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Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades



pawian
6 Mar 2022  #3901

Update on the Special Operation:

Funny how you are lying with your update. It presents all areas where RuSS-Asian savages attacked as being under their control. But they aren`t.

PolAM was right when he said you are a lousy troll. It is so easy to debunk your lies.

Here is a real situation - RuSS-Asians achieved some gains, especially in the south, but got stuck everywhere and are losing thousands of men and loads of equipment from Ukrainian counterattacks.

Glory to fighting Ukraine!


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Novichok
6 Mar 2022  #3902

Maybe he truly did believe his own propaganda about a people in need (and only waiting for) liberation by their russian "brothers"...

That's what often happens to the "liberators". I know you don't like my whataboutism but I can't resist it...We made the same mistake in Iraq. Those crowds with flowers and American flags never happened. Last such place: Paris, 1945.

mafketis
6 Mar 2022  #3903

It presents all areas where RuSS-Asian savages attacked as being under their control. But they aren`t.

The thing is the Russian army moves by major roads and doesn't really control the land around them so AFAIK they've yet to bring a city under control... (shelling the crap out of it and surrounding it don't count).

Bratwurst Boy
6 Mar 2022  #3904

Those crowds with flowers and American flags never happened

I remember that too.....

Novichok
6 Mar 2022  #3905

This made my day...From dailymail.com:

'Indians, Africans and Middle Easterners, go to ANOTHER border': Nigerian student documents terrifying four-day escape from Kyiv... only to face racist guards at Polish boundary

Smart. They are not Ukrainians.

Crnogorac3
6 Mar 2022  #3906

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Miloslaw
6 Mar 2022  #3907

Peaceful countries usually not killing 14000+ of their own citizens

You are still listening to that Russian hearsay from your GF's friends in Eastern Ukraine...... sad..... you need to get to some truth and quick,

Before this escaltes and you become a silent key......

mafketis
6 Mar 2022  #3908

Another interesting video....

The current Russian regime is not the same Russian regime that existed two weeks ago....

Censorship has rapidly increased due to Russian military failure.

Escalation and threats of escalation have become their own end, not for any particular goal just escalation in and of itself.

Lots more interesting stuff...

youtube.com/watch?v=Jyni1VYT_hI

Cojestdocholery
6 Mar 2022  #3909

That was today, in case you haven't heard.

I'am sure it was a humantarian action or a the very least an anti-terrorist one.

OK with killing anything that moved"

Sad he hasn't got you.

Nigerian

Nigerian are always meet with rascism, maybe people just don't like Nigerians.

Miloslaw
6 Mar 2022  #3910

@Crnogorac3
You are just a very pathetic pro Russian troll.
Answer me this, and you wont, what did Ukraine do, exactly, to threaten Russia direcrly?

Novichok
6 Mar 2022  #3911

Nigerian are always met with rascism,

I just said that Poland did the right thing and now you call Poland racist? Co jest z toba do cholery?

Before it shows up here...The Russian POWs in Ukraine have every right to claim they were following orders. Nuremberg was for the decision-makers, not the German soldiers who had no choice other than to obey or be executed.

Miloslaw
6 Mar 2022  #3912

and now you call Poland racist?

Poland and all East European countries have always been racist to a degree.
I have seen this in the UK.
East Europeans start off with very negative views of dark skinned people, because they have no experience of them.
But after a while, they all learn and adjust, they still see these people as different, but they understand that they are human too.

Crnogorac3
6 Mar 2022  #3913

Answer me this, and you wont, what did Ukraine do, exactly, to threaten Russia direcrly?

Prediction in 2014 of Serbian military analyst Miroslav Lazanski (of Polish origin) in the event of a war breaking out between Ukraine and Russia.

twitter.com/krajiski_tajfun/status/1497259316671389705

"If Ukraine wants to enter Nato it won't enter it in its current borders."

"How Americans could not allow Russian missiles to be stationed in Cuba which fly in 5 minutes to Washington today Moscow cannot allow that American rockets to be in Ukraine which fly in 4 minutes to Moscow."

"If there is no strategic compromise regarding security between the West and Russia then Europe will enter into war."

