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Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades



Vlad1234
16 Mar 2022  #5611

If there was that fear that had been now laid to rest!

Historical hates don't lay in rest overnight. Sometimes it could take hundreds of years. I guess many in the West now enjoy that Russians kill each other. But is there a way for a real sympathy? Will see... I think what may work for Ukraine in the nearest years is not membership in EU, but some kind of a Marshall plan. But it will take trillions of dollars of investments...

Bratwurst Boy
16 Mar 2022  #5612

Interesting:

Response to Russian attacks Ukraine docks onto Europe's power grid

Ukraine complains of many Russian attacks on its power supply. Now the country has been connected to the continental European power supply - and Moldova with it.

spiegel.de/wirtschaft/soziales/ukraine-mit-europaeischem-stromnetz-verbunden-a-f22e8d44-aed8-4624-b04b-e9d81e4fabc8

One step closer to Europe....away from Russia.....I'm not sure Putin had planned THAT! But seriously, was he truly to so blind/uninformed about the Ukrainians???

The electricity grids of Ukraine and Moldova have been successfully connected to the continental European electricity grid. This was announced by EU Energy Commissioner Kadri Simson. "In this area, Ukraine is now part of Europe," she said. The EU will support Ukraine in the energy sector. ....

twitter.com/vonderleyen/status/1504088410897764355?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1504088410897764355%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fspiegel.de%2Fwirtschaft%2Fsoziales%2Fukraine-mit-europaeischem-stromnetz-verbunden-a-f22e8d44-aed8-4624-b04b-e9d81e4fabc8

British intelligence reports high casualties on the Russian side

spiegel.de/ausland/ukraine-krieg-russlands-verluste-und-flucht-aus-mariupol-der-ueberblick-am-mittwochmittag-a-9efb3166-1007-494a-8f6f-f8a81b603dc5

Britain believes that Russia has already suffered heavy casualties in the war. Ukrainian forces have tactically exploited Russia's weaknesses, thwarted the Russian advance and "inflicted heavy casualties on the troops," according to a British Defense Ministry intelligence update. The Russians are struggling with the challenges of the Ukrainian terrain. Since they failed to gain control of the airspace, their options are limited.

Novichok
16 Mar 2022  #5613

...they used like 9 - 14 rockets that cost each at last 30 million dollars to kill 30 people.

Hey, genius, when Russians want to kill people, they kill people, not empty apartment buildings. Google Stalingrad and Katyn if you want to know how they do it.

Crow
16 Mar 2022  #5614

Let`s face it. Don`t ignore this fact. EU is nazi oriented.

Bratwurst Boy
16 Mar 2022  #5615

Historical hates don't lay in rest overnight.

Nobody here hates Ukrainians....where should that "historical hate" come from???

Paulina
16 Mar 2022  #5616

Hey, genius, when Russians want to kill people, they kill people, not empty apartment buildings.

BBC:

"Russia has attacked a theatre in Mariupol where civilians have been sheltering, the city's deputy mayor tells the BBC
Between 1,000 and 1,200 people may have been inside, Serhiy Orlov says. The number of casualties is currently unknown"

I remember reading about this theater a few days ago - that people were hiding there and actors were helping them as volunteers...

Crow
16 Mar 2022  #5617

Blood of Slavs is on the hands of NATO.

Cojestdocholery
16 Mar 2022  #5618

that Russians kill each other.

What are you talking about? Russians are ruled from Moscow. All others are not.

Russians want to kill people

They are rather crap at that, so they turn on civlilians and POW. I wouldn't call it good.

One step closer to Europe..

If not for Germany plotting in the corner. Like greedy fat cats and politicians on their strings? I just don't get why Germany is so obssesed with Russian. Ja, cheap gas more money for some Germans, but Poland is three times market for Germany than Russia. Poland has potentcial, Russia potencial is just delusions of empty space.

Blood of Slavs is on the hands of NATO.

Watch out, the Vatican heavy brigade is on it way to Serbia if you don't give up they will use their nukes.

twitter.com/MaxBlumenthal/status/1503837112520617991

Here is a character on Ukrainian state television, dead cold, quoting Obersturmbannführer Adolf Eichmann and calling for the killing of Russian youth... And what do you say, unprovoked Russian aggression?

mafketis
16 Mar 2022  #5619

Blood of Slavs is on the hands of NATO.

that's not how you spell PUTIN or NATO....

