Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades

more Brit gutter scum

youtu.be/iziFgZ8fq6U

Horrific.

Looking at that lot, they are obviously going hoping for homosexual rape encounters which they will record on their phones for profit.

Speaking of Brits...From dailymail.com:

Kate fights back tears over Ukraine: Duchess looks visibly moved on visit to Ukrainian Cultural Centre and shows her support with a blue jumper and homemade cakes - as Prince William says: 'We're all behind you'

Hey, Kate and Billy, did you have to fight back tears when your boys were spreading "democracy" in Iraq and Afghanistan? Did they at least ask "may we please"? You know, those British royal manners...

BTW, that was smart. "Behind" is safer than in front. For the record, I support things with a hamburger and a beer.


That would be good, too.

I wonder if Germany will provide them permanent refugee status now. And citizenship later.

If in exchange for Muslims, that would be OK. If in addition - not OK.

twitter.com/IMatviyishyn/status/1501607741944745989
What a motherf*ckers.

There's no bubble to burst. And a MIG29 requires a full size 750m runway which smaller airports don't have. That's nearly a kilometer in runway they need, small airports have runways half that size or smaller. They might take off from a smaller runway but landing is a different story.

Either way, Ukraine and Russia are getting their **** recked. Their economy and currency are even more dog **** than they were before to the point where there's African countries with more stability, their people are totally demoralized, and there is no hope that things will improve. They're down to two ****** options - either live under the Putin kleptocracy/oligarchy system or a Judensky kleptocracy/oligarchy system. Either way, the average person is going to be living in grinding poverty with no opportunity for a better life unless they manage to get plugged into the system. Otherwise, fuhgettaboutit...

I just wish people weren't so easily brainwashed in this situation - especially my fellow Poles. We have no business helping out the Ukraine and if the roles were reserved I highly doubt the Ukrainians would help us considering they've been massacring us for centuries. Their "nationalist" groups like Right Sector, Azov, National Corps, Svoboda, and the others sponsored by US and Israeli Zionists all hate Poles and those organizations carry a lot of clout there.

Probably not. They're too white, not brown enough. Same situation as Sweden. They're not letting in the Ukranians... not turd world enough for their multi kulti society

Not a problem if they want to use them in the 9/11 or Jap style.

1) The average American is even dumber
2) As a result, she's using words that a wide audience can understand

I bet if I asked 100 random people on the street to locate Ukraine on a globe within 4 seconds most would fail. In the more "vibrant" neighborhoods it'd probably be a 99/100 failure...

I'd probably receive answers like "Maaaan i dun give no **** 'bout sum you-crane-ans, now gibs me yo wallet cracka!"

If I asked 100 random college grads anywhere in Western Europe to locate Illinois on the globe within 4 seconds, all would fail.

This is more that I can take...I mean "warning" the victims about what the swamp is doing to them...From dailymail.com:

UK is facing bigger economic shock than 1973 oil crisis as energy prices soar and ban on Russian imports is set to pile on more pressure, MPs warn

No sh*it! You did it to them and now you are "warning" them?

We "warn" about what may happen, like a tornado, not about what has already been done and the sure consequences of your own stupid actions.

Next time I will be going 100, I will text myself a warning that I may get pulled over and get a ticket.

Undersecretary of State, Victoria Nuland, said that Ukraine has "biological research facilities", and that the US is working with Ukraine on how to prevent capturing the research results by Russians...

prawy.pl/118743-szok-ukraina-posiada-biologiczne-placowki-badawcze-na-swoim-terenie-podsekretarz-stanu-przyznaje-ze-usa-obawia-sie-przejecia-ich-przez-rosjan/

... is it possible that Ukraine and the US have been breaking the ban of biological weapons convention???