THIS IS WHAT LAZANSKI SAID: NATO on the Ukrainian border is a matter of life and death for Russia
novosti.rs/c/planeta/svet/1090398/ovako-govorio-lazanski-nato-granici-ukrajine-rusiju-pitanje-zivota-smrti

"The only solution for Ukraine is to strictly adhere to the Minsk Agreements and to begin immediate implementation of them in a step by step fashion."

twitter.com/krajiski_tajfun/status/1499464297491095554

Lazanski had warned the Ukrainians in time and now it's Game Over.
alo.rs/svet/ruske-vesti/603434/miroslav-lazanski-ukrajina-najnovije-vesti/vest

How Ukraine's Jewish president Zelensky made peace with neo-Nazi paramilitaries on front lines of war with Russia
thegrayzone.com/2022/03/04/nazis-ukrainian-war-russia/

Tacitus
6 Mar 2022  #3914

cannot allow that American rockets to be in Ukraine which fly in 4 minutes to Moscow.

NATO had an agreement with Russia that no NATO forces would be placed East of the River Elbe, and NATO has kept its' word. Putin did not justify his invasion with NATO expansionism or "rockets", he very clearly stated that he wanted to undo Lenin's "mistake" of granting Ukraine independence.

mafketis
6 Mar 2022  #3915

Ukraine wants to enter Nato

Had anything formal been agreed upon? Or is Russia reacting to a possible, maybe, sometime, sort of problem from the future?

PolAmKrakow
6 Mar 2022  #3916

@Crnogorac3
The time for talking is over. The time for dying Russians is here. Put your theories up your a$$.

Ukraine about to receive a bunch of jets from Poland. Americans essentially ordered to leave Russia a few minutes ago. Once those planes take out what's left of Russian soldiers on the ground, Putin has a choice to make. Carpet bomb the entire country, seek some kind of resolution, or bring on the nukes.

Very close to put up or shut up time in Ukraine. I simply do not believe that you Putnazis have the balls to get into a real war with the west, and I dont believe Putin does either. Russia would be steam rolled.

Novichok
6 Mar 2022  #3917

"How Americans could not allow Russian missiles to be stationed in Cuba ...

...which fly in 5 minutes to Washington today Moscow cannot allow that American rockets to be in Ukraine which fly in 4 minutes to Moscow."

And that's what it is all about, children. Not "democracy", "autocracy", nazis, or Bandera.

On the other hand, Putin, as a gesture of goodwill, can always move Russia behind the Ural and turn over the Red Square to gays and their pride parades. Me, a genius again.

Crnogorac3
6 Mar 2022  #3918

Had anything formal been agreed upon? Or is Russia reacting to a possible, maybe, sometime, sort of problem from the future?

Both Ukraine and Georgia got invitations in 2008.

Georgia got screwed in 2008.

NATO welcomes Georgia's and Ukraine's aspirations for membership

At the Bucharest Summit, NATO Allies welcomed Ukraine's and Georgia's Euro-Atlantic aspirations for membership and agreed that these countries will become members of NATO.

nato.int/docu/update/2008/04-april/e0403h.html

Despite NATO assurances otherwise, even though former Warsaw Pact countries like Poland, the Baltic states, Bulgaria, Romania joining NATO to the Russians it was a bitter pill to swallow, they would learn how to live with it in time, Putin has always stated that Ukraine was the red line.

Korvinus
6 Mar 2022  #3919

Putin has always said that Ukraine was the red line.

Putin is actually helping with NATO expansion by showing everyone what can happen to your country if you're not in NATO. He invaded Georgia and Ukraine (twice) proving that Russia is a real threat to it's neighbors, he also invaded 0 NATO countries proving that being a NATO member can prevent Russian invasion.

mafketis
6 Mar 2022  #3920

Both Ukraine and Georgia got invitations in 2008.

So NATO invited Ukraine in 2008 and Russia decided to wait 14 years and then launch a Blitzkrieg.... In what universe does that make any sense?

Miloslaw
6 Mar 2022  #3921

@Crnogorac3

As expected.
You did not answer my question but instead responded with a load of pathetic flim flam.
Just with with no answers.....and at the end of your post you resort to Nazi antisemitic rubbish.
You truly are a disgusting excuse for a human being.....

