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Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades



Paulina
1 Apr 2022  #7201

In fact, according to that site Russia has more nuclear warheads than the US, France and the UK combined!

Crnogorac3
2 Apr 2022  #7202

In the present day world you can not be independent without enough nuclear warheads, that's the reality of global geopolitics.

As everyone can see, this is today's power distribution among countries, it explains it all. It explains why the US doesn't give a $hit about China, why it is not afraid of China (which has a much stronger economy and much bigger population than Russia) and why it is afraid of Russia..... The reason there is panic and fear in London and Washington is that Russia is the only power that can bring into question the very existence of the UK and USA.

youtu.be/DNfn17y7iNo

BTW one of these can wipe out the whole of London while Russia has thousands of Sarmats.....

johnny reb
2 Apr 2022  #7203

Hundreds of Russian troops are refusing to invade Ukraine and instead are suing the Russian government.

msn.com/en-us/news/world/hundreds-of-russian-troops-are-refusing-to-invade-ukraine/vi-AAVLa8z?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=835561256904439cb9ab2a308f34fa10

Bobko
2 Apr 2022  #7204

Ruble has all but returned to pre-invasion levels. Here's a little Bloomberg snapshot for all the specialists:


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Novichok
2 Apr 2022  #7205

In fact, according to that site Russia has more nuclear warheads than the US, France and the UK combined!

I see you can count better than you can think. Only total idiots would corner a "paranoid" guy with these many nukes after the "paranoid" guy tells them that he would use them. This is the moment to trust the "paranoid" guy.

Iraq was hostile to the US, Pakistan isn't.

Saddam was our dearest friend when he was killing Iranians and the US supported him with intelligence - whatever that means when the US is involved.

Pakistan was a host to very bad guys. Remember Osama?

Rusty junk made out of discarded sprat cans and in any case not much use

youtu.be/l_pcl-OFHPo

Doesn't look rusty to me but what do I know about fighter planes...

Now, Polish planes, on the other hand,...

Novichok
2 Apr 2022  #7206

Beauty and the voice of reason...
youtu.be/rkacr7g86BY

Plus a comment:

US and NATO have broken the Minsk Agreement on Russia's doorstep with Ukraine's help. They forced Russia's reaction. Ukraine brought this on themselves.

To the "I don't read this kind of stuff" blockheads...All the comments, universally, are in her favor. So, if playing a stupid blockhead is your cup, you are alone.

johnny reb
2 Apr 2022  #7207

The U.S. will soon help allies move Soviet-made tanks to Ukraine in an effort to assist the country in protecting its Donbas region.
These tanks will give Ukraine a longer range of hitting targets.
Switch Blade drone ordinance would be the real ticket for Ukraine.
They could really raise some hell against their enemy with that kind of fire power..

PolAmKrakow
2 Apr 2022  #7208

@Bobko
Yes, and we all know how it is being done. Artificial manipulation. Even so, try to buy something with the ruble and see what happens. It is only a matter of time until Russia completely fails in Ukraine, thats it, just time.

GefreiterKania
2 Apr 2022  #7209

New map published by NEXTA...

NEXTA map

... interestingly, only Ukrainian cities are shown on the map, with one notable exception: Przemyśl. I know that there are certain circles in Ukraine who would like to liberate "Перемишль" and the entire "Zakerzonia" (including Przemyśl, Jarosław and Chełm)...

Zakerzonia

Poland - Ukraine, rugby

... but maybe (just maybe) they should wait with realising their ambitions until they actually win the war against Russia.

The banderist flags and "Zakerzonia" banner were displayed during Poland-Ukraine rugby game, on the 9th Ocotber, in Lwów. Please notice also the insignia of Ukrainian 14th SS Grenadier Division on that banner. Isn't karma a bit of a b*tch sometimes?

No, I am not supporting Russian invasion of Ukraine, as you can see from my numerous posts here, but the arseholes in the photos above deserve everything that's coming to them. I still fully support Ukraine, but NEXTA should be rather careful with the maps they post or some people in Poland might shift ever so slightly towards a more neutral position. :-/

P.S. Poland won the rugby game 27-24.

Alien
2 Apr 2022  #7210

@GefreiterKania
Azov Batallion.. but they are probably all dead now.

Pinching Pete
2 Apr 2022  #7211

US and NATO have broken the Minsk Agreement on Russia's doorstep with Ukraine's help. They forced Russia's reaction.

Ehh, didn't force it.. provoked it quite a bit though.

GefreiterKania
2 Apr 2022  #7212

I'm guessing it's shown because it's very near the border

Well, I bet there are towns near the border in Slovakia, Hungary, Romania, Belarus and Moldova too, but they aren't shown on the map - only Ukrainian cities and Przemyśl. Suspicious.

after seeing what some of our football hools are displaying during matches

It's been at least 20 years since I saw any nazi symbols during football games in Poland, and even back then it was extremely rare.

Paulina
2 Apr 2022  #7213

but they aren't shown on the map - only Ukrainian cities and Przemyśl. Suspicious.

;D
Sorry, GK, but I don't see anything suspicious about it lol I think you're a bit paranoid - you're reading too much into it :P Przemyśl gained kind of international fame because of the stream of refugees pouring into it and it's very near the border, so I'm guessing it's shown for comparison.

The Institute for the Study of War (the source of the map) is an American think tank and Nexta is Belarusian, so, again I'm asking you - what does it have to do with Ukrainians?

It's been at least 20 years since I saw any nazi symbols during football games in Poland, and even back then it was extremely rare.

