Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades

@Cojestdocholery, if you really believe that Polish media and people are pro-Russia and pro-Putin then you're not only detached from reality as much as the Russian trolls and Putin are, but there also must be something seriously wrong with your head. Or you're simply stupid o_O


And I'm sure you have plenty of evidence for that and you're going to show all of it to us, just not on this thread - this thread is about something else.

Look now is the time for poles to stay united. Pawian & Co have dropped their anti PiS rhetoric and I & Co have shut up about PO. I suggest you join us and stay united in polish solidarity.


Agreed. Anyway in times of troubles Poles fight as one!

Anyway...
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America's Hesitation Is Heartbreaking

'Putin and his subordinates are, in fact, less politicians than gangsters, and need to be treated as such. Instead of talk of off-ramps, for example, there should be promises of war-crimes trials (names included) for those who kidnap mayors, shoot at fleeing civilians, and target maternity hospitals; instead of worry about escalation, there should be promises of the eradication of the Russian army in Ukraine should it use chemical weapons. Instead of carefully titrated military aid, there should be a massive effort to arm people who know why they are fighting and are good at it.'

theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/03/ukraine-united-states-nato/627052/

Not are, they were. Before the war. Not Polish media but German media in Poland, were pro-Russia and pro- Putin as by the extention. If you don't see it. You are really stupid.

Photos below is from summer camps for kids (including "Azovets"), where nazis indoctrinate kids with their ideology and teach them to use firearms and knives.

I agree. And there are other threads for our Polish-Polish squabbles.


Thanks for the link, the guy is spot on - he expressed my sentiments well.


Kids in Russia have been militarized like this too, but on a greater scale, I think. If you live in Russia you should know this. Or do I have to look for photos for you?

Donbass and Novorossia is rusian lands, that was handed by Lenin to someone else. Russians will not gift this land to nazis from Galicia and Volyn, so you can shut up your stinking mouth.

PS: I guess I won't be wasting my time with this swamp of incurables. I guess you'll understand something when you wash yourselves in blood. I won't feel sorry for you, just as you didn't feel sorry for the thousands who died in the Donbass. Those who died for the same thing that you consider your inalienable right - to live in the land of your ancestors and speak your language.

@Velund, I see you're getting confused and are losing it, so maybe better rest a little :) Perhaps ask your bosses for a day off, get some air or something :)) I don't know about Moscow, but we have a beautiful sunny day here in Kielce :)))

Great article. Let's hope someone important enough reads it and does what's right.


Stop it. You know very well that it is not about Donbas.

Hey moron , don't you think civilians died on both side of the border in Donbass? Both the Ukris and the separatists were shelling since 2014.

Poles bathed in their own blood many times already thanks to tsarist Russia and later on thanks to the Soviet Union. Modern Russia bathed Chechens in their own blood too. So, tell me, smartass, should I feel sorry for your people, or do as you do, and just say it's simply bloody "karma"?

twitter.com/fragma_dia2/status/1499897595665301508
Viktor Burlik, the deputy government of the Khmelnytsky region, openly carries the SS motto "my part is loyalty" on his social networks and actively participated in the Maidan organized by George Soros, the CIA and conducted by Victoria Nuland. The one on the right is 2014 with a Nazi wolfsangel on his t-shirt.

twitter.com/fragma_dia2/status/1499898369858326531
This debil is Artem Bonov, at the training in the paramilitary camp of Azov. He went to the police after Nazis like Azov (where he militarized the massacre in Donbas in his early years) took power and became a POLICEMAN of the city of Kiev.

twitter.com/fragma_dia2/status/1499893225213120515
Ukrainian fascists at a party in Kiev's "Hot Bar" organized by cartoonist Anton Chadski, cut and eat a cake represented by a Russian baby on a Russian flag. At that time, the children of Lugansk and Donetsk suffered massively from the bombing of Ukronazis and Ukraine, the whole world is silent.

twitter.com/fragma_dia2/status/1499893950781472779
Ukronazi Alexander Gramanchuk shares cans of meat with the coat of arms of Ukrainian collaborators and OUN-UPA colors, the label says "Russophone meat for babies" Again alluding to the dead children in Donbas.

