Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades

Lindsey Graham & John McCain in Ukraine: Preparing for a proxy war with Russia (2016)

youtu.be/Bvt3asiSc8A

Joe Biden started the war in Ukraine. That's a fact. Volodymyr Zelensky, George Soros' puppet, did not start this war. Globalist tyrant, dictator and despot Joe Biden has started this war, said Pearson Sharp of One America News.

rumble.com/vx4dmm-did-biden-instigate-the-russian-war-in-ukraine.html

@mafketis, we must be onto something, because Crnogorac3 is spamming again :D It seemed to be a typical Putinazi tactic on the Russian internet when I was still discussing with pro-Putin Russians.

All those dead heroes and Z minus P is still big fat zero. On the other hand, without heroes there would be no poems, movies, and monuments. All that talent going to waste...

The other idea I've come across that has some face validity is.... that a secondary goal is to reshape the power structure of the Kremlin...

That is, he'd been planning the purge being carried out now (first of... how many?) for a while and the war is/was an excuse for that....

Did you listen close ?
biden words were, "But let me be clear our forces are not engaged and will not engage in the conflict with Russian forces in Ukraine," said Biden.

"IN Ukraine" are the keys words.
We in our life times have never been closer to WW3.
Putin starts getting driven back home and you can bet all stops will come out including terrorizing and killing by using chemical warfare.
That is when NATO steps in
And if that happens......Warsaw is the last place on earth I would want to be.

Ukraine's main problem is that they are close enough to Poles to get infected with the Warsaw Uprising virus. It is very contagious and actually more deadly than covid. Czechs are more immune and the records prove it. Typical symptom: a strong desire to be a hero even if the payback is zero.

Quoting from Galeev:


Czechoslovakia didn't resist... and no longer exists....

...the United States of America which you happily escaped to from Poland (a country ruled by a totalitarian regime at that time).

Heroes don't only fight for themselves, but also for the future of their country and their people. You're benefiting from that fight which happened long time ago.


I don't think it's about a purge, to be honest (of course I have no way of knowing that)... I do think that he planned "regaining Russian territories" for a long time probably... After all Russian media were turning Russians in Ukraine against the Ukrainian state and Ukrainians for some time before the annexation of Crimea... By that land grab he wanted to "mend the wrongs" after the fall of the Soviet Union, as he saw it (and maybe some or many Russians).

I think what prompted the invasion on Ukraine were probably two factors:

- the general situation due to pandemic (that was the immediate direct "trigger") - Putin probably thought that it's good timing to do this now because of the US and the EU and Ukraine being weakened by the pandemic and the resulting inflation, the societies being tired and scared... He probably thought that noone will care or do much about Ukraine in such circumctances.

- mass protests against Lukaszenko in Belarus scared him that similar thing could happen to him in Russia + protests of young people in Russia after Navalny arrested and sent to a labour colony.

And, of course, war is always a good excuse to tightening the grip on the freedom of speech and on the society. Rain TV, Echo of Moscow and Novaya Gazyeta all closed down (I don't recall such thing to happen ever before). There's no independent media in Russia anymore. And the curtain falls. The End.

It would be good to interview those who didn't die and find out if they regret it.

More Rinse & Repeat by the traitor.


Spot on, short and to the point.
Thank you Paulina.

Then there is the chicken sht coward milk soppers virus that migrated to suck off and enjoy someone else's sacrifices without giving anything back like some of the Commie loudmouth trolls here.

Ukraine war and the Warsaw Uprising will go down in history as some of the most patriotic warriors in history to fight against great odds for what is theirs rather than run away and suck hind tit and hide behind someone else's sacrifices.

Hats off to Ukraine when they finally win this war at all costs.

Don't expect parasites to appreciate their hosts....

And I'm skeptical of the second narrative too. But he's certainly carrying out a purge (again... first of... how many?)


They probably thought the reaction would be more or less after Crimea - brief indignation, weak sanctions and Germany making excuses for him.

I really don't think he expected the economic neutron bomb dropped on his economy (he probably doesn't care much but he certainly didn't expect it).

The question is did he really know how awful and pathetic and ineffective the Russian Army is? He must have known... the way he set up the country guarantees that the military is the bottom of the heap.

OK. What is the limit? No limit? How many are willing to die for Z-P=0?

That's the crux of the matter, isn't it? There is no symmetry between America and Russia in world affairs. I think there are two main reasons:

1. American way of life is attractive to people from all over the world who emigrate to America in droves (including some Russians on this board), and it is only the strict US immigration rules that are stopping millions upon millions of people from going there. We definitely don't observe the same magnetic power of Russian way of life (whatever that might mean). Given a free choice, 99 out of 100 people in the world would choose America as a country to live in rather than Russia (and it's not only for economic reasons).

2. Various countries enter alliances with the US of their own accord and the number of countries who would like to be a part of NATO, for example, is growing, whilst former Russian/Soviet "allies" would like nothing better than having nothing to do with Russia ever again. What is this magical repellent power of Russia? I wonder if they ever consider this question.

I am really curious to read Velund's answer about his country's incomprehensible behaviour given all the circumstances. Maybe there is something that we are all overlooking???

Meanwhile in Ukraine - Russian tank crushes a civilian car with a family in it...

wydarzenia.interia.pl/raporty/raport-ukraina-rosja/aktualnosci/news-rosyjski-czolg-zmiazdzyl-cywilny-samochod-rodzice-i-dziecko-,nId,5888636

... the parents died right away and the boy burnt alive. :(

In the few years that post-communist Czechoslovakia existed... there was widespread social... agony(?) remorse? among those who didn't resist. Unlike Poland where the majority resisted the communist system to some extent (even if in trivial ways) most Czechoslovaks just kind of went along with the flow... which is why they couldn't keep their country together.

