Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades

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.....at least the german Nazi-Atrocities are pushed now in the background abit by the russian massacres in Ukraine.....

The Mariupol Atrocities

There has been no water or electricity in Mariupol for days. The city is repeatedly bombed heavily - on Wednesday also a maternity clinic. Eyewitness reports provide dramatic insights into the surrounded coastal metropolis.

spiegel.de/ausland/mariupol-dramatische-lage-in-der-umzingelten-stadt-a-fe72f82a-3315-4e73-8fa5-b27f3cfb942b

Again, it looks like they hid behind the building. That's what you do when you don't want to get hit and not the other way around.

And how am I supposed to know that it's Azov and that it's in Mariupol? Or that those are even Ukrainians?


Some objective source would do, I guess :)


Sorry, but all I can see is regular stuff happening during urban warfare. It walks like a duck, talks like duck, flies like a duck - and I see a duck. But you want to make it into a pig. So, once you have evidence to support your claims about it being deliberate, let me know :)

I would swear this thread is not about me. But what do I know...

Sorry, but this is bullsh1t. This is their country. If it was my country being invaded it wouldn't matter to me whether I'd be defending Kielce, Wrocław (where I have family), Warsaw (where I have friends and it's the capital), Kraków (our Polish pearl), Gdańsk, Poznań, etc. etc. Every city would be precious.

@Paulina

Poland is famously mono ethnic and mono religious. I believe what you say. It does not mean that what I said is bullshit. Ukraine is not Poland. You have a Russian heavy East, dominated by Orthodox Church, and a Ukrainian heavy West, dominated by Uniates and Catholics. These two parts of the country only started living under one tent after the territories were annexed from Poland, Romania, and Hungary. The feeling of "this is my city too" is not as strong.

You tend to make too many assumptions, when you need to ignore some evidence. ;)

spiegel.de/ausland/russland-ukraine-news-am-mittwoch-fitch-stuft-russland-weiter-ab-zahlungsausfall-droht-unmittelbar-a-2c842f49-4395-4000-a445-2b666ccea05e

Because of the Russian war of aggression against Ukraine, the United States has moved Patriot anti-aircraft missiles to Poland. Two Patriot systems, usually based in Germany, have been relocated to the eastern European country bordering Ukraine at the request of the Polish government, a US Defense Department official said on Wednesday. The Pentagon representative spoke of a "purely defensive mission" to protect against possible threats to the United States and its NATO allies.

The Patriot missile system is used to counter aircraft, ballistic missiles and cruise missiles. At the end of February, the Federal Ministry of Defense in Berlin announced the transfer of Patriot anti-aircraft missiles to Slovakia. The Russian attack on Ukraine has raised new fears of possible Russian aggression among the eastern NATO countries....

But they aren't retreating. They're defending those cities or sometimes even retaking them.


That's all I can do when provided with such a very short video. Why is it so short? My guess is that because soon after that they drove away :))

Oh but you make it about you by steering public opinion with your Commie propaganda.

@Paulina

It is exhausting arguing with you.


There you admitted it! Yes, they hid behind the building because they don't want to get hit. Good job Paulina! Why do these smart men think their chances of being hit behind this building are less? Oh - because it is a school, or a hospital! Good, good.

However, when they begin to shoot from that position on to Russian positions the calculus is simple - as Novichok laid out - it is a win-win. Either Russians will seek to avoid the negative PR fallout and will pull back to safer positions, or they will annihilate the position along with other civilians present.

This is probably preferable to meeting the Russians on the outskirts of the city and having a 100% chance of not returning alive. And so this grotesque game of ping pong continues.

Here's the question that no one wants to answer - what airfields are those Polish to Ukranian MIGs going to take off from and land? Because the consensus is that Russia captured all the airports and runways within 24 hours. If they're flown from Poland or Germany that automatically draws NATO into the war. MIG-29s need a proper long flat runway, they're not STOL/VTOL type planes. I'd hate for Poland to be attacked because they're supporting Judenski and his "nationalists" that carry Israeli tavors... rofl I still can't get over that... man I never thought I'd see the day that a pro white militant organization with a woflsangel as it's banner fights for a jew president installed by american zionist neocons... what a world we live in!

@Novichok
Hey retard, if you get one person to betray his country by your propaganda you are a criminal. You know nothing and really are a simple Fing moron complicit in war crimes in my opinion and likely the opinion of any legal authority. Please go hang yourself, at least then you could feed a dog.

@Bobko
Looking at these pictures in photo editing software, they are not of the same buildings. The windows don't match and neither do the facades. Nice try though.

Unreal that this level of scum is on this board.

Bad adventure for Matteo Salvini at the Ukrainian-Polish border:

the mayor of Przemys refused to go with him and showed the shirt worn by the leader of the League in the European Parliament a few years ago: "No respect for you"

twitter.com/marcobreso/status/1501201298762485761

They are giving him some problems in trying to dress up a few particular details from his biography.

