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Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades



Histmag
6 Mar 2022  #3841

nytimes.com/2022/03/06/world/europe/ukraine-irpin-civilian-death.html
What a *************

Novichok
6 Mar 2022  #3842

From cnn.com:

"We are, here, very afraid that we will become part of Russia. We don't want history to repeat like with Crimea," she said, referring to Russia's annexation of the Ukrainian peninsula in 2014."We're less afraid to be under bombs than to become a part of Russia."

Yes, moron, a bomb is better than no bomb in Russia - that one big gulag where the thugs shot children on the way to school.

Oops, sorry, I think I am confusing countries. That dementia...

And this:

It's something Abba is convinced won't happen in his city. Though he is consumed with fears of Russian annexation, he argued that in contrast to Crimea, which fell relatively bloodlessly, Kherson has put up a stiff resistance to occupation.

No, moron, Crimea didn't fall bloodlessly. Crimea bloodlessly voted in a referendum - supervised by foreign observers - to join Russia. Today, that vote would be the same. No shots fired, nobody sent to a gulag, nobody executed. Life is normal.

BTW, what did that "stiff resistance" get you?

Bratwurst Boy
6 Mar 2022  #3843

ukraine-irpin-civilian-death

They mußt have aimed at them directly.....I really hope they get the murderers to the Haag!

The world is watching (and registering all of that).

Novichok
6 Mar 2022  #3844

I really hope they get the murderers to the Haag!

Do you mean the same court that heard the case of the Western murderers in Iraq and Afghanistan or some other court?

Crow
6 Mar 2022  #3845

The world is watching (and registering all of that).

Start with Vatican`s crimes on Serbs. Oh yes, on Poland, too. Then continue with Germanic and Anglo crimes.

Bratwurst Boy
6 Mar 2022  #3846

Do you mean the same court that heard the case of the Western murderers in Iraq and Afghanistan or some other court?

What I wonder is why these wars so far away seem to mean so much more to you than that what happens right now in Ukraine? Why is that?

These are our neighbours....the killed family on that pic could be my neighbours....f*** it could happen to us tomorrow if that Krazy in the Kreml loses his last braincell too...

Novichok
6 Mar 2022  #3847

Then continue with Germanic and Anglo crimes.

I see you want to block the road to the high moral ground. Let's see if they find another way to get there.

Why is that?

Because "war crimes" are crimes regardless of where they take place. See "high moral ground" above.

Tacitus
6 Mar 2022  #3848

Crimea bloodlessly voted in a referendum -

A referendum that was a complete sham, with no more legitimacy than Russia's current invasion.

Their brave resistance was not in vain. They slowed down the Russian advance and bought time for the rest of the Ukrainw to organize its' defence.

Novichok
6 Mar 2022  #3849

A referendum that was a complete sham,

Simple. When this bs is over, go to Crimea and ask a dozen random people if they would like to be Ukraine again.
I was going to mention polls but I gave up because everything in Crimea is "a sham". In fact, all citizens of Crimea are KGB agents.

Crow
6 Mar 2022  #3850

I see you want to block the road to the high moral ground. Let's see if they find another way to get there.

I was just hijacking him. Imagine court and trial to those crimes. They will need at least 1000 years of trial to come to terms to patronize Russia.

Bratwurst Boy
6 Mar 2022  #3851

Because "war crimes" are crimes regardless of where they take place.

No need for "Whataboutism" then, is there....

Velund
6 Mar 2022  #3852

BTW: Is there any coverage in the MSM of the Sky News press group that came under fire from a territorial militia roadblock on the way out of town, and then the police told them that it was a Russian sabotage and reconnaissance group? ;) ;) ;)

Novichok
6 Mar 2022  #3853

No need for "Whataboutism" then, is there....

As I already explained, "whataboutism" is the best roadblock to the high moral ground for the hypocrite with a bad short memory.

Bratwurst Boy
6 Mar 2022  #3854

Good news:

The defenders are growing in number!

According to the information received from our brothers from Державна прикордонна служба України since the beginning of the Russian military invasion, 143 thousand of our compatriots have arrived in Ukraine, 80% of them are men.


That "short, quick liberation" will develop into a russian nightmare!

facebook.com/GeneralStaff.ua

the best roadblock to the high moral ground.

Right now you only come over as a supporter of Putin and his invasion....spitting on the Ukrainians, their righteous fight for their freedom and their victims....whats with that?

Novichok
6 Mar 2022  #3855

That "short, quick liberation" will develop into a russian nightmare!

The real nightmare is that it takes so long to end it one way or the other. But I guess if Texas broke away we would be told "whatever it takes".

pawian
6 Mar 2022  #3856

it was a Russian sabotage and reconnaissance group?

Fortunately, Ukrainians special forces are successfully dealing with them.

Bratwurst Boy
6 Mar 2022  #3857

But I guess if Texas broke away we would be told "whatever it takes".

Referendum first? ;)

Novichok
6 Mar 2022  #3858

Right now you only come over as a supporter of Putin and his invasion....

I never said I support killing. I support Russia's valid concern about the snake called NATO, its Article 5, and the possibility of the US getting involved in another Eurobullsh*it - this time possibly nuclear - in the reverse order of importance.

