Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades

Putin will be gone by next Friday. They are already preparing to arrest him - like Gorbachev he will be on the way to his Dacha but without his gold cellphone

I wouldn't be surprised at all.

Because of those two cartoons, the French invited the Russian ambassador to France for talks. After that, the Russian embassy in France removed the cartoons. After all that, Maria Zakharova greeted the French on Twitter, with a post that France is a famous country of freedom, the press and the famous Charlie Hebdo... Something in that style ...😁

This shows that the Russians have no respect whatsoever for that granny screwer Macron.

'The Sun' is not the western press. It's one example of tabloid journalism. Btw, the Daily Mail that you also like quoting from is a tabloid too :)) Ever read a broadsheet??

If those cartoons were indeed posted by a Russian Embassy in France, then that is all the evidence we need that they are 100% mental mongols. :D

Q.E.D.

Mr Koneczny, you were a genius!







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How Russian TV battle-mood changed...

twitter.com/kamilkazani/status/1507819641673900037

... LOOOOL xD

Many ride Poland. But Poland seek only to ride Russia. Why is this so?

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"To leave Russia would be unimaginable from a human point of view."
With these words, the CEO of the French Auchan, Yves Claude, explains why the company will not leave the Russian market.

I don't really understand why I'm pissed off with a French bastard. All historical facts show that France is and will be an old *****.

@Histmag
I understand some people not wanting to leave because they built something, or they have emotional ties, or they do not want to abandon friends and people they know. This is when business leaders show their real capability though, and you cant straddle the fence on these things. Auchan should be boycotted in Europe and then maybe he would see where his bread is buttered.

Biden may be an idiot, maybe even criminal with his son, so was Trump, so was Hilary, and I say so what. They are all criminals. In the end though, every US criminal is still better than Putin.

Who is going do it? After all it is good enough that Ukrianie are destrying Russian army, at least for the USA.
I haven't seen any indication that USA want to step up help to Ukrianie. Like send a peace keeping force into west Ukrainie, that would free U Army to act on different fronts.

There is no promise of an American base in Poland.
Biden warned Putin against attacking Ukrianie and Putin called his bluff and nothing happened. So Biden words are not taken seriusly in Moscow.
Also what will Biden do if Russia fire a small nuke into Poland?

Poland should step up and send 600 T-72 to Ukraine, but some more modern wepons Ukrianie should pay for those, we can't do evrything for free, they paid for some German anti-tank weaponery.

At the very least USA should reimburse us to some exstend.


I don't have respect for him either, so what? He is a clown.
France is not Russia, it doesn't ,matter that much who is a president. He should call Putin once more lol! What a idiot.
If I have a parcel for Putin would you make sure he get it and opens in presonally?


Because if not for that Scumback of a country nobody would dare to ride Poland.

@Cojestdocholery
US has supported Ukraine and the US is not responsible to do it. US has given more than everyone else combined, so to say that Putin called his bluff doesn't make sense. If not for US, Ukraine would have been decimated by now. Why should the US send a peacekeeping force? Why not France and the others? I don't see anyone else rushing in. IF Putin attacks a NATO country though, you can bet that the US and everyone else goes in.

Ukraine should pay for what military equipment and with what? And why should US reimburse for Ukraine. Your thinking is twisted.

No so sure about that. Ukraine seems a bit like Trumps wall... they talk about it but don't do much. Ukraine is still waiting for lots of promised arms (not just from the US...)

Now, now, that a guy who stole countless billions and has a 700 million $ yacht is not typical fanatic wishing to die in a nuclear exchange.

@mafketis
theconversation.com/us-aid-to-ukraine-13-6-billion-approved-following-russian-bombardment-marks-sharp-increase-179172 13.6 Billion in aid so far. For a non NATO nob EU country, the US is giving Ukraine a lot. I am not minimizing what other countries are doing, but to say the US has not done enough or is responsible to do more, is simply not accurate or fair.

Those who died in Auschwitz are not. You just insulted them. No, Russians are not NAZIs. They closed down that facility and let those still alive out through the front gate rather than the chimney.


The US has not done enough to protect the US from its invasion that is more damaging than bombs. At least the Ukrainian government actually resists theirs. This pile of treasonous crap assists ours as co-conspirators.