I wouldn't be surprised considering that displaying such symbols publicly is against the law in Poland. But check this out:

bip.brpo.gov.pl/pl/content/policja-krzyz-celtycki-prawny-symbol-nop-dochodzenie-ws-marszu-pamieci-zolnierzy-wykletych-umorzone

During the march they were yelling stuff in support of Romuald Rajs aka "Bury", whose unit was responsible for the death of tens of Orthodox people, including women and children. He also ordered the killing of Lithuanian prisoners of war.

lodz.wyborcza.pl/lodz/7,35136,21204057,krzyze-celtyckie-od-kibica-lks-minister-to-propagowanie-sportu.html

And an older article:

dziennikpolski24.pl/symbole-zakazane/ar/3255400

GefreiterKania
2 Apr 2022  #7214

I think you're a bit paranoid

It's called being Polish. ;)

check this out

Oh, yeah - NOP. They're special... very special. *rolls eyes*

mafketis
2 Apr 2022  #7215

Something new for the Putin fan club to not criticize.... (graphic)

twitter.com/eskelinen_antti/status/1510023679912349696

Why does Russia deserve respect again?

Atch
2 Apr 2022  #7216

"I don't read this kind of stuff" blockheads...All the comments, universally, are in her favor.

If I were the type to ROFL, I'd be doing it now.

Beauty and the voice of reason...

Well, we certainly can't deny her the fact that she achieved semi-finalist in the 2013 Hometown Hotties Competition somewhere in the mid-west of the USA. And her years as a video jockey for Concert TV plus her experience at Austin Fashion Week (whatever that may be) are all impressive. Many would certainly turn to her in times of international crisis to seek insight and understanding. But the clincher for me is that she was co-host and guest presenter for a whole week on some radio show called Loveline advising callers about their love lives.

Btw for those who are worried, according to Wiki something-or-other, "details regarding her actual height and other body measurements are currently not publicly available. We are keeping tabs and will update this information once it is out."

That's certainly a relief in this time of crisis.

Paulina
2 Apr 2022  #7217

Beauty and the voice of reason...

OK, so I've watched that video - she sounds intelligent, actually, and she made a fair point that the world isn't just Europe, but she's just repeating what you can find out from reading articles on the internet, so it isn't anything groundbreaking, shocking and revealing (maybe for Americans it is?). I disagree with her claim that the West somehow pushed Russia towards China though. Russia has been anti-Western and especially anti-American for years and China has been Russia's natural ally for years also due to shared communist history, their anti-Western stance and both being authoritarian regimes. India and Israel, besides doing business with Russia and having some common interests, have also right-wing governments.

I also don't agree with her that sanctions will hurt the US more than Russia. I doubt it's possible to say that at this point - it's too early for that. At the same time I don't share the hurra-optimism of PF guys on this matter - that Russia is at the brink if a disaster already and that there's going to be a coup d'etat in Russia in a minute lol It probably will take some months before Russians will feel the real pain due to sanctions and it depends whether countries will keep those sanctions in place, etc.

I don't think the purpose of sanctions is somehow to completely kill the Russian economy or sth. I think that the most important thing right now is to make continuing the war for Russia as costly as possible in all kinds of ways, so Russia would stop the invasion and withdraw.

Something new for the Putin fan club to not criticize.... (graphic)

twitter

What is it? I'm not registered on Twitter and I can't view it...

PolAmKrakow
2 Apr 2022  #7218

twitter

This is exactly why no mercy should be shown to Russians. None.

mafketis
2 Apr 2022  #7219

What is it?

Bunch of dead civilians in Bucha lying on the ground, one with hands tied behind his back...

Paulina
2 Apr 2022  #7220

Saddam was our dearest friend

Until he invaded and annexed Kuwait (Gulf War).

Pakistan was a host to very bad guys. Remember Osama?

But Pakistan has nukes :) Russia has nukes too. Russia has many more nukes than Pakistan :)) And since the US doesn't invade countries with nukes, you can calm down now - the US or NATO won't invade Russia.

Bunch of dead civilians in Bucha lying on the ground, one with hands tied behind his back...

Thanks for the info, maf...
:(((

PolAmKrakow
2 Apr 2022  #7221

@Paulina
Russia is mining homes, streets and dead bodies on their way out of town. This is nothing but a bunch of criminals. No mercy should be shown. Any on Ukraine territory should just be eliminated.

Paulina
2 Apr 2022  #7222

@PolAmKrakow, if that's true then that's a Taliban-like tactic...

theguardian.com/world/2010/jul/25/ieds-improvised-explosive-device-deaths

No morality whatsoever, f*cking bastards...

Atch
2 Apr 2022  #7223

she sounds intelligent,

But not well educated, especially on the topics she's discussing.

she's just repeating what you can find out from reading articles

And you'll find that in nine cases of ten, she hasn't even read many of those. There is a tradition in American broadcasting of presenters whose 'knowledge' is gleaned from a sheet of notes presented to them by their researchers an hour before the show airs. She's not actually a proper journalist. She's not an academic. She's never visited any of the regions she's discussing. Quite possibly never even set foot in Europe. She's just a presenter delivering a prepared script . Her level is the debating club in college where she had to talk on a topic that she knew nothing about and present an argument for or against. That's why she's not worth listening to. I might as well stop a random person and the street and ask for their analysis.

In contrast, yesterday I read an article about what the use of conscripts by Putin tells us. It was authored by a PhD candidate at MIT Political Science in security studies and comparative politics and a Fellow of the Center for Strategic and Budgetary Assessments. I would be more inclined to listen to their analysis

Crow
2 Apr 2022  #7224

We face global crisis and we Slavs urgently need Slavic World congress.

In fact, according to that site Russia has more nuclear warheads than the US, France and the UK combined!

Say thank God to that. If mad NATO is stronger in nukes we all would be burned already.

mafketis
2 Apr 2022  #7225

Slavs urgently need Slavic World congress.

To condemn Russian nazi aggression against the Slavs of Ukraine!

Crow
2 Apