Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades

@Novichok
Thats the thing. Traitors should feel threatened, but they bring it upon themselves. You arguments are not constructive, and not founded on any rational thought. All you can do is parrot past arguments and make apples to oranges comparisons. You points of view contain zero logic, and no imagination. Cuba, Iraq, Afghanistan bla bla bla. This is a Russian war. The US is not involved YET. The US did not start it. Russia did. And all you can do is promote its justifications based on BS. Your arguments and discussion point are tired and weak, as expected from a tired and weak old man.

People like you have no friends in real life. You are on an island of your own making. You are a man truly without a country. Your citizenship is based upon a fraud in that you would have had to claim to support and defend the constitution of the United States and all you do is condemn the USA for doing what is considered by most the right things to do. So when a time comes and a Russian see's you as an American will you get in your big hug before he shoots you or will you just beg for mercy and tell them how much you supported them on PF? Fing coward and traitor is what you are.

In contrast to... who? Is it cranky for Japanese PMs to visit shrines dedicated to Imperial soldiers? Is it cranky for Poland to throw a hissy fit every time a major international publication writes about "Polish camps"? Is it cranky for Britain to go out on its own because it doesn't like being second fiddle to the Krauts? Is it cranky for France to cut electricity to Brits over some fishing rights?

Everything can be distilled to Trotzphase and infantilism. Only Germans are responsible and fair.

Now even the jew Blinken condemned the attack on the military base of yesterday near Lviv. So what should they hit if not a military base? To wait for them at the front in a gentlemanly way...

The airport the Russians smashed along the border with Poland was a kind of hub where foreign mercenaries were trained and some of the equipment was delivered.

Perhaps Blinken is among the drug addicts Putin mentions.

It seems that Zelensky fired the head of the SBU for the Lviv region.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Security_Service_of_Ukraine

The head of the SBU did not expect this from yesterday morning, and the Russians announced it the previous day.

twitter.com/BBCYaldaHakim/status/1502983608038047747

:)))

As Russians like to say: "Умом Россию не понять." 🤷


I have a question too...
Velund, Bobko, Crnogorac3 - why for all those 8 years you haven't written a word about the tragic situation of Russians in Donbas and Luhansk and terrible crimes of the Azov battalion and you suddenly remembered about all of this only now? Why were you silent for 8 years and you're flooding us with all this information only now? Didn't you care befote about those Russians enough to inform us about their plight? Why only now?

That brings it down to who threw the first punch and what kind of punch it was. Once a poster is attacked personally as a deflection from his arguments everything is on the table. This is my MO. I don't recall one instance where I would be personal and nasty without being "attacked" in a personal and nasty way first.


Please don't have a heart attack but, based on pure logic, those you mentioned are the least valuable to any society under any conditions. The most valuable - healthy young men. When the Titanic was going down, they should be priority one, not the old and the sick.

Answer is simple. You are useless. Difference between now and then, is you are getting involved.

@Bobko, who is "you"?

@Paulina
Poland. What's the point of telling you about Ukrainian atrocities in the Donbass? What are you gonna do? They killed your people in Wolyn, own your Kresy, and yet you are blinded to all their crimes because you enjoy how they poke the bear in the eye.

We raised it at the UN, OSCE, and Council of Europe. We implored the world to stop sending weapons to Ukraine, lest they try a forceful return of those territories. It was clear to everyone in Russia that if Ukraine retook those territories it would take out its wrath on the local population for their "collaborationism".

In regards to PolAm's proposal of granting the DNR/LNR folks Russian passports first - we did. Much than a million passports issued.

Along with NATO expansion. Over and over, but the West just blew it off...No, he will not, chicken like Obama...Well, he did. What??? It was not supposed to happen...a guy meaning what he was saying...so un-Western...

You are not very well informed it seems:

https://polishforums.com/polonia/poland-volunteers-novorossiya-72332/

Not only did I personally go to Donbas but I helped to organize recruitment of volunteers - soldiers with war experience from the wars in ex-Yugoslavia to help the people there fight against that evil.

In the corrupt mainstream western media there was a complete blackout of information. They never reported these crimes because the victims were Russians.

Please understand, nobody who is normal likes war, to see destroyed buildings, civilians who are fleeing their homes and becoming refugees, but Putin really had no other choice how to resolve this situation considering that for 8 years of negotiations the Ukrainian side did not fulfill any of the obligations it had signed (Minsk 2)

I know people from/with connections there and they tell a very different story and I believe them over you (not to mention Vova)

Don't worry, these trash have some dark days ahead. All kinds of things are being planned for them. Bet on it . There's many roads to get to them.

A sliver lining: The russian military is no juggernaut. I almost with they would pull some **** with NATO. They'd be well f/cked are far from home.

I am so familiar with that method ...lying by omission. The US presstitutes do it every single day. I have yet to see what Putin says on ABC, CBS, and NBC. What some women who made it to Poland ... by the shovel. They even interview 7-year-olds, but not Putin.


That's what the NKVD guys said in Katyn except that it wasn't "days".

That's the thinking of a psychopath. Normal people protect the most vulnerable and consider attacking them as cruel and cowardly.


If there's no point in doing so then why you and the rest are doing it? lol


And the UN didn't believe you? With China and all other countries in it?


Now why would they stop if Russia was sending weapons and "green men" to Donbas and Luhansk?


You should have thought about it before you started it.
Now, why Russia didn't simply annex Donbas and Luhansk, like it did with Crimea, in order to protect Russians there?


Every country that wants to join NATO and is eligible (and NATO is willing to take them in) should be allowed to do so. End of story. Russia can be in alliance with China and so other countries can choose their alliances too. Until Russia understands that smaller countries have rights too, there will be no frienship between us.