...and apparently the Americans are AGAINST sending MIGs to Ukraine. :) They say it's too risky, might cause escalation of the conflict and wouldn't increase Ukrainian operating capabilities too much anyway.

wydarzenia.interia.pl/raporty/raport-ukraina-rosja/aktualnosci/news-pentagon-nie-chce-przekazania-mysliwcow-ukrainie-uwazamy-to-,nId,5882266

Looks like the Pentagon suddenly agrees with me - maybe they have been reading PF. ;)

You are wrong, remember the battle of britain? You stated Ukr has no airfields they have plenty. remember they still control 80 percent of the country. Pentagon are just being pus*ies.

Americans are blaming the Polish for not informing them of their plan to send Migs to Ukraine, yet it was high level NATO officials that suggested it. Once again we look divided and weak. The argument is that sending Migs to Ukraine would somehow escalate the situation and cause Russia to attack the west?? Bit of a joke. The situation is already escalated. What is the difference between sending Migs and the top level western equipment the Ukris are getting? I think some politicians are getting pedantic about what is an *offensive and what is a *defensive weapon. They do not have to fly from NATO airfields just ship them by ground from Poland or Moldovia as polamkrakow stated.

Yes the USA National Guard fighter stock will be depleted for a little while, with american fighter jets for poland to replace the Mig-29s. Big deal.

Karmala in Poland atm, is she up to it? If USA keeps this up the central european states will just ignore USA/NATO and act alone.

Wasin't the maternity hospital in mariupol bombed by ruski fighter jets? the west needs to give the Ukris the capability to fight them in the air.

No, I didn't.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Anyway...@HealthyYoungMuslimMenAllOverTheWorld: I hope you have been watching the conflict closely. LOOK - here's how genuine war refugees look like:









...with every wave we see exactly the same thing: it's mostly women, children and the elderly. Yes, I know it's difficult for you to understand, so I will spell it for you: w-o-m-e-n-comma-c-h-i-l-d-r-e-n-a-n-d-t-h-e-e-l-d-e-r-l-y. Men stay to fight for their country. Yes, I know it's difficult for you to understand, so I will spell it: m-e-n-s-t-a-y-t-o-f-i-g-h-t-f-o-r-t-h-e-i-r-c-o-u-n-t-r-y. Not only do they stay to fight for their country but they even come back from abroad to fight! Yes, I know it's difficult for you to understand, so I will spell it for you: m-e-n-c-o-m-e-b-a-c-k-f-r-o-m-a-b-r-o-a-d-t-o-f-i-g-h-t.

And guess what - the genuine refugees receive all the help we can give them. There is no border guards to stop them, no choppers, no tear gas, no water cannons. Go figure :)

@Dirk diggler
I did not say anything about runway size. I said smaller airports. Not international airports. Just smaller in size. Runways can be built or extended on frozen ground without too much trouble.

Now though a top General in Europe says anti aircraft and anti tank weapons are most effective for Ukraine, and that migs or other aircraft would not provide much or any benefit since it is the ground forces that they need to defeat. We all need to remember too that Ukraine is not without aircraft, they simply do not have a whole lot but did not have a lot to start with.

Funny how active all the trolls get at night. All these people living in the USA and enjoying the freedoms that come with it. Please post your passport and bc again, and the rest of you can also post some identifying documents. Thanks.

As for visa's, for Russians, they should not be allowed. They should get nothing from the EU of USA. Happy to say the Russian's and Belarus scum I fired are back behind their borders enjoying their $hi**y little lives in their $hi**y countries. The Putin sandwich is on sale today in St. Petersburg, a real delicacy made up of two pieces of black bread ketchup, mustard and wrapped in a piece of news paper from 1941. The Russian delicacy is dedicated to reminding people of St. Petersburg that the Siege of Leningrad is now officially recognized as the "good old days". Happy gulag comrades!

And what has your emotive post to do with Poland/Slovakia/Czech/Romania sending Mig-29s to Ukraine exactly? Don't u think they need them and they will be of great service? If a Polish supplied Mig-29 shoots down a ruski su-25 about to bomb a civ target then thats one more plus in my book.

Nothing - it wasn't a reply to you (apart from the "No, I didn't").


No, I don't. And the Pentagon agrees with me.

