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Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades



Crow
12 Mar 2022  #4861

old and not "stealth" at all soviet made reconnaissance drone,

Not stealth? Then how NATO didn`t sow it coming?

So if nuke fell NATO wouldn`t even notice that nuclear war started (and ended, obviously). Is NATO that incompetent?

Korvinus
12 Mar 2022  #4862

"NATO this, but NATO did that"... look, Putin shills. Russia no a fuc*king USA. It's not global hegemon, no one looks up to you, no one asks you to police their backyard. Compare yourself to your peers. If it weren't for your oversized army and nukes, you'd be as relevant as Italy or Brazil, maybe Germany or Pakistan under fair weather. And those countries don't start a rumble by themselves, because "our sphere of influence, our feeling insecure"

Russian geopolitical thought is still stuck in early XX century. One, military might is much less relevant that it was even thirty years ago, and territorial squabbles are in large part pointless from the point of view of modern state power. Two, Russia seriosuly overestimates its soft power. "How will the global sport fare without Russia?" lamented head of Russian Olympic Committee. "But what is world's literature without Pushkin and Tolstoy?" cried Russian literates. "But Putin is the shining bastion of conserativism!" cry midless idiots, to whom conservative thought consists of bashing homos and trannies.

Well, fu*ck no. You're second-world country Russia, you may impress some Syrian tribals or African warlords, but rest of the world can get on without you just fine. Your don't produce anything worth of note, your economy is reservoir of natural resources - a slightly larger Saudia Arabia, that's what you are from economic point of view. Your culture didn't produce anything worth of note since Master and Margarita. Your involvement with sports is synonymous with doping, abuse and corruption. Even your Slavic 'brothers' have always wanted to get far away from you as fast as possible. And this war showcases that even your precious military is nothing more than the proverbial bardak, rotten by systemic corruption and general ineptness. And you dare to compare yourself to USA? I hope when this war is over, you at least realize that those Imperial notions you hold are nothing but silly delusions. And then you'll cry. Because you had thirty years to realign yourself, but instead, you'll end up as China's footstool, drained from your precious resources like no European or American corporation would drain you. But at least you showed those Americans, right! Right!? Oh right, Americans are sitting far away and laughing while you break your teeth on Ukraine, which you thought was just some inconsequental minor state. So much for great power.

Crow
12 Mar 2022  #4863

Russia no a fuc*king USA.

No. That`s what I said. USA doing that to itself. Some twisted self-coitus.

Paulina
12 Mar 2022  #4864

Russia cannot be a stable, friendly and relatively wealthy country

Knowing pro-Putin Russians, my guess is that Velund will simply blame everything (or almost everything) on the West :) Just wait for it (or better not, because it's just a waste of time).

War can also be seen from space - Ukraine has become a black spot with no electricity and heating in many households and temperatures reaching -15°C:

o2.pl/informacje/porazajacy-widok-ukraina-czarna-plama-na-tle-europy-6746386447288928a

Crnogorac3
12 Mar 2022  #4865

The Russians began to release recordings of their actions. For now, only from the first days of the action of the Specnaz Special Forces and parachute units of the Airborne Forces at the takeover of Ukrainian airports.

youtu.be/SBcKRGl4jjM

Hostomel airdrop
twitter.com/200_zoka/status/1502599238227795971

youtu.be/R3i1wrsn5XU
Donetsk People's Republic fighters are cleaning up the settlement Volnovakha

Southeastern Front

youtu.be/TeAei6L9Yi8

Bombardment of Nikolaev is underway

cms neuf
12 Mar 2022  #4866

Seems a long time ago and those Spetznatz basically achieved nothing. Just proved how inept their colleagues are.

They will go hime thinking they are heroes and then decide to take their kids out to McDonalds and a movie for a treat. Will be great to see their faces when they find out what they have been fighting for - a scared opd man in a bunker whose only aim is to hold on to his stolen cash.

mafketis
12 Mar 2022  #4867

@Crnogorac3

Does this idiot ever respond to anything or is he just spamming his Russo-nazi nonsense non-stop? If the latter, why is he allowed to do that? I have no problem allowing those with ideas I loathe to remain here if they actually engage in discussion but the Jugo-nazi doesn't seem to do that....

Can we get a banning, maybe?