What is unfortunate, is that next to Russians only Poles have had a taste of what toxic Ukrainian nationalism means. It is not a constructive nationalism, but a truly infernal one. Polish taking "enemy of my enemy" to its logical extremes, instead of helping put out the fire.

No, it's not the end of the story. See Ukraine. Today. This story will not end even when the shooting ends.


But not with Cuba in 1962. I wonder why? Maybe because on a clear day I can see Cuba from Key West?

In the democratic elections, Ukraine elected a president, who was overthrown by the "people" in a classic coup on the "euromaidan", and the "euromaidan" is presented as the "will of the people". What is the will of the people, elections or the mob in the square? After the "euromaidan", the half of Ukraine that does not want NATO does not want the EU, is silenced and pushed aside, the majority that elected the president who was overthrown by the coup, is violently marginalized.

In Odessa, Nazi-Banderists burned people alive, there are recordings on the net, so a clear message was sent to all those who do not agree with the "democratization of the euromaidan", you will be killed. People in the building were burned, whoever tried to escape was killed with sticks at the exit of the building. In Mariupol, Azov killed civilians on the streets, whoever dared to protest against the coup on the euromaidan... of course, when it was not on CNN news, it did not happen.

They tried similarly in Lugansk and Donetsk, and it did not turn out the best. But yes, they are separatists and "Ukraine wants to join NATO". As it was broadcast on CNN - "the bastion of truth" once upon a time.

youtu.be/zCayGNRNLVI

Please try Katyn again.. OH PLEASE TRY IT. Many in the American Midwest / South will flat out volunteer. These people shoot every week for sport. They will savor the opportunity. Trust me. It won't be hapless grannies, toddlers in your face then.

@Pinching Pete
Just careful these volunteers don't end like the volunteers yesterday in Yavorov. Poor f*ckers thought they gonna defend "Ukrainian Liberty" with rifles in hand, instead got a barrage of cruise missiles on their head. Not fun volunteering against a nuclear superpower.

@Bobko
Then those same Russians should have been repatriated to Russia. End of story. But Russia didnt want that. For 8 years Putin funded Wagner and the other green men to steal those regions from Ukraine. Not one volunteer killed yesterday from the bombing you moron. Not one foreigner going to fight for Ukraine. But I can promise you, they are killing Russians tonight. One bullet at a time your comrades are getting killed, for nothing.

@Crnogorac3
And for 8 years Russians have occupied Ukraine land. Period. Why should anyone have to negotiate on their own Fing property. Come on my land in the US and I will blow your head off if you are not invited. Thats how the world works. Take your Fing people back to Russia and be done. But Russia couldnt do that because they can never do that. They have always been imperialist.

@Novichok
As for your NATO argument repeated for the millionth time. NO one GAF about Russias feelings. NATO would not invade because no one wants Russia for anything. On the other hand Russia has a history, an extensive one of taking over countries that are not theirs. So NATO exists essentially because of Russia, and they just repeated their imperialist BS. Anyone buying the Russian BS is simply retarded. This is an evil country and the majority of people are also evil because the majority supports the evil ruler. So, F them, lets keep processing the meat.

This thread is from 2014. I remember the discussions on PF at that time. I didn't take part in them for long because after the Crimea annexation I lost the control over my computer and it got infected with viruses to such a point that I wasn't able to use it for a few months. So I might've missed out on some stuff since I wasn't using the internet at that time at all. Still, what about the remaining 8 years? Maf wrote in that thread that all your videos were from 2014:

https://polishforums.com/polonia/poland-volunteers-novorossiya-72332/2/#msg1583557

I hate you guys for scaring off Velund with your retardation. Was a good guy :(

Ehh, new volunteers might be a little better equipped, comrade. And nukes, nukes.. why not fight like men? Always bragging about how tough the "bear" is.. Got news for you though, don't think Po.o Teen's going to nuke anything. He's tested us and soon we'll test him.

I don't know about the EU but do you honestly think the U.S. is just going to tuck it's tail here? Death in battle is a glorious thing after all. And if you survive , you'll be lauded for the rest of your life in the States: benefits galore, jobs.. women. Ad infinitum.

@Bobko
We really don't care what any Russian hates. Go back to Russia and support your homeland from home. Stop being a foreign agent and enjoying the USA. Be a real Russian and say F the USA and go home. That I would respect. Anything less and you are just another agent who should be deported.

Why lie? It wasn't a coup.... he ran away like a frightened little girl.


In the words of Olga Tokariuk

"Many in the West hope for peace, whatever the terms of it. Ukrainians know peace is only possible if Ukraine wins"

twitter.com/olgatokariuk/status/1503328537717227526

Too bad... Germany is now a de facto Russian ally.... when Germany is bought by a foreign power... it stays bought.

twitter.com/andersostlund/status/1503327673128476673

Velund four hours ago:


And then he posts again lol

Velund two hours ago:


I'm guessing that he'll write again sooner or later ;) Unless, of course, he'll end up in Ukraine... lol


We didn't scare him off :))) He simply got discouraged because we don't believe every word he's saying :)


There was no Russia in 1962, there was the Soviet Union. And it's 2022, not 1962. So, does Russia want to be in some kind of formal alliance with Cuba? And vice versa?

Yes, strange why people in this thread need so many changes of underwear.

You started it and never stopped. Were you expecting help now that you need it? Really?

@Cojestdocholery

Lvov - who's city?

Mine aren't soiled, especially after. watching Russian tank and infantry maneuvers . WTF? Looks like something from Benny Hill.

Something like this might be coming for you..

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_73_Easting