Similarly Russia (where most were okay with the USSR) the social decay and degradation since it's dissolution has been the strongest...

Trying to change the topic to take the heat off your Commie trolling unpatriotic remarks that make you look like a HUGE waste of oxygen.

There is not a country on this earth that would want your kind.
This is a Polish forum, not a Russian forum so get lost creep.

@Novichok
You really bring nothing new to the table for discussion. Typical of those with limited intellect. They talk about what they think they know, over and over again. Small children and those with learning disabilities often do the same. Time for another ensure isn't it?

Right now, Russia is on the advance. Ukraine will hold out as long as they can and Russia will rape and pillage their way across the country. They only want to destroy it, they dont want it because they cant afford to rebuild it. Now, if they happen to F up and cross a NATO border, all bets are off. The weak link is not the Russian soldiers in Ukraine, the weak link is Belarus, and they could be taken out very quickly. We already know the citizens want to over throw the government.

@Paulina
I think you have some pretty good ideas on what could be happening. I think Belarus is the NATO target if Russia destroys Ukraine. Count on a ton of Democratic propaganda making its way to Minsk.

For anyone who has any faith at all, I'd just like to mention that St Michael the Archangel is the patron saint of Kyiv and that there is a special prayer to him, which John Paul II said that he wished us to pray. It's a prayer that was given to us by Pope Leo XIII in 1884 after he had a mystical experience in which Satan stated that he needed about a hundred years to accomplish his goals......if this war is not Satanic, then I don't know what is and we've all been aware over its course, that we're on the verge of an absolutely horrendous third world war. I was never a big believer in the idea of the devil, but the regimes which have presided in Russia for over a hundred years have been pure evil and nothing but.

Fighting is raging outside Kyiv today so I'm sharing the prayer here for the protection of Kyiv, its people and the government of Ukraine.

"Saint Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle. Be our protection against the wickedness and snares of the devil; May God rebuke him, we humbly pray; And do thou, O Prince of the Heavenly Host, by the power of God, thrust into hell Satan and all evil spirits who wander through the world for the ruin of souls. Amen."

Although this prayer is no longer recited at the end of Mass, I ask everyone not to forget it and to recite it to obtain help in the battle against the forces of darkness."

- Pope John Paul II, Regina Caeli, 24 April 1994

It used to be recited at the end of every Mass in Poland, not that long ago, when I was still a Catholic. My bet would be that it is still recited.

Imagine Merkel would be still in government.....*shudders*

Yes she has been strangely silent, i'm suprised the german media has not door stopped her for an interview? has there been any attempts, or her actions in shutting down the nuclear plants and transitioning to russian gas are conviently forgotten by the society and compliant press? Oh well i guess all those middle eastern crime gangs she let in as fake refugees will now have their pick of human traficking victims streaming into germany from poland atm.

That's my guess....without their support she would never have been so long in power after all!

Who knows... He's probably pretty paranoid at this point...


That's the "beauty" of authoritarian, corrupted regimes ruled by sociopaths and psychopaths - it's possible that he didn't know...
Allegedly Putin is furious because he got bad intelligence concerning Ukraine. Why did he get such bad intelligence? According to an expert who's been researching Russian secret services for the last 20 years, Andrei Soldatov, it's not only because FSB is not as competent as people tend to think, but because those higher up in the command chain were simply afraid to tell Putin the truth and were telling him what he wanted to hear (that's the Soldatov's guess, at least):

wiadomosci.wp.pl/putin-jest-wsciekly-wywiad-dostarczyl-mu-bledne-informacje-o-ukrainie-6746185661123136a

I guess it could be similar in case of the Russian army, who knows...

Because he asked the CIA for advice. The same CIA that discovered WMDs in Saddam's bedroom.

Some Communists believe that organized religion (churches, mosques, priests, religious colleges) is a plot by the aristocracy, the capitalist powers that be, to keep the people in subjection.

Theoretical Communism has no objection to your having a faith at home.
But as soon as you get together in more than a family group, they feel that the resultant group (Polish Forum) is a threat to "the people" and the Revolution of the Atheists.

In accordance with that belief, if they find that they cannot suppress a religious belief, they co-opt it instead, making sure that the religious hierarchy is approved of, and if possible indoctrinated by, them.

Hence the Soviet domination of the Russian Orthodox church is to steer public opinion like the Commie trolls do non-stop here on the P.F.

(The Russian Orthodox Church is one of those that flatly rejects Ukraine's autocephalous status.)

FYI, prayers are meant only for the praying persons to feel good about themselves by satisfying their need "to do something" - safely. Prayers have no impact on the events elsewhere.

No, realistic thinking. :)


It will be perfectly enough. So far Ukrainians estimate the cost of reconstruction at 10 billion $.


No, one or two years only. You probably don`t run your business in construction. :)


Insurance never covers war damage. Besides, Ukrainian parliament will deal with it in one session by passing proper laws. No worry.


Normally. I see no problem with getting it back.

Stop being so pessimistic.

Incoming material on the Russian army.... (thread doesn't seem to be finished yet, when thread is done I'll post a link) that is.....just..... just..... words fail, I don't shock or surprise easily but.... I had no effin' idea....


Neither do you.

From the looks of it, Poland would win against the Russian army. Most American national guard units would fare just fine against the Russians. They look completely amateur.

It's worse.... so much worse... you have no idea....

Agreed. It's the Taliban that they needed 20 years to lose to. Or was it a victory...I am not sure. This dementia...