@Novichok
You are the traitor. And not even and intelligent one at that. Your problem with Mexicans is your problem, and its been going on for nearly 70 years, so how about spreading the blame across both parties and all presidents. You continue to praise Russian soldiers for Poland yet you refuse to acknowledge the thousands of Poles killed by Russia over the 45 years they were controlling Poland. You are seriously just a scum bag who does not deserve to live freely in the US.

What does your post have to do with what I brought up in mine or are you just rambling as a kneejerk reaction to "Novichok"? If so, seek help or get a pill.

Stalin's USSR did a _lot_ to build up the German army in the 1930s (and the Soviet army would not have been so effective without strong American support).

There is a strong kind of... admiration (for lack of a better word) and/or fascination for the Nazi government can be found across lots of the former CCCP. and Putin's private army (Vagner/Wagner group) is very fond of Nazi imagery.

So.... try again?

Korwin
The Russians have a doctrine of de-escalating use of nuclear weapons. Given that they are losing (or at least unable to achieve their goals), the risk of Russia using nuclear weapons is growing rapidly. And Poland will probably be the target of such an impact. Peskov stated that Russia may use nuclear weapons against a state that does not have them if Russia's existence is threatened. The next day, Miediński, the chairman of the Russian delegation negotiating with Russia, says that the war with Ukraine threatens the existence of Russia. Well, it's enough to be able to add two and two. As for the NATO and US response, explain to me why Yesterday in Warsaw Biden did not address the issue of nuclear deterrence at all. In general, his speech, together with the lack of any serious military movements, is an incentive for Russia to escalate the conflict at the expense of Poland. This constant repetition of Article 5 without any real military move to strengthen the NATO nations bordering Russia smells like a bluff per kilometer.

Why there is no deployment of anti-missile defense systems in Poland, despite the fact that practically all aid for Ukraine passes through us. Two Patriot batteries are a joke. This may protect the airport in Rzeszów and what about the rest of the country.

The present war, even if kinetically a Russian-Ukrainian war (proxy war), is above all an element of the Russian (and Chinese) struggle to overthrow the world order and the US economic, political and military hegemony. Lavrov directly says that Russia is not fighting but with the US for a new order in Europe. Or Medvedev's speech. One in which he said that the goal of the war is an international order that is beneficial for Russia, based on multipolarity, and the other one about the alliance of China, Russia and India.

I see no reason why we should put ourselves at greater risk in defending the US primacy than America itself. Of course, the current security order in Europe is very beneficial for us.

For countries that the USA treats seriously as its allies, instead of words of support and empty texts about democracy, the Americans have modern THAAD missile defense systems stationed, for example, in South Korea, Taiwan, Japan or Israel.

On a global scale, it should also be noted the attack on the dollar by Russia (demanding payments for gas and oil in rubles) and China (there are talks about settlements for oil in yuan with Saudi Arabia.)

The US is clearly losing its position.
Mohammed Bin Salman, who actually rules Saudi Arabia, doesn't even want to answer Biden's phone. Without the help of OPEC, it is impossible to replace Russian oil. Even if European countries move away from Russian oil, someone else, such as India or China, will still buy it.or us. But it is obvious that we do not have the strength to defend it ourselves.

@Novichok
Your vague references to "The US has not done enough to protect the US from its invasion that is more damaging than bombs." Looks like nothing more than a "build the wall" comment. Your constant comments about Russia liberating Poland fail to recognize that if not for the US liberating the rest of Europe and supplying Russia with arms and supplies, that Russia wouldn't have done $hi*. They barely survived the Nazi F up of trying to invade Russia, and were greatly assisted by the Russian winter in that victory of self defense.

You and your thoughts are repulsive to anyone with an education. Not only are they based on flawed flawed thinking, but a completely misguided sense of being grateful to Russians who allegedly helped you. Instead of being grateful to the country that currently protects you and affords you the life that you have. If any immigration needs to be stopped it is of people like you.

What do you mean? You are like a cheerleader for the USA. Cut the crap! the US supported Ukraine? So has the uk, so has Poland or Sweden.

