Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades

Are you bragging or asking? I'm sure you would like your German/ Slovak family.
Difference is you don't know what you are talking about but if you do that makes you a nasty b''tch.


Good point, that is what I say. I don't say that USA should send their troops in. I say that should put in place few red lines and get ready to back it up with force including nukes.

USA should do everything in its power to ensure that Russia is going to loose that war short of using nukes unless Russian use them first or use biological or chemical weapon.


Why don't you enlarge your brain, if you do you will know that that stupid propaganda doesn't work here.

@Crnogorac3

Historians will take a look at Putin's speech, see that he used the same kind of reasoning Hitler used in 1939 and come to the logical conclusion.

They will also see that NATO is not even used by Putin as justification in this very speech

If Russia was so much troubled with NATO expansion and wanted to stop that expansion at any cost it could just formally proclaim war on all the potential new member states and make some territoral claims to them without starting real military action. It seems that according to NATO rules they cannot accept any new members in the state of war.

Should seek psychiatric help. Russia troubles are not and should not be a problem for others. Paranoia is not a valid excuse for any aggresion.

Yes, it is. When Putin says "neutrality" he means to the exclusion of NATO. NATO is not "neutrality".

@Vlad1234

A very good point.
So why did Putin decide to invade?
Is it the fear of the influence Ukrainians could have on Russians and the problems this could cause him?

Only if Russia is stupid/crazy enough to attack a NATO member.

Is Putin stupid/crazy enough to attack a NATO member?

I think he is more troubled about Ukraine in EU than about Ukraine in NATO.

@Vlad1234

You may well be right because if Ukraine joined and prospered that would look vey bad in Russia.

Back to what is is. Attack - one drunk Russian soldier crosses into Latvia, attacks and kills a Latvian soldier? Does this trigger A5 or not yet?

Now, ramp that event up in numbers to the point where A5 is triggered. I will agree upfront that 1 million Russian soldiers - drunk or sober - crossing over by a foot into Latvia and shooting would be enough. So the minimum required for A5 is somewhere between 1 and 1 million. So, what is an "attack" to wake up NATO deadwood and speed dial DC? Your turn.

Isn't it funny how everything boils down to numbers?

In Russia, there is a saying - плохому танцору яйца мешают.

A crude translation would be - for a bad dancer, even the scrotum gets in the way. If Ukraine wanted to prosper it would do it in the way every other successful country has done it. That is, at least through close cooperation with a country that is its largest export partner, largest trading partner overall, largest investor, critical supplier of energy and raw materials. If it's lucky, Ukraine will hit its 2008 level of GDP in the next century. However, nationalism of the brain is a serious disease.

That redline has already been drawn by the world.
If it is crossed your only option then is to bend over and kiss your dying butt goodbye.



Actually it is your Englsish that sucks moron.
Proper Englisg says:
There is more than one apple on the table.
There are more than two apples on the table. Hahahahahaha

youtu.be/DOLfuWfMgws

Not fulfilling the Minsk II agreement by the Ukrainian puppet regime in Kiev for 8 years after they signed it while continuing the shelling of the Donbass, other than that they say that this is what made Putin finally to pull the trigger:

Discriminatory policies against Russophiles intensified in 2021, symbolized by the implementation in January of a language law requiring that all public-facing people address others in Ukrainian, speaking Russian only when asked. The media empire of Victor Medvedchuk, Putin's friend and leader of the Opposition Party - For Life, was shut down and his assets seized. He was arrested for treason and put under house arrest. Anyone who opposed these policies was deemed treasonous. A government minister announced a twenty-five-year plan with the goal was of ensuring that Russophiles and their children would learn to talk and think right. It was this constitution of Ukraine as "anti-Russia," whose soul and breath was the denial that Ukraine had ever been a part of such a despised and feared identity, that turned out to be Putin's red line.

No.

A5 is not that black and white.

A suitable response has to be agreed by members.

Putin is already on record publicly saying Russia could not beat NATO. He knows it. It would have been over by now if he tried this in Lithuania or Latvia.

More of the Iraq, Afghanistan BS arguments I see. Forget that Saddam financed terrorist attacks against the USA and started the war. Tell me again when Ukraine started something with Russia? Thats right, the Fing didn't morons. Afghanistan? Hmmmm maybe the attacks of 9/11? You are Fing useless in your arguments. Until the middle east retards started attacking the USA, we were content to let them kill each other for the most part. Its people like Putin who inspire the Iran's of the world to get nuclear arms.