If you are so eager to fight - go ahead. Ukraine is close, get in your car and drive. They are accepting foreign volunteers at the moment. Good luck.

What we? Stop speaking on behalf of Poles. You are not one. You don`t even live in Poland.

Of course we do have essential business in helping Ukraine. Just like so many times in the past, we are defending Europe against barabarians from the East. Simple.


Just like Polish nationalists hate them. Does it mean whole societies/nations are such? Fortunately, no. Besides, now we have a chance to put an end to this hatred which has destroyed our relations for so long. Simple. New friendship is being born.

@pawian
We have a way and an opportunity to end Putin, and the Russian oppression that has taken place since 1917. This is really the absolute best opportunity to finally get rid of the remaining old Soviet mentality and government systems. The west should have never gotten in so deep with Russia, never. A snake only sheds its skin to become a bigger snake. This country needs to be frozen, and starved out. The people have to rise up and say its over. The only way that happens is by making their lives so difficult that they have no other choice but to stand up for themselves. An American soldier did not kill Gaddafi, his own people found him and killed him in the street, and thats what needs to happen in Russia.

This is a good point. If this will happen, this could be one of the silver linings of this conflict. When someone takes care of your wife and kids, it becomes fairly difficult to hate them after.

On the other hand, I cannot escape the feeling that this is an instance of "the enemy of my enemy is my friend". When the context changes, what will Ukraine remember, and to what will it attach more importance - the fact that Poland helped their children, or the fact that Poland did not come to help militarily? Of course this would not be fair towards Poland, since it is but one of many within an alliance, but I can see how such an opinion can form in Ukraine. For every single instance of perceived ingratitude by the Ukrainians, Poles collectively will become incensed with anger.

What will win - light or darkness? History is not encouraging in this regard.

@PolAmCow

Hey genius, have you been following the development progress of Post-Gaddafi Libya? Careful what you wish for. There was another famous Pole who thought he found the perfect opportunity to finish Russia, I think his name was Pilsudski. I would argue he had more reason to think so, because Russia had just lost a World War, and became immediately involved in an even bloodier civil war that eventually embroiled more than a dozen "interventionist" countries of the West.

Pilsudski +1, PolAmCow 0

@Crnogorac3

I wonder what trollish map you will show us today. With half Ukraine already conquered?? hahahahaha


You are lying. Poland is playing the main role in supplying Ukrainians with Western weaponry. And with our own, too. Did you hear reports about Ukrainians praising Polish anti-aircraft launchers as more effective than American Stingers? :):)


No, you can`t. :)) Again, stop lying. Your RuSS-Asian lies don`t work anymore and newly born Polish Ukrainian friendship is a fact.

Pawian get out from inside my head!!!

@Bobko
Russia, has some pretty capable people to take over the leadership roles. Lybia did not. Honestly, I really dont care what happens in Lybia, they can keep killing each other and it wont bother me. The middle east is a dry toilet and only good for oil. Having actually been there I can form an opinion. Putin, and all those like him simply need to be killed. Don't kill them, ok, we will starve you out until he is dead, and we see a real humane leader at the helm. Its really quite simple. You and your people will pay the price of your leader. Thats life. Ask the Germans how they liked it until about 1991. 45 years of distrust and only now because of Russia have they put aside the guilt of WW2 to make a stand that Putin will not be allowed to repeat WW2 as a newer more wealthy Hitler.

Thats really all he is. All of his propaganda to make himself look tough, and hard. Shirtless on a horse, the comedy of his judo and hockey. Nothing more than all the staged photographs Hitler made of himself to get the people to believe he was one of them. Theater only. When Hitler was not one of them, he lived the high life and had his Eagles nest among other places. Just like Putin and his castle on the Black sea. Hitler stole the gold and hid it, some still yet to be found, like Putin has raped Russia financially. They really are one in the same. And like Hitler, Putin will die. The only question is, who will be the hero to kill him and set Russians free for the first time since 1917?

Israeli CIA 'Nazis' using residents/civilians as human shields in Mariupol.
Azov Battalion Embedded in Residential Area of Mariupol.

youtu.be/2HoLcHP_VFc

Mhmm, yes - tell me more. Putin is new Hitler.

