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Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades



Crnogorac3
14 Mar 2022  #5191

George Galloway says that at the current stage of the war in Ukraine, 300,000 civilians have already been killed in the Iraq war in the same period. Yet the Russians are not going at nearly the same destructive pace as America went to Iraq (Shock and awe), although every lost life of innocent civilians is a great tragedy.

GefreiterKania
14 Mar 2022  #5192

Russian Orthodox parish in Amsterdam breaks all ties with Russian Orthodox Church...

wydarzenia.interia.pl/raporty/raport-ukraina-rosja/aktualnosci/news-wojna-w-ukrainie-parafia-w-amsterdamie-zrywa-z-moskwa,nId,5891925

...they don't want to have anything to do with Cyrylzeebub.

Paulina
14 Mar 2022  #5193

A very good interview with mayor of Warsaw, Rafał Trzaskowski, in English - he talked to Chuck Todd in Meet the Press (MSNBC) about the Ukrainian refugee crisis in Warsaw and Poland - he sounded the alarm and appealed for help for Poland in this crisis:

fb.watch/bKHKNyEk_I/

Btw, I didn't know that Trzaskowski's English is so good! :) 👏

PolAmKrakow
14 Mar 2022  #5194

@Crnogorac3
You know, it would have been easier for Putin to offer all Russian people in Donetsk and Luhansk relocation behind the Russian border in new homes and repatriated them. That would have been a lot easier to get done, and people would have applauded the effort and avoidance of war. But he is incapable of rational thought. Like most Russians he is simply just not that smart. And now the intelligent Russians are escaping. Thats called brain drain when your most intelligent people leave, your society goes further in the toilet.

@Paulina
Trzaskowski is a great speaker and will be president one day. Needs to move more toward the center and he will be very strong.

Atch
14 Mar 2022  #5195

I didn't know that Trzaskowski's English is so good! :)

Bilingual level fluency - and an American accent ;)

Paulina
14 Mar 2022  #5196

A video of 40 kids from an orphanage in Rivne, Ukraine, already safe in Poland. They're hoping to evacuate 320 more kids from orphanages from Southern and Eastern Ukraine, including disabled children. The number of kids who need evacuation is increasing all the time:

fb.watch/bKKF6XEx34/

But... but... Nazis! NAZIS!!!! NATO!!!!! RUSSIAN WORLD DOMINATION!!!! URRRAAAA!!!!!

it would have been easier for Putin to offer all Russian people in Donetsk and Luhansk relocation behind the Russian border

Of course, if you want to save your people you don't leave them to fend for themselves and get killed (allegedely) for 8 f*cking years. Russia could annex those areas just like they did it with Crimea when the Ukrainian army was still weak. So why didn't they? Because Putin needed this conflict to "smoulder" until there was the right time for an invasion on the whole of Ukraine. And he thought this time has come now.

Bilingual level fluency - and an American accent ;)

I know, right? I was so impressed that I've decided to check - already in high school Trzaskowski worked as a volunteer as an English translator, then he studied for a short while in the US and later on he graduated, among others, from English philology in Warsaw :) Btw, his great-grandfather, Bronisław Trzaskowski, was a linguist who established some of the first girls' secondary schools (gimnazja) in Poland.

and will be president one day.

Well, we was close last time, so who knows... :)

A protest against the war in Belarus (the video was posted on the 27th of February):

fb.watch/bKN0rr-Jjx/

mafketis
14 Mar 2022  #5197

Ukrainian neo-nazis?

The N-word is used a lot by Putin supporters but few who aren't Russian understand what they mean when they use the expression...

The invaluable Kamil Galeev explains (slightly edited for clarity)

"(Putin's first message to Russians and allies) is that Russia saved the world from the Nazi military machine (which it fostered for years, but who cares) and thus everyone is in eternal debt before Russia.

Second, is that Russia is stronger than anyone and absolutely can repeat WWII success - "можем поворить" (we can repeat, mafketis)
Putinist ideology is dualist. The dark force of Nazism fights against force of light,
Russia. Hence, anyone who objects to Russia *now* is Nazi. Finns, Poles and ofc Ukrainians. Having Ukrainian identity is itself a proof of your Nazism. If were not Nazi, you'd just become Russian

That's a paradoxical twist of Putinist ideology which is not well understood abroad. Any minority culture which is regarded as a threat to the homogeneity of Russian world will be declared:

1. fake
2. treasonous
3. Nazi
Russia is the force of light, so those defying it are Nazi"

In other words, it has no practical meaning beyond 'opposing Putin or Russian hegemony'...

full thread here:

twitter.com/kamilkazani/status/1503053699798769666

Galeev is doing amazing work in getting the word out how Putin's Russia works (controlled by state security and various mafias) and how and why Putin got the world into this mess..