Paulina
16 Mar 2022  #5620

Blood of Slavs is on the hands of

...ruSSia.

Bratwurst Boy
16 Mar 2022  #5621

Poland has potentcial, Russia potencial is just delusions of empty space.

So true!

And they are learning.....the hard way.....

Novichok
16 Mar 2022  #5622

The number of casualties is currently unknown"

They died because in wars people die. They would be alive today if Mr. Z said I give up. As I said, in every fight that ends badly for one side, there is a moment when the loser has a choice to continue or die. Yes, I know, that "democracy" and those "freedoms". I wonder what the dead in that movie theatre thought about the idea of fighting "till the last man" a minute before they died.

BTW, Poland did it in 1939. I guess the idea of fighting until the last man and dying were not appealing enough.

Paulina
16 Mar 2022  #5623

@Novichok, they died because people were unable to leave Mariupol - Russians would shoot at people trying to flee even through humanitarian corridors.

They would be alive today if Mr.

...Fiutin didn't invade Ukraine. Simple.

Vlad1234
16 Mar 2022  #5624

where should that "historical hate" come from???

They still closely associated with Russians (at least to the West from Poland) and Russians beat Napoleon, Hitler and showed to the West "Kuz'ma mother" during USSR.

PolAmKrakow
16 Mar 2022  #5625

@Vlad1234
With a weakened Russia EU will grow. They will take advantage of Russia. Ukraine will never be in NATO, but they will be in EU. Next stop Moldova for EU. Then Finland and Sweden in NATO. Putin punched all their tickets with this move and showing how week he really is. Russia is F'ed

Putin and Russia about to be labeled as war criminals from the International Court of Justice. Trials and hangings await them. Putin can never leave Russia again without threat of death or trial leading to death. Just the way it should be. If only the same would happen to traitors and trolls here it would be a better world.

Hundreds of innocents may have been killed in a theater being used as a shelter. That is genocide and that is no better than Hitler. I can only hope Putins is dragged through the street and treated like meat as he treated his soldiers.

Novichok
16 Mar 2022  #5626

they died because people were unable to leave Mariupol

People died because they have a moron for president.
Even Poles, not known for logical thinking, decided they had enough in October 1939 and 1944.

Hundreds of innocents may have been killed in a theater being used as a shelter.

As opposed to in D, H, and N where civilians were just peachy fine.

Bratwurst Boy
16 Mar 2022  #5627

and Russians beat Napoleon, Hitler and showed to the West "Kuz'ma mother" during USSR.

....well....Frenchies and Austrians are much more hated for that! :)

I don't know anybody who thinks about Ukrainians.....they are just right now earning themselves an "image"....and it's a good one, a plucky and brave one.....

mafketis
16 Mar 2022  #5628

People died because they have a moron for president.

Smart thinking according to Moscow Mir: "We surrender! We _will_ collaborate!"

They died because the Russian army attacked them which is on the Russian army and Putin.

Go peddle your collaboration talk somewhere else, Moscow Mir....

And, like a coward, you still haven't answered my question: If two guys from the FBI stopped by your house and said they think what you write here isn't good for the country and maybe could you please stop.... then what would you tell them?

PolAmKrakow
16 Mar 2022  #5629

@Novichok
You are really Fing retarded. Ukraine is not USA. Both start with U but they are not the same. Go get an education. Stop comparing apples and oranges you Fing idiot.

Novichok
16 Mar 2022  #5630

Go peddle your collaboration talk somewhere else, ...

Like in Warsaw in 1939 and 1944. Those cowards...Should have fought until the last drop. But they didn't. I guess that "freedom" and "democracy" wasn't priority one. Survival was. Heroisms and deaths are for others. Like those brave, freedom-loving Ukrainians. Good advice, maf.

mafketis
16 Mar 2022  #5631

Heroisms and deaths are for others

Forget Moscow Mir, now you're Surrender Stan!

And you still haven't answered the question...

Histmag
16 Mar 2022  #5632

streamable.com/x0pbtf
Great movie

mafketis
16 Mar 2022  #5633

Surrender Stan!

or.... Surrender Stasiek! A Polish name with a despised diminutive!