twitter.com/fragma_dia2/status/1499891517581893632
Ukronazis shoot from their trenches by waving Nazi flags at positions towards Donbas (2019)

twitter.com/fragma_dia2/status/1499894638941024260
Soldiers of the fascist Ukrainian army load rockets on tanks and shout glory to Ukraine (OUN-UPA motto) while shooting at a civilian apartment in Donbas (2015) Next, a mother from Gorlovka cries because her son was killed by the Ukronazis.

twitter.com/fragma_dia2/status/1499900820011327498
Ukronazis from the Donetsk battalion that massacred Donbas enter the Police Station at the AK checkpoint as if nothing had happened and threaten retaliation against the police, who stopped them from massacring (2015)

twitter.com/fragma_dia2/status/1499901539569348611
Another Ukronazi paramilitary organization, called "Trident Stepan Bandera", took the oath of office on an automatic Kalashnikov rifle covered with a black and red flag.

The whole world is not silent - we are laughing at the pitiful way you have to earn a living

For further reading:

What is Ukraine and against what is Russia fighting?

vidovdan.org/slika-dana/sta-je-ukrajina-i-protiv-cega-se-bori-rusija/

But that's not true. Here is some information from Human Rights Watch, one of those 'western' organizations that you sneer at, detailing breaches of human rights by the Ukrainian government. In January of 2021 a European Court of Human Rights decision found that the Ukrainian government committed multiple breaches of the European Convention on Human Rights in the course of public order operations during the Maidan protests, including the right to life, the prohibition of torture, and the right to liberty and security. Bear in mind that these breaches have nothing to do with the present administration as they date back to 2014.

In May, parliament adopted a long overdue law aligning Ukraine's national legislation with international law to allow for effective domestic prosecutions of grave international crimes, including those committed in Donbas and Crimea. At time of writing, because Zelensky has not signed the law, it has not gone into effect. Additional changes are likely to be needed to the Criminal Procedural Code to support effective investigations and prosecutions.

In late June, Ukraine's prosecutor general removed Gyunduz Mamedov as director of the government's specialized war crimes department. Human rights and watchdog groups criticized the decision as groundless and politically motivated.

But equally, Russians in those regions are just as and indeed more guilty of breaches of human rights. Russia has an appalling record of abuse towards its own people, let alone in disputed territories.

@cms neuf, you know what I find fascinating? That for all those 8 years during which the people of Donbas and Luhansk were supposedly suffering so horribly... our PF Putinazi trolls were... silent... about what was going on in there. Why is that? Why are they informing us about all of this only now? Didn't they care about what was happening to those people for all this time? Why this sudden information flood on PF? Why they suddenly started caring only now?

Putin like ambiguous unsettled questions. He can ignore them, disappear them from the news cycle entirely, declare victory or defeat or new action without anything on the ground actually chaning....

Donbass is a very good example - silent for 8 years and the screeching about oppression and the lap dogs all jump up and start barking in unison while wagging their little tails...

While human rights organizations in the west were reporting about both sides of the conflict there and holding both sides accountable.

Wow.....admirable!

"Help each other! Support each other! Keep the defense up! And protect the state! Together we will win. Glory to Ukraine! »

President Vladimir Zelensky's address.

facebook.com/president.gov.ua/videos/1070760493786008

Meanwhile - Leroy Merlin, Auchan, Decathlon and Spar are still doing business as usual in Russia...

biznes.interia.pl/gospodarka/news-te-firmy-zostaly-na-rosyjskim-rynku-szef-msz-ukrainy-wzywa-d,nId,5892232

portalspozywczy.pl/handel/wiadomosci/leroy-merlin-zostaje-w-rosji-i-poszerza-swoja-oferte-polska-centrala-tlumaczy,208703.html

... keep that in mind when you go shopping, folks.

I read that many Ukrainian men brought their families to Poland for their safety and are now returning to Ukraine to fight the enemy.


Like anything else Paulina, "if they don't feel any pain themselves they don't care."
Now that it is effecting their lives they become concerned.

Also did you see that a new case against Russia over flight MH-17 was filed ?
The Netherlands and Australia announced on Monday they are taking Russia before the International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO), a UN agency.

msn.com/en-us/news/world/netherlands-australia-launch-new-case-against-russia-over-mh17/ar-AAV2iPw?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531

@Velund
Wash ourselves in blood? You mean like you are you pussy sitting behind a keyboard? If you feel so strongly, go volunteer for the front. The blood that we will wash ourselves in will be Russian if they dare come to Poland. Russia goes after the weakest non NATO member because it is afraid of a real army and Putin knows his ground forces would be wiped out. This is the brave Russian army, meat.

@Crnogorac3
Another Russian pussy. Keep typing away, while bullets tear your comrades apart. Paulina is correct in asking where you scumbags have been hiding the last 8 years preaching about the crimes in Donetsk and Luhansk? You have been liking the boots of comrade Putin because you are not smart enough to get out oof the dying nation of Russia.

Know how much a car is today? 25% more expensive than just last week. Try buying a new laptop today? Almost 30% more expensive and thats if you can find one. Russian stock exchange? Defaulting on national debt to take place in about two weeks. Whats the plan then? Maybe just start throwing some ketchup from McDonalds on some rubles and see how that taste?

This pregnant woman and her newborn died!

Congrats Putin....more "Nazis" killed!!! Hope you are proud of your glorious forces, so brave shelling of a hospital!

bbc.com/news/world-europe-60734706

A short video from a family friend showing what they have organised at the Premysł border for the Ukr refugees. He drove from łodz with PAH (Polska Akcja Humanitarna)

drive.google.com/file/d/16Rk3HFAgTv76PN3FY-UtbpDK-28v-I5A/view

SIGNAL discovered a girl who was photographed on the ruins of a maternity hospital (t.me/ssigny/10127) in Mariupol. She turned out to be a model and a popular Mariupol beauty-blogger (instagram.com/gixie_beauty). Her name is Marianna Podgurskaya. The girl is really pregnant, but there was no way she could "lie down" in the maternity hospital, which had long been occupied by the Azov neo-Nazis. The girl was given things in her hands, made up and brought under the cameras. "Exclusives" were entrusted to famous photographer Yevgeny Maloletka (instagram.com/evgenymaloletka?utm_medium=copy_link), who now works closely with Western news agencies and works for The Associated Press. His photographs of the crisis in Ukraine can be found (osce.org/ru/special-monitoring-mission-to-ukrain...) even on the OSCE website. The same model has played in three episodes.

On March 8, an interview came out (lenta.ru/articles/2022/03/08/mariupol/) with a female employee of a maternity hospital. She reported that Azov kicked all the staff and patients out of there and occupied the building. On March 5, it was recorded (ria.ru/20220305/mariupol-1776657552.html) that Azov fighters were firing from the territory of the same maternity hospital. On more than one occasion, we saw the militants setting up positions in the immediate vicinity (t.me/ssigny/10051) of civilian infrastructure.

EU solidarity for the win!

twitter.com/DorotaPodlesna/status/1503357952882880515/photo/2


quick reminder: when Putin supports say 'nazi' they mean anyone who doesn't fully support the Russian government as explained in post #5,201

Putin is the new Covid

bitchute.com/video/kRo6Qys7aIEC/

@mafketis

So, there is no doubts that whole story smell like fake news? Only complaint is about "Neo" in "Neo-nazi"?

Now i quit this stinking place finally. Bye.

@Velund

This is a lie! And this is an exposed lie at that! This woman and her baby have been real breathing people, till you killed them!

You have to face it....your "liberation", your "fight against Nazis" is just bloody murder of innocent civilians!

You are not coming out of this as admired heroes.....but as despised, hated pariahs! No amount of propaganda you keep telling yourself will help you out of this!

Your people, your whole country will suffer from this black mark on your history for years, decades to come....believe me, I'm a German, I know what I'm talking about!

Of course. Nobody believes the retarded putinist propaganda - not even putinists themselves. It's only for feeding the brains of their poor peasants at home.


...and, thanks to the omnipresent Internet, the whole world can watch the crimes right after they are commited.


No propaganda can win against people with phones and access to the internet, reinforced by free media all over the world.


Indeed. I almost feel sorry for them. Almost.

The White House sent Jake Sullivan to meet a top Chinese official in Rome today.
Sullivan said Sunday that China will face "consequences" if it helps Russia evade sanctions.
Russia asked China to provide military and economic support since invading Ukraine, per reports.
Russian oligarchs have come under swift sanctions from the US, UK, and EU in response to the war in Ukraine.
They have lost a combined $80 billion of their wealth so far.
If China gets involved, it will be WW3.
Welcome to the "Great Reset".