Crow
12 Mar 2022  #4868

to western Europeans

My dear friends from western Europe. You who live in Poland, Visegrad countries and Serbia, consider yourself as extremely lucky. Venerate Christ and Svetovid and thank them. And forget western European countries. They are about to share destine of third world countries.

Steel Plants Across Europe Cut Production as Power Prices Soar

> bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-03-09/spanish-steel-production-curbed-as-power-costs-soar-to-a-record

amiga500
12 Mar 2022  #4869

Some interesting reporting courtesy of Nexta

1 Germany plans to become independent of Russian coal by autumn and almost independent of Russian oil by the end of the year.

2 Azerbaijan has said it has enough gas reserves for supplies to Europe and to neighboring countries.

This is massive news, if true.

Paulina
12 Mar 2022  #4870

parachute units of the Airborne Forces at the takeover of Ukrainian airports.

What is that silvery stuff which soldiers in this video are wearing on their helmets and around their arms - is this duct tape? (let us see if he answers this one lol)

PolAmKrakow
12 Mar 2022  #4871

@Korvinus
Exactly the points I have been making. Well said.

pawian
12 Mar 2022  #4872

So you are against the freedom of another nation to elect its own government and leaders that suit it best

No, RuSS-Asaian savages are. That is why they invaded Ukraine.

duct tape

Yes, RuSS-Asian savage army that uses duct tape, cardboard and wooden planks to survive in the battle. :):)
Fekk, RuSSia wants to be an Empire but can`t feed its soldiers properly. It is unimaginable what those savages dream about.

If they will resist long enough, the sanctions will take a wonderful effect - RuSSia on the same level as Venezuela. And this will be the final blow to their sick dreams about an Empiire.

Crow
12 Mar 2022  #4873

almost independent of Russian oil by the end of the year.

Azerbaijan has said

You forgot one thing. We now live in Multi-Polar world.

So, all powers affect international trade. Meaning, Russia, too. And how would western Europe convince Russia to allow Azerbaijan (any country) to sell to western Europe? Exactly how?

And that is Russia. China? What about China? How would western Europe force China to respect western European interests?

Man, western Europe can`t make deal even with USA.

Good-Bye western Europe, sad stupendous spent looters.

Vlad1234
12 Mar 2022  #4874

EU issued permit to Ukrainian refugees to stay just for 3 years. And where they suppose to return after 3 years? To the total ruins?!!

Crow
12 Mar 2022  #4875

Mark my word. Most of them will find peace and life in Serbia in next 3-10 years when dust settle down. At least half of them anyway have ancestry from Serbian refugees from medieval Serbia when Ottomans invaded us. Its our people in most direct sense of the word.

Free Serbia established on free Serbian lands, liberated from regional and global nazis would give shelter to them.

PolAmKrakow
12 Mar 2022  #4876

@Vlad1234
It is going to take years to rebuild Ukraine after the war. People will return but it will be the construction people and trades people that return first.

mafketis
12 Mar 2022  #4877

suppose to return after 3 years? To the total ruins?!!

This is with probable renewal.... I wonder if Russia will be charged to rebuild.... An example needs to be made of that lawless outlaw feudal kingdom (can't even call it a country anymore).

Crow
12 Mar 2022  #4878

We should better ask where would western Europeans when western Europe turn to desolate poor ruin. Some in Britain (if Britain does not mistake like EU) and Ireland, some to USA, some to Visegrad countries and Serbia. Some in Russia.

Think about this for this is what coming.

I predicting movement of 300 million people minimum.

pawian
12 Mar 2022  #4879

EU issued permit to Ukrainian refugees to stay just for 3 years

They will do as Poland just did today - three years can be prolonged ad nauseam. :):0

Besides, don`t be silly - RuSS-ASSian savages will have withdrawn from Ukraine by the end of this year and the rebuilding of destroyed cities and infrastructure will start. Using confiscated RuSS assets, of course. hahahaha

It is going to take years to rebuild Ukraine after the war.

No, only one year coz Europe will declare a new Marshall Plan for Ukraine, using RuSS assets. Each reconstruction project will have to receive the EU stamp.

To the total ruins?!!

Yes, but no worry, fekking RuSS-ASSian beasts will pay for everything they have ruined.

