There is something tremendously scary about the fact that the world at large can essentially force a country to adopt mercantilism by banning it from everything.

Further, the mass-banning of ruski everything everywhere including media channels on youtube etc. is all fine and dandy, but it sets an incredibly dangerous precedent that is already spiralling out of control. Today you are sentenced to damnatio memoriae for being a 'putinbot', tomorrow the definition of putinbot becomes 'anyone who disagrees with me', and the next day your assets are seized for insulting BLM.

The casus of stuff like Russia Today is particularly concerning to me. I'm not a fan of RT and consider it a propaganda tube, but I see little value in banning it, and I also see a major discrepancy between banning it and indiscriminatingly tolerating (even lauding) the absolutely blatant and ridiculous Ukrainian propaganda - even if it's very well-executed, I'll give them that.

Finally there's how everyone keeps cheering on this without any reflection, as well as the scale of browbeating everyone to do more to punish Russia and Russians, to the point where it's not even approaching a witch hunt, it IS a witch hunt. Butthurt that Valve refuses to ban Ruski users? Why would it even consider doing so?

Polish internet is particularly bad when it comes to the final point now too. Hungary has declared it won't be sending weapons to Ukraine. I fully respect that and the Huns are entitled to mind their own business, especially since they're more or less declaring neutrality in the whole shebang by first saying they won't obstruct sanctions targeted at Russia, and now by doing this. But it's not enough, no. Hungary is now the enemy because they refuse to openly support Ukraine - it's not even that they voice support for Russia, because they aren't. It's that they refuse to explicitly take part in the conflict.

As if the tribalism in modern society couldn't get any worse.

pawian
6 Mar 2022  #3833

shell die.

Shell has been caught dealing RuSSian oil. Shame on them. Boycott!!!

Need some rope?

Yes, Novi definitely needs some more exercise - this sedentary life style badly influences his intellect. :))


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Bratwurst Boy
6 Mar 2022  #3834

As if the tribalism in modern society couldn't get any worse.

As it was in WWII....where is the difference? Good vs Evil anybody?

cms neuf
6 Mar 2022  #3835

It is a bit much and too hysterical but for Russia it is totally self inflicted. They started this war for no immediate reason.

That happened to come at a time when the world is sick of the idiocy - not just Putin but Orban, Trump, Bolsonaro, Kaczymski and all the other geriatric fools. I realize they all have some popular support (bolstered by theft and patronage) but this is the time for people like Orban to decide which side they are on.

PolAmKrakow
6 Mar 2022  #3836

@Korvinus
You make some good arguments, well put. Hungary though, by not sending arms, better not ask for help when they are next on the hit list. Make no mistake they are on the short list. Moldova knows they are number one or two on the list next, and they are asking to get in the EU now because they can't survive alone.

My points being, that I agree with banning certain TV and other items is useless. Banning their advertising revenue and things like this is smart. Choke off the money and you kill the fight.

Remember though, that Russia brought this on. They had ample warning of the consequences. Consequences are the only way to react without reacting with equal or greater than violent armed force. F the opinion of Russian people, they could get rid of the guy causing the problems, but they are either too stupid or too scared, either way he is a threat to them and the rest of us. Like Trump, the US got what they asked for, same with Biden, same with Russians and Putin.

This is not simply a matter of causes and effects, this is a matter of ideology and quite frankly good and evil. Good equaling Freedom and Evil equaling oppression. It really boils down to those simple sight lines.

Keep in mind, my personal thoughts are that the USA is really a dying empire as much as Russia is a lot closer to death. While the US and NATO were crumbling, Russia took the wrong opportunity to try this war and by doing it they have brought the US and NATO closer. Big mistake when thinking Biden the dove would not listen to the CIA and military like Trump didn't listen. Tribalism will never leave, there is safety in numbers, just ask Ukraine.

Novichok
6 Mar 2022  #3837

Yes, Novi definitely needs some more exercise

That's exactly what makes morons morons - deflect to personal and nasty. I am talking about 30 million dead Soviets and NATO and the morons here talk about my age. What would you a-holes do if I didn't say what it is? Then you would invent my profile to fit your moronic agenda and go from there.

Crow
6 Mar 2022  #3838

Now Varvara. Let her sing and we Poles and Serbs show how we nicely enjoy while contemplate on nazi defeat >

Sestra Varvara >

ВАРВАРА - КАТЮША | KATYUSHA | Концерт на Поклонной Горе "Салют Победы!

> youtube.com/watch?v=3kJqPVVympo

ps

pawian
6 Mar 2022  #3839

What would you a-holes do if I didn't say what it is?

Wouldn`t you tell us your life story??? I can`t believe it, darling. You told us everything coz you love it.

we Poles and Serbs

No, Poles don`t want to have anything in common with Serb nationalist murderers. Bugger off.

Crow
6 Mar 2022  #3840

@pawian

oh you smoker of the dic* who ruin every party.


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