If I were assured that the US will never again get dragged into another crap in Europe, I would simply say go die a-holes and even make a donation to help Ukrainian refugees.

How many damn times do I have to repeat it?

Crnogorac3
6 Mar 2022  #3859

Putin will decommunize Ukraine. He said it openly

bitchute.com/video/6T1E0tAkISBV/

Novichok
6 Mar 2022  #3860

Referendum first? ;)

To be declared "a sham"? Anything lawful would be fine.

Putin will decommunize Ukraine. He said it openly

Did you know that according to Webster and based on statistics, "Jew" and "communist" are synonyms now?

PolAmKrakow
6 Mar 2022  #3861

@Histmag
This is why all Russians have to be seen as the same as the Russian soldiers. We will never be able to figure out who is who. Better to isolate all of them and kill the ones we know are guilty.

@Novichok
Haven't you learned yet that no one GAF about your explanations. I am pretty sure with the exception of a few other Russian trolls, that when you disappear again we will all hope it is for the final time.

@Velund
And you, like all Russians are about to get the pinch of an oil and gas embargo. It's coming. Your economy will completely collapse within the next 25 days. Russia will be bankrupt and unable to pay it's debts. This is your future, thank your leader for everything that will soon become a distant memory. Meanwhile POS like Novi will hide in basements playing with themselves and lose nothing because they are protected in the USA, and no one knows he is treasonous and a traitor. Another unfair outcome for Russians, oh so sad isn't it? Comrade Novi will be unscathed while you, your family, your friends and everyone you know starves. But Putin will eat lavishly at his billion dollar palace because you are all such pussies and dont take him out. Happy gulag.

AntV
6 Mar 2022  #3862

Seriously....another country invades my home, kills my family, makes me to a refugee and calls that "fighing nazism"....that is just sick!

And anybody who falls for it a special and new kind of stupid.

Bratwurst Boy
6 Mar 2022  #3863

How many damn times do I have to repeat it?

Till it becomes true?

You have been told the facts repeatedly by now....that NATO had Ukraine denied entry into NATO....that Ukraine has even given up their nuclear war heads for the promise of lasting peace....that Germany even demilitarized as to not irritate Russia....we did everything as Moscow wished! ERROR!!!!

To no avail....Putin still attacked and invaded....something he wouldn't had done if Ukraine would had NATO support or even better, had still their Nukes! There was no "encroaching", no "sneaking up".

It's time to put that straw argument in the bin, where it belongs!

What else do you have for a reason to support that invasion and that terrorizing of a peaceful country?

And yes, many Germans would also not be happy to be dragged into this war....we still don't start praising Putin now because of that!

Crnogorac3
6 Mar 2022  #3864

Kiev junta forces destroyed near the village of Kalinovka in the south of the liberated part of the DPR.

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Novichok
6 Mar 2022  #3865

.that the NATO had Ukraine denied the entry into NATO and EU...

What was denied yesterday can be undenied tomorrow. It means little or nothing. Russia's presence in Ukraine is the only guarantee. Before you respond, think Texas.

BTW, if the West does not really have any plans to include Ukraine in the EU or NATO, what is all that "fight till the last Ukrainians" about?

Would your Western underwear be all in knots if Russia invaded Mongolia?

AntV
6 Mar 2022  #3866

@Bratwurst Boy

Bing-FEAKING-O!, Beebs.

NATO has plenty of grievances itself--Moldova, nukes in Kaliningrad (?), Russian troops encircling Turkey, threatening member Denmark, cyber attacks, etc. So, this trope that Russia is an unprovoked violated victim of NATO aggression is non-sense.

Bratwurst Boy
6 Mar 2022  #3867

What was denied yesterday can be undenied tomorrow.

Oh that will be "undenied" tomorrow definitely! If something Putin has already achieved is to show Russia's neighbours the value of NATO membership!!! And the will for consideration of russian wishes is at an all time low.

Before you respond, think Texas.

Texas? Seriously? Are the Texanians(?) fighing membership in the USofA? Do they want out?

what is all that "fight till the last Ukrainians" about?

Fight for independence from Russia? Even their "swamp" is preferable to them than being ruled by that wannabe-Czar in the Kremlin? Freedom? Statehood? Choose one....

Would your Western underwear be all in knots if Russia invaded Mongolia?

Probably not....

Novichok
6 Mar 2022  #3868

And anybody who falls for it a special and new kind of stupid.

Good point. Just as it takes a new kind of stupid to believe that the US troops killing and dying in Iraq and Afghanistan were protecting "our freedoms".

Everybody has a handy bs excuse line. Russia - "nazis". West - "our freedom".

Bratwurst Boy
6 Mar 2022  #3869

Bing-FEAKING-O!, Beebs.

Yes? :)

Novichok
6 Mar 2022  #3870

Probably not....

I wonder why...Would it be because of the folder in the bottom drawer somewhere in DC with "Ukraine - Plan" on the cover?

Texas? Seriously?

Texas to DC is what Ukraine is to Moscow. Now that California is Spanish...

West - "our freedom".

I forgot "democracy". Sorry.


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