Paulina
14 Mar 2022  #5198

Check out this video - Georgian sailors refuse to give fuel to a Russian ship and say stuff like "Russian ship, go f*ck yourself!", "Glory to Ukraine! Glory to heroes!" and "Putin is a d1ck!" xD:

fb.watch/bKN-maD-YB/

Crnogorac3
14 Mar 2022  #5199

how and why Putin got the world into this mess..

Scott Ritter, a former US Marine intelligence officer:
"We trained the Nazis. The first troops trained by American and British soldiers were the neo-Nazi battalion Azov"
You will not see this in in WEST media. But the truth, no matter how difficult, finds its way.


twitter.com/spriter99880/status/1502813023676907523

Also please refer to my post no #4,891

mafketis
14 Mar 2022  #5200

Scott Ritter

convicted child sex offender who exposed himself to what he thought was a 15 year old girl.... not a lot of moral standing there....

again (being opposed to Russian policy and not wanting to identify as Russia =/= nazi).

Paulina
14 Mar 2022  #5201

A video of Ukrainians in Kherson refusing to take food from Russian occupants (Russian soldiers tried to make a propaganda video showing them helping the Ukrainians) and someone shouted: "Russian ship, go f*ck yourself!" lol:

fb.watch/bKONVVbCK3/

Crnogorac3
14 Mar 2022  #5202

@mafketis

Lindsey Graham & John McCain in Ukraine: Preparing for a proxy war with Russia (2016)

youtu.be/Bvt3asiSc8A

Lindsey Graham is a limp wristed ZOGbot faggoteer. A coprophile.

Atch
14 Mar 2022  #5203

And of course yesterday in occupied Kherson thousands demonstrated in the streets against the Russians - brave, brave Ukrainians.

mafketis
14 Mar 2022  #5204

s a limp wristed ZOGbot faggoteer

And... that's relevant to what? What about the well-known fact that conscripts in the Russian army are often turned into male prostitutes and sodomized by officers and/or businessmen?

Velund
14 Mar 2022  #5205

The Ukrainian Armed Forces fired a Tochka-U missile with a cluster warhead into the center of Donetsk. 20 dead on the spot, including children, and many wounded, including heavy ones. There were no military facilities there, not even close.

The footage from Donetsk is just creepy.

But you are not interested, and they won't show it to you. Don't complain later, when the same abomination, which you let in, will slaughter your childrens.

Crnogorac3
14 Mar 2022  #5206

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Paulina
14 Mar 2022  #5207

@Velund, I do care, more than your bastard of a president. It seems I even care about your soldiers more than he does and more than you do. It's just:

1. I don't believe you.
2. Putin started it and he can finish it - but he refuses to do so.

Don't complain later, when the same abomination, which you let in, will slaughter your childrens.

Oh, I will complain. Children don't kill other children, you vindictive s1cko and they don't deserve any of this.

Was this video taken in Russia?:

fb.watch/bKPNwm_YJ7/

A guy stands with a card that says "Hug me if you're against the war". At one point an elderly man walks up and asks: "What to do if I'm against the war?" "Hug me" - the young man answers. The older guy hugs him and says: "I've seen war, you see.."

mafketis
14 Mar 2022  #5208

when the same abomination, which you let in, will slaughter your childrens

Be clearer.... are you fantasizing about killing Polish children?

This person disagrees that Ukraine fired...

twitter.com/kysusha2/status/1503313635376263174

cms neuf
14 Mar 2022  #5209

Remind me Russian trolls what this war is about ? Donetsk ? biolabs ? Jews ?

Must be awesome morale in your basement at the moment and looking forward to a few weeks time when you will be at the front fighting for this sad old man who thinks you are all worthless scum, not fit to clean the dust off his gold mobile phone.

Atch
14 Mar 2022  #5210

fantasizing about killing Polish children?