Putin, who through some misguided sense of brotherhood towards Ukrainians, did not bomb a single Ukrainian barracks on day 1, even though he could have killed thousands of Ukrainian soldiers in their sleep - is the new Hitler.

Did you know that Hitler cost the lives of probably 16,315,000 non-combatant people? He wiped out 5,291,000 Jews, 258,000 Gypsies, 10,547,000 Slavs, and 220,000 homosexuals. He also "euthanized" 173,500 handicapped Germans. Then in repression, terrorism, reprisals, and other cold-blooded killings done to impose and maintain his rule throughout Europe, he murdered more millions including French, Dutch, Serbs, Slovenes, Czechs, and others. In total, he likely annihilated 21,946,000 human beings.

I'm sorry for repeating simple facts that even an 8th grader knows, but I need to be sure that we are working on same factual ground before we can proceed.

@Bobko
Completely aware of what Hitler did. I live in Poland. Putin will, if not stopped, kill many people. Not as brutally maybe, but he has a sense of his historical image. This is the only difference. He couldn't have killed thousands because he was not within range, and the fact that he does not have enough smart weapons to wage war now shows he would have likely only killed more civilians. He is nothing more than a thug.

Want to talk about how many millions have been killed by Russia in their own country based on this tradition of Russian leadership? Every Russian leader with the exception of Gorby and Yeltsin, has been nothing more than a killer. Putin ascended to power because Yeltsin was an idiot drunk, and he was in the right place at the right time. He has done nothing for Russia. Now he sends all these kids to Ukraine to die, and they are getting their a$$es kicked. This is not a tactician, this is nothing but a gang leader sending in the low level thugs to fight because he is not man enough to do it. Now, he is losing, not only on the ground in Ukraine but at home and around the world. The carefully crafted image is falling apart before his eyes. Its only a matter of time now.

Your support of him while living in the US should have you and your family deported. You should be stripped of everything and sent back to the hole you came from.

Talk about war crimes! What has Poland done to deserve this?!!?

Anyways, one cannot help but notice that things have been going rapidly downhill in the last couple of years.

It all started with a Chinese guy eating a bat, and now gypsies have their own panzer forces...

24tv.ua/ru/pod-kahovkoj-ukrainskie-cygane-ukrali-u-rossijan-tank-mestnye_n1881615

@PolAmCow

Look - I copy-pasted your paragraph and substituted "Bush" for "Putin". I'm not drawing some clever analogy here, but showing how tiring your drivel is:

Every American leader with the exception of Jimmy Carter and Calvin Coolidge, has been nothing more than a killer. Bush ascended to power because Clinton was an idiot drunk, and he was in the right place at the right time. He has done nothing for America. Now he sends all these kids to Afghanistan to die, and they are getting their a$$es kicked. This is not a tactician, this is nothing but a gang leader sending in the low level thugs to fight because he is not man enough to do it. Now, he is losing, not only on the ground in Afghanistan but at home and around the world. The carefully crafted image is falling apart before his eyes. Its only a matter of time now.

Where be the Nazis again?

Time to denazify Kazan?

twitter.com/the_ins_ru/status/1501662440660115457

And store purchase limits in one of the richest areas of Russia

twitter.com/eskelinen_antti/status/1499824477156384772

How much longer before ration cards?

Heck of a job Putty...

I have never seen anybody so happy at the prospect of a country starving. Thankfully this is all just a fantasy in your head. Not everyone needs an iPhone or French Camembert to survive. Russia can feed three times it's population. Fancy pants Moscow and St Petersburg people will have to wait for the stinky cheese and prosciutto to come back.

Meanwhile, people in your country of birth and in your adopted homeland are about to start spending a considerable proportion of their income just to fuel their cars and to heat themselves in the night.

I don't like to gloat at this kind of economic dislocations, since it hits the vulnerable the hardest - but your attitude, Mafketis, is disgusting and mean.