@Novichok
Now its nukes that make his paranoia justified? Make up your Fing mind you mental midget. Russia has more nukes than the US.

I'm wondering about that.... I keep hearing about them trying the same tactics over and over and getting wiped out each time. It sounds like of like someone is undermining them in the field (good!). There are also ideas that destroying vast amounts of their own equipment is a strategy to hide how much has been stolen and converted into yachts...


He was troubled by the prospect of Ukraine becoming successful by leaving Russian ways behind.


Did Belarusian soldiers crossing into Polish territory, shooting around Polish border guards and demolishing Polish border reinforcements trigger it?

Stop being such a pvssy and screeching about how afraid you are.

It is not too easy. Currently World market is extremely competitive and such large country as Ukraine would need immense investments to increase level of life to the level in Germany. But in the last few decades more money left Ukraine than came in. Poland in the last 15 years received 100 billions of euros from EU funds annually, but still has long way to EU average. This is how modern capitalism works. There is no way to stop capital flight.

Here comes Yappy again.. German/ Slovak -- AMERICAN. As in my people LEFT those countries. Wonder why? German side - here since 1720s. Slovak side - here since 1920s.

BTW - Where's Auschwitz located again, Yappy? Bratislava? Nope.. and Tiso was hung by his idiotic neck.

Russian state TV is already looking for their next invasion.... guess where?

They want the "Suwałki corridor" to connect Russia to the phony Soviet enclave in Königsberg (the phony Russian name should not be used, or course).

twitter.com/BelarusInSweden/status/1506216325026361347

You tell me since you used the term "attack".


That was funny, Milo. Members as in by a committee that will convene, let's see, the first Tuesday next month. Yeah, we have an opening, right after we discuss transgenders, their civil rights and uniforms for pregnant NATO warriors.


Imagine that...An agreement would be actually observed...hahahahaha...like the promise not to expand NATO...hahahahahaha...
Come on, Vlad, they were just joking...hahahahaha...Don't be so damn literal, for Pete's sake...

One reason that we have to make sure that t hey will never have the chance.

Who is "we"?

Since everything in life is about numbers, did Mr. Z come up with the limit of how many of his citizens he is willing to see die before saying it's enough and time to fold?

I know I am dealing with Polish poets and heroes here but I hope that "until the last man" should not be treated literally. Rather, just as a stupid and meaningless feel-good line.

Warsaw - the city of brotherly love...From msn.com:
WARSAW - Just weeks after Russia invaded Ukraine, more than 300,000 refugees have sought safety in the Polish capital, a city of roughly 1.8 million.

Now, Warsaw's mayor is warning that the city is on the brink. The education system is stretched. Hospitals are bracing. Housing is becoming scarce.

Not only a genius...I could be Nostradamus 2.0. That's exactly what I predicted recently...BTW, thinking ahead has merits...It's cynical but necessary.

So are you saying that those missiles in Kaliningrad mean that Russia is planning to wipe us out from the face of the Earth?:

theguardian.com/world/2018/jun/18/kaliningrad-nuclear-bunker-russia-satellite-photos-report

"The Russian military announced in January this year that the necessary infrastructure had been built to accommodate a permanent presence of mobile Iskander-M missiles, capable of carrying conventional and nuclear warheads a range of 500km. The missiles were due to be combat ready early this year.

The US says that because of their range, the Iskanders represent a violation of the 1987 Intermediate-range Nuclear Forces treaty."


Nope.


Don't be stupid. It's obvious that such a minor incident wouldn't start a war. And anyway, nothing like this has ever happened for all those years since Poland and other "new" members joined NATO.

Phony Soviet name, call it Königsberg (or maybe Królowiec...)

BTW, I have shocking news for you do-gooders...Taking in those refugees actually prolongs the war. Unintended consequences are a bit*ch...But between feelings and logic...

How so?

Surrender Stasiek is just thrashing around looking for some way to convince people to surrender and collaborate the same way he would....

Maf can explain. He is very smart except when he writes crap like just now.


Like the Poles who collaborated with the Soviets after 1945 and were rewarded with positions, apartments, cars, and foreign trips?

I am helping refugees so that their husbands and Dads know they are safe and can fight to expel the war criminal invaders. I know you are in favor of surrender but why would Ukraine do that when they are winning.

I actually think there should be a citizen's levy on all Polish citizens outside Poland. If you want to vote here pay the levy and that can be used to support the refugees.