:)

There you admitted it! So they don't want the building to be hit, so they could show it on TV! They simply want to stay alive! Good job, Bobko! lol 👏


Good :)

Excuse me, what the **** are you talking about? I posted photos of three different places - yes!

@Dirk diggler
There are still some smaller airports to fly from. Sorry to burst your bubble.

@johnny reb
The POS would never give his real name and address. He is just another tough talking biatch who would be a quivering crying baby if ever confronted. Just like Velund, Crnogorac3 and the rest. Commie POS that should be hung.

Please come to Krakow and enjoy my hospitality some day commies, or I will be not far from Chicago in 2 weeks and we can go get an Italian beef before your last cigarette ;-)

It's exhausting, isn't it?


If...in my opinion...likely...Any more hedge words? Not sure?


That's exactly what it is. BTW, according to some moron here, expect a visit at 5 am.

@Novichok
No. How about, you just tell us all who you are and then let fate take its course. No hedging at all. Lets see if you get a visit from people who believe you are a Russian agent who so lovingly remembers his Russian saviors. Who so ardently promotes the Russian and anti democratic way of life who lives only because of those democratic values and the lives given up for them.

Lets see if your activity is seen legally as freedom of speech or treason. If as you say, you are an old man, you have nothing to lose but a little time before you die anyway.

I have a better idea. You should transition from words to action, and bring the fight to the enemy. Ukraine is in desperate need of volunteers, and I can already tell from your insightful military commentary that you are just the kind of asset they are seeking.

My prediction - you will become like your forefathers - that is - filtered through the camps of Magadan and Norilsk, assisting Russia in unlocking its boundless natural riches.

P.S. It seems that everyone except for you knows Novichok's name and where he lives.

@Bobko
Yes. Allegedly his name is Rich in Chicago. He can DM me all the info and lets see what happens. As for you. You can do the same and I will gladly come visit for a cup of coffee. Unlike all you commie F's, I have the money and time to travel extensively. If you are in Russia, enjoy the starvation, you have earned a long slow and painful death and I will watch and laugh as it unfolds. As for volunteering, I will wait, prepared for any Russian in a uniform I see walking down my street. Nothing more than the dozens of deer and bear I have killed. Just more meat that unfortunately can not be used by the taxidemist.

Just like Trump, you pathetic Polish moron...
OK, one more time... I like Russia for at least two reasons: They liberated Poland and my grandkids like Masha and the Bear.
Now, get lost, you idiot. Better yet, place flowers at the nearest monument to the dead Soviets.


This forum should never allow kids or imbeciles...You are an embarrassment...

Sweden's PM has ruled out applying to join Nato, saying that membership would destabilise northern Europe

twitter.com/FinancialTimes/status/1501294449338593287

A smart woman, she won't add fuel to the fire when it's not the appropriate time.

It is wise, just in case not to miss another denazification and demilitarization, because it is now in the geopolitical trend.

;)

@Novichok
It is you who are an embarrassment. To your family and the country that protects you. You deserve none of the freedoms we real Americans afford to you. Trump was not a Russian agent, just a stupid American manipulated by the Russians who became their puppet. Puppets are just stupid. You have made a conscious thought. But of course I will wait for your info in my DM because pussies like you can not handle real confrontation. If ever I am in the area of a Russian monument, I will pi$$ on it.

You trolls are all the same. Twist and turn information. Yet never step up to a real conflict because in the end you are simply cowards. Like Putin. Like Stalin, like Lenin all cowards who stand behind other people mentally manipulated because they lack intelligence. Now though, Russia is facing the end, and when it ends, so do you.

Actually it's Putin who makes people think about joining NATO...it just pays off....Ukraine counts as warning example what could happen to you if not!

Great thread on Russia's shameful history of colalborating with nazis and accusing random enemies of being nazis...

twitter.com/kamilkazani/status/1497306746330697738

Another? Let's first see how successful the first one is before anybody starts thinking about another. Seriously, the level of ineptitude of Russian armed forces is puzzling. OK, low morale, lack of funds, corruption, alcoholism etc. etc. but this is an army of an alleged world superpower. Surely they must have better units than the peasants we are observing in Ukraine at the moment. What's going on? Why is Putin not using them? Saving them for something bigger? What? MInd boggles.

Now you reached the point where I feel sorry for you. I hope you will get better. Really. Something has changed in your life.


Let me help you with that "superpower". The US is a superpower and the world's dumbest cop. That is why it must have 13 aircraft carrier groups to project that super power 10,000 miles away.

Russia is a "superpower" in a defensive way and able to deter any other country from attacking it. As I wrote before, today, a war with Germany would last 30 minutes. That is why Russia will never attack to conquer Western Europe, aside from that it has no reason to.

I hope this helps.

For Germany? Or for Russia? 🤔

Somebody should tell them, because apparently they decided in recent days to go on an offensive. Sort of. I guess.

Russia would win in 30 minutes. And that is why, to my great relief, there will not be any war between Germany and Russia. What I wouldn't mind is meeting you and Velund for dinner. I didn't say beer because of those damn diapers...


That left me wondering...Such a loss of everything...