As to send more weapons in there? Nah you must be dreaming, other countries contribiuted a lot. If you consider each country potentcial - USA hardly done that much.

Yes, you have satelites, so you feed them data. Yes that is a great contribution but USA seems to think that is enough!
If Poland would have nukes we wouldn't be waiting for the USA. What is with you Yanks? You grabed at the chance to become the world empire kicking Britis to the side in 1945 but you seems to think you can walk away from it if you feel like it,

That you can do it halfheartedly with impunity. 30 years of your total domination has ended you need to work for it now. There is nothing for free that pertain to you too.


Because the USA have money and Poland took refugees and it will impact our economy as well we need to step up with our army. You are not affected, and you will profit from it, more gas and oil sold from the USA, farmer will step up their food production, arms deals with go up and so on.

Why the hell Poland would be in the NATO and be a front country to keep secure USA interst at this end and at the same time pay for the privilage? You need to pump Poland econmically for your own interest. The first step would be a help to help Ukraine with their war efford.


Nope your thinking is cheap. There is a chance to knock out Russia from the competition once and for all. You should do it rather than play save like a smart ass Johnny. You are not! You should do it before China start supporting Russia. That Biden shot at them was stupid.

It seems to be like the USA government is happy they can do nothing and play hero! They are missing their window of opprotunity. It will bite you in the ass.

there already Russia going to India meaking deals, Saudi Arabia talk to them, a lot is going on, you should be on the top on things but on the surfrice it seems like the USA is just happy, NATO consolided good for us, Germany stopped poloting to get us out of Europr - good for us, Russia us getting it ass whooped - good for us, here some intel, here some ammo give them hell Ukries.

You are too arogant!


What if he doesn't? What if 'only' nukes Rzeszów? Not a big nuke but big enough. What will Biden do? He talks the talk, but Putin might think it just a talk given Biden record of saying things and - nothing happening.

At the very lest Poland should be given a nuke - that would mean that the USA means what it says!

This 13.6 Billion you are talking about is only a promise not a fact on the ground.

@Novichok

Russians closed down Auschwitz because they weren't nazis in 1945. They were fighting against nazis back then. These days they turned into what they have been fighting. That's why Hitler is rolling in his grave laughing.

In one respect though, I agree with you - Russia is not the only (and not even the worst) culprit in this war. They have been masterfully manipulated into the role by those who, in the long run, according to their strategical calculations, will benefit from WW3. Russia's fault is that they allowed themselves to be so easily manipulated, like a bunch of retarded kids, and fell for the idiotic dream of conquest and rebuilding "Russkiy Mir". Now not only ordinary people, who have the brains and resources to do so, but even their elites (see Chubays, for example) are fleeing the country. Tough sh*t.

Yes, they are the nazis now, killing civilians in Mariupol and razing it to the ground - city that before the war had Russian ethnic majority, and 89.53% of people declared Russian as their native language. They are erasing the most pro-Russian city in Ukraine from the map. Idiots...


Poland should acquire her own atomic weapons, and I have been saying that for years now.

It repelled Russian invaders in 2014, that's why they're destroying it now...

Nuclear attack on a NATO country? That would be the much needed (not by Poland, of course) pretext for WW3 that, apparently, is what powers-that-be want and what they have been working hard to achieve. It will most likely mean a complete and utter disaster for Poland as a front-line country, but at this point I no longer give a f*ck. If the nukes fly, the nukes fly. Death is better than living in constant threat - being threatened by mongols with their nukes, by their "mighty" army, by their rockets in Królewiec, by their "Russkiy Mir", by arseholes like Dugin or Zhirinovsky who refuse Poland the very right to existence etc. etc. Quick death is better than tolerating it. I've f*cking had it. Let the nukes fly. Bring it on, mongol b*tches, and see you in hell.

@Cojestdocholery
Did I say other countries haven't contributed? Again another person with zero reading comprehension. You have a twisted idea of what the US is and should do. The US is not the worlds police force. The rest of the world needs to take an equal responsibility for what happens. Period. The US is delivering money, food and arms.

What else are we supposed to do? Send more US soldiers to Ukraine? There are 10's of thousands waiting in Europe to go in if it happens, and yes, if Putin used any aggression in Poland, they would go in. The sentiment to get rid of Russia once and for all in the USA has never been higher. With the exception of retards and Neo Nazi's everyone believes now is the time to strangle Russia.