So how do you explain the fact that the leader of your imaginary Nazi.state is a Jew?
And so is his PM..... you really are a pathetic pro RuSSian Nazi anti semite!

Russians and Serbs have several things in common.
They are very stupid.
Think far too highly of themselves.
Overestimate their military strength.
And vastly underestimate the power and resolve of their created enemies....
I say created, because if Russia and Serbia changed their ways, they could become friends with and benefit from the west.
But I fear that they are just too stupid.

Russians and Serbs are born losers.......

Novichok
6 Mar 2022  #3922

Putin is actually helping with NATO expansion by showing everyone what can happen to your country if you're not in NATO.

You (editorial) can't have it both ways.

Russia does not resist - NATO gets bigger because "it's the will of the people". See Poland and the Baltic.
Russia resists - NATO will get bigger because Russia resists. See Ukraine.

So NATO invited Ukraine in

I thought the process requires an application, not an invitation. The delay can be due to many reasons - one of them that Russia may be upset.

At least we are discussing what really matters, not "nazis" or "democracy".

johnny reb
6 Mar 2022  #3923

Ukraine about to receive a bunch of jets from Poland. Americans essentially ordered to leave Russia a few minutes ago.

You forgot to mention that their replacement jets are on the way to Poland from the U.S.A.
Now Russia is saying that Ukraine was developing a dirty nuke bomb.

mafketis
6 Mar 2022  #3924

the process requires an application, not an invitation

Had Ukraine formally applied?

Velund
6 Mar 2022  #3925

listening to that Russian hearsay

Yes, and to date it was more reliable source of information than any media - there is no reason to feed any crap for people - they just not say things that not for public (even former sister in arms). ;)

And my sources told me that today's relative silence was (between others) a day of relax to tired troops (no personnel rotation yet). We will have more news tomorrow.

Crnogorac3
6 Mar 2022  #3926

Russia claims Ukraine destroying evidence of US-funded bioweapons program

Russia's Defense Ministry says Kiev ordered scientists to destroy samples of plague, anthrax, and other lethal pathogens


As Russian troops entered Ukraine, the government in Kiev ordered the "emergency destruction" of pathogens including plague and anthrax at US-funded laboratories near the Russian border, the Ministry of Defense in Moscow claimed on Sunday. Earlier rumors that the Russian military was targeting US-run biolabs were written off as conspiracy theories, but the ministry has promised to back up its claims with documents.

"We have received documentation from employees of Ukrainian biolaboratories on the emergency destruction on February 24 of especially dangerous pathogens of plague, anthrax, tularemia, cholera and other deadly diseases," read a statement from the ministry.


rt.com/russia/551374-ukraine-biological-warfare-labs/

Cojestdocholery
6 Mar 2022  #3927

Russia claims Ukraine destroying evidence of US-funded bioweapons program

You mean they cloned Putin and replaced the orginal? Is Putin in Moscow a replicant? Due to US-funded bio-weapon program in Ukrainie?
Did the clon find out about his origin? Hence the war?

Korvinus
6 Mar 2022  #3928

can't have it both ways

And this is the beginning and end of it. The West baited Putin into this by unseriously dangling possible NATO membership for Ukraine and Putin took the bait.

Putin is not as smart as I thought he was.

He's been duped by a Whoopie Goldberg tier scheme.

PolAmKrakow
6 Mar 2022  #3929

Lets be very clear on this. Once the migs reach Ukraine, Russia is going to get demolished in Ukraine. You Russian F's and trolls, will then have to make a decision. Be prepared. Novi, SAD if you can figure that out in your musings. The rest of the Russian trolls, be prepared, the hunt is about to expand beyond Ukraine and you will be found and you will be "dealt with".

mafketis
6 Mar 2022  #3930

unseriously dangling possible NATO membership

NATO was in the mix of reasons but I still say it's not the main one. His goal was/is the destruction of Ukraine and Ukrainian as an identity. That's what matters to him, he models himself on a (pretty stupid) Tsar, Alexander III and so he's trying to recreate some kind of neo-Russian/Soviet empire.


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