PolAmKrakow
12 Mar 2022  #4880

@pawian
Wishful thinking on the Marshall plan idea. Seized Russian assets outside of Russia will not be enough to pay for rebuilding. Now, if they seize cash and everything from Oligarchs, which they should IMO, then we may have something. Putin though still needs to be taken out. He wont pay war reparations, or anything else.

It will take years to rebuild apartment buildings. Then you have insurance claims and a whole lot more to get through. If there is a settlement and because of it, how to effected people get their property back? This is going to take a good while to resolve even after the fighting stops.

Paulina
12 Mar 2022  #4881

No, RuSS-Asaian savages are. That is why they invaded Ukraine.

Exactly.

Btw, today is a symbolic day - 23 years ago Poland joined NATO... You can imagine how happy I am now that it did happen... As a Pole I'm really grateful to everyone who made it possible - Polish politicians, soldiers, intelligence officers... and Americans :)

🇵🇱🌷

johnny reb
12 Mar 2022  #4882

Our pleasure Paulina as we love Poland and all the nice people in it.
And Poland was one of the poorest countries to join NATO yet has always paid their full share into NATO.
Hopefully when we get attacked by China, Poland will be there to help the U.S.A. out in return.

Crow
12 Mar 2022  #4883

When China merge with Taiwan, USA should refrain itself from meddling so Poland won`t need to send humanitarian aid to States.

johnny reb
12 Mar 2022  #4884

USA should refrain itself from meddling

That wouldn't be very American, Crow.
Just like it is just a matter of time before the USA (NATO) meddles into the Ukrainian war getting NATO troops and civilians killed.
When are you going to sign up and join the fight against Russia's aggression and war crimes, Crow ?

mafketis
12 Mar 2022  #4885

I'm starting to think that this is the most likely purpose of Putin's aggression.

(short story: he doesn't want to take over Ukraine, he wants to turn it into a failed state to intimidate Russians who might have dangerous (to him) ideas about freedom and democracy).

twitter.com/kamilkazani/status/1492960693737463813

johnny reb
12 Mar 2022  #4886

The world's civilization is at risk.
Make no mistake, Putin and Xi are putting the world at risk of complete destruction.
(Prophesy being fulfilled)
Around 1,300 Ukrainian troops have been killed since the start of the Russian invasion of Ukraine, Zelensky said today.
The Ukrainian president, speaking at a news briefing, said that negotiating teams from his country and Russia had started discussing concrete topics rather than exchanging ultimatums.

Putin's immediate impeachment and arrest for war crimes should be at the head of the list of topics.
Mr Zelensky also revealed that between 500-600 Russian soldiers had surrendered to Ukrainian forces yesterday.

Crow
12 Mar 2022  #4887

When are you going to sign up and join the fight against Russia's aggression and war crimes, Crow ?

I won`t move a finger to support NATO world policeman. They attacked Serbs on behalf of Saudis, Vatican, Turks and Germans and also supported spreading of nazism and nazi-silam in what is now Croatia and Bosnia-Herzegovina..

So I see logic in Russia`s purification of Ukraine from bandera nazism.

amiga500
12 Mar 2022  #4888

Seized Russian assets outside of Russia will not be enough to pay for rebuilding.

The 400 or so Billion USD of foreign currency reserves of the Russian Central Bank which is currently frozen in place is not to be sneezed at, and if putin remains in power, that can be potentially utilised.

mafketis
12 Mar 2022  #4889

I won`t move a finger to support NATO world policeman

What will you move to support the Slav-killing madman Putin?

Paulina
12 Mar 2022  #4890

Just like it is just a matter of time before the USA (NATO) meddles into the Ukrainian war getting NATO troops and civilians killed.

NATO and Biden made it clear that it isn't going to happen. And if Putin is smart, he won't do anything too extreme in Ukraine that would provoke NATO to do get involved.

@Maf, I've been thinking exactly this too:

What if the real goal is to keep Ukraine a failed state as an example to the Russians?

It's not really about NATO, Russians in Donbas and Luhansk... It's about Putin's power in Russia... I think it's also a warning to Belarusians in case they wanted to get rid of Lukashenko...: "Look what I do to those who defy me... Russia can do to you whatever it wants and noone will help you."


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