I live in Poland and travel to the US every 6 weeks or so. I am there now. I get a real perspective of both countries, not some spoon fed BS from the press. Should Poland have nukes? Yes. 100%. Should the US provide it? No. Poland should have been working on its own technology for the last 30 years.

The US has money? I dont think so. Roads are crumbling in the US. Bridges collapse and kill people regularly. Poland's roads are far better than USA. USA needs to spend money on its own people as well. Europe should stop Fing around with arguing over legalities and should start supporting each other and build her own multinational army. Allies, does not mean one country always has to lead or bear the bulk of responsibility.

Yes, that is the most amazing paradox in the aggression - RuSS savages inflict greatest losses on people who used to cherish warm feelings about Russia. Now they are learning the horrible truth about the RuSS Order - it means death, hunger, devastation. I believe most of them have already given up their old opinions.

Exactly. If Pakistan can have their own nukes, then why not Poland? People who neglected acquiring/building Polish nuclear weapons and who still refuse to do it now should be tried for treason.


Yes, that's true. We are talking, however, about a country that would like to remain the main world superpower, and frankly we are not seeing it on the ground, as Cojestdocholery said. Even the cowardly refusal of passing Polish MiG-29s from an American base showed that.


Yes, that's the most important thing now. Who knows? Maybe the US will concentrate on their roads and bridges? And meanwhile other superpowers will take over ruling the world. Maybe (just maybe) they will even allow you to decide how many roads and bridges you can have. Good thinking.


The point is, they don't care about people hating them. They don't care about people suffering. Why have they been spreading threats and violence for so many years? Why were people like Dugin or Zhirinovsky, who refused countries between Russia and Germany the right to their very existence and constantly threatened them with nukes or/and invasion, listened to and cherished in Mordor?

F*ck it. I've had it. Let the nukes fly.

@GefreiterKania
Again, you have no idea what the US is like. Roads and bridges were just one example. The US is not what holywood shows the people of Poland and what most Poles think the US is like. The Polish view of the US is not even close to reality.

Polish migs could have simply been provided by Poland when Ukraine pilots were in Poland. But no, Poland wanted the US to take responsibility for the action so Poland wouldnt be attacked and the US and Germany would be at risk. Stop the BS, and just give the plane to Ukraine. Why waste time and use the US as a middle man. This was a Fing publicity stunt played by Poland to try to pressure the US when Poland was too afraid to act. Give the planes up and then tell the US you need planes to replace them and I bet you have new planes in a matter of days.

What you see on the ground? You obviously dont live anywhere near Gdansk or Krakow. There is US Army and Marines everywhere. The US presence has never been greater, and it continues to grow.

Because Russia may not like it just as the US didn't like nukes in Saddam's hands. Yeah, that damn whataboutism...
It's one thing for Russia to deal with a very big dog. It's another with a yapping poodle that can start sh*it and then drag the very big dog into the mess.


To defend itself from other superpowers - not to assist a variety of poodles with the money that superpower has to borrow or steal to see another day.

That's exactly what we would have done, if we had nukes. Unfortunately, we don't, so we are not going to expose ourselves to a limited nuclear attack while the US is refusing to act.

By the way - not a single Patriot battery that Poland ordered and paid for has been delivered yet. Not a single Patriot battery was send to Poland to protect Warsaw (or other main cities). Two batteries, however, were deployed to protect your troops in Poland.


Oh, right. Like the Patriot batteries that we bought? Also, it was mentioned that passing planes to Poland, from the US reserve forces for example, wouldn't be so simple, so we were told directly that we wouldn't get any replacement for those MiGs. And still we were willing to pass them to Ukraine, but for safety reasons, not on our own but through a brave world nuclear superpower. The brave world nuclear superpower, however, refused.


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Who gives a toss? The fact that you suck so hard on Russian balls doesn't mean that everyone is willing to do so.

Germans want to buy Israeli Iron Dome to protect themselves from rockets...

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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_Dome

... great idea! Poland should do the same. Who knows, maybe Israel will actually deliver the batteries that are f*cking bought and paid for.