Staśku! Czemu nie odpowiadasz na moje pytanie?

Bratwurst Boy
16 Mar 2022  #5634

International Court of Justice orders Russia to immediately suspend all the military operations that it started in Ukraine on Feb. 24.

Na ja....let's see if Putin listens....I doubt it......

Cojestdocholery
16 Mar 2022  #5635

He is a comedian afterall...

At least he was paid better than you but after all you are only a clown an amateur clown.
Pole you>? Standing with Russia? Don't tell anyone over in the States that you are Polish. I understand now why they have those jokes about Polaks. Doodles like you are resposible for that.

Bratwurst Boy
16 Mar 2022  #5636

Bundeswehr moves anti-aircraft missiles to NATO's eastern flank

focus.de/politik/ausland/ukraine-krieg-im-ticker-bericht-ukrainisches-militaer-zerstoert-mehrere-russische-hubschrauber-in-cherson_id_52139887.html

5:14 p.m .: The Bundeswehr has started relocating the "Patriot" anti-aircraft missile system to Slovakia. According to information from the German Press Agency, vehicles with equipment and weapon systems started moving in Husum (Schleswig-Holstein) on Wednesday. The German government wants the soldiers stationed there to help protect the NATO partner that borders Ukraine. The "Patriot" system ("Phased Array Tracking Radar to Intercept on Target") is used to combat aircraft, tactical ballistic missiles and cruise missiles.

The Slovakian parliament had voted the night before with a clear majority for the stationing of German and other NATO troops.


Doesn't really look good for Putin....

According to Ukraine, the Russian army has lost up to 40 percent of its units

......Meanwhile, the Chinese ambassador stresses that there will be no aid to Russia.


welt.de/politik/ausland/video237563847/WELT-live-Krieg-in-der-Ukraine-Sondersendung-zur-russischen-Invasion.html

If it's all true though......

pawian
16 Mar 2022  #5637

The Bundeswehr has started relocating the "Patriot" anti-aircraft missile system to Slovakia

That must be the second part of the latest NATO Ukraine deal - ex- Eastern Block countries send their ex-Soviet long and medium range air defence systems to Ukraine and receive the NATO Patriot protection. I just read today that Ukrainians received a large shipment of those ex Soviet systems they know very well. Stingers of Polish Thunders manpads are excdellent but can`t help much when RuSS-Asian savages use strategic bombers.

Wiki

Slovakia - One battery S-300PMU and 48 missiles type 5V55R inherited from Czechoslovakia. 3 missiles were fired during exercise in Bulgaria in 2015.[125]

Good! RuSS-Assian savages will lose a few planes again. ;):)


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Crow
16 Mar 2022  #5638

Watch out, the Vatican heavy brigade is on it way to Serbia if you don't give up they will use their nukes.

Vatican already committed genocide on Serbs. Wanted us dead or Catholic. Just like that. In our homes. Man, woman and children, babies. Pregnant woman. Without mercy. In most bestial ways.

Anyway, I thought we have a deal they killed enough of us. If they now try, quote likely its them who`ll get nuke.

...ruSSia.

They are relentless but they are no nazis. No. They truly moved because they were pushed to action. NATO and EU leading powers entered their world. No come back from there. My condolences to your world when Russians give a return visit to it.

Vlad1234
16 Mar 2022  #5639

But seriously, was he truly to so blind/uninformed about the Ukrainians???

I have such feeling that all this war in Ukraine is a big hoax. Putin is 70 and he doesn't look like an adventurer by character. How long he plans to live and rule yet?! And what takes place in Ukraine is a pure adventure without clear plan and sound reasons.

Novichok
16 Mar 2022  #5640

At least he was paid better than you but after all you are only a clown an amateur clown.

Another clown with nothing to say so he gets personal.

Forget Moscow Mir, now you're Surrender Stan!

I have nobody to surrender to. I am fine. I would appreciate less moaning about the dying Ukrainians, though.
They die because they choose to die. Let's call it suicide by a Russian.
They don't like dying? Tell them to send an email to Mr. Z. He will listen since Ukraine is a "democracy".

without clear plan and sound reasons.

The plan: to prevent NATO in Ukraine. The reason: to prevent NATO in Ukraine.


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