He'd ideally like to get his hands on the ones with cancer to make up a full set with the terminally ill Ukrainian children his glorious Russian comrades have been murdering - oh woops! I forgot! Russian forces haven't killed anyone. It's the Ukrainians, bombing all their own cities and killing their own people just to make Russia look bad.

Paulina
14 Mar 2022  #5211

@Atch :)))

Remind me Russian trolls what this war is about ? Donetsk ? biolabs ? Jews ?

You forgot about Nazis, NATO, dirty bomb, respecting Russia and RUSSIAN WORLD DOMINATION! lol

mafketis
14 Mar 2022  #5212

biolabs ?

Also worth noting that is a Russian propaganda thing brought up many times before (most recently in Kazakhstan....)

mafketis
14 Mar 2022  #5213

Times I wish I understood Russian...

The amazing Christo Grozev (twitter.com/christogrozev) apparently called up some of the FSB figures under house arrest.

short story: Apparently massive amounts of money ("billions" but what currency?) were budgeted for paving the way for a coup in Ukraine, that is for bribing military and government officials, university figures (to lend intellectual support) etc.

Since it's Russia we're talking about... guess what happened to all that money?

hint:


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Paulina
14 Mar 2022  #5214

The same journalist who made the video about those trucks for Russian army going through Polish-Belarusian border visited Ptak Warsaw Expo to show the scale of the refugee crisis and to appeal for help:

fb.watch/bKSrTifLSx/

Atch, check out the number of kids' shoes at 4:27...

PolAmKrakow
14 Mar 2022  #5215

@cms neuf "Remind me Russian trolls what this war is about ? Donetsk ? biolabs ? Jews ?"

Fing right! These idiots cant even get their story straight. Make a new one up every day to cover yesterdays F up. This is nothing more than a traveling side show with weapons. And if they thought people hated Russians before, I wonder how badly their feelings will be hurt for the next 50 years.

Funny, how no one is talking about invading Russia. No one ever has. Because no one wants it and no one wants to go there. Think about that for a bit. If Russia was so important, so strategic, wouldnt the west want to desperately get there? The fact is that even since 1991, your country contributes less than 2% toward the profits of companies doing business in Russia based in the United States.

Privatizing business who are not operating in Russia because of this war? Only shows why after the war, no one dare invest there because we already know what will happen when Russia starts the next war. Putin and Russia have not played the long game here. Eventually it will end for Ukraine in either victory or defeat. For Russia? This is not going to end for years and recovery will take about 50 years. Thats the long game.

Crnogorac3
14 Mar 2022  #5216

The Ukrainian Armed Forces fired a Tochka-U missile with a cluster warhead into the center of Donetsk.

t.me/smotri_media/9746

This happened regularly in the previous 8 years, when no one in the West paid attention. Admittedly, they did not use old Tochka rockets, but they did use artillery while it was near Donetsk.

Now Paulina will lecture us with her proverbial - "this is a crime, no one claims it is not, I kept saying it was a crime, however .... ...."

some 40 lines about how and why Russia is responsible for that as well.

PolAmKrakow
14 Mar 2022  #5217

@Crnogorac3
Again, if true then the Russians should have left for mother Russia. They did not. Simple. Next stupid statement?

Paulina
14 Mar 2022  #5218

some 40 lines about how and why Russia is responsible for that as well.

Because it is. Putin started it in 2014. None of it would happen, people wouldn't be getting killed on both sides if Russia didn't start it. And, again, Russians aren't taking any responsibility for anything, as usual. Typical.

Cojestdocholery
14 Mar 2022  #5219

onet and newsweek german onwer had Gerhard Schroeder as their main adviser in Poland.
We have now pro-Russia and pro- Putin media and people, like Tomasz Lis for example.

Because it is.

Yes, you are right that Poland should start buling refugee camps. You should put it this way rather than the way you did say it.

Also Trzaskowski talk lost but do nothing, only uses Warsaw money to bulid a political platforum for himself and his friends.
Lewandowski a very rich dude, look at his twiter, he is a shamless twit. That one about bars for Ukrainian chlidren.

Cojestdocholery
14 Mar 2022  #5220

George Galloway says

he is dickhead, Russia has no air supriorty not near enough, Ukrainians are kicking their ass. All they have is their guns and most of that need to be moved to about 20, 25 km before they can shell a city.

So is not Russian do not want to do it. They are not able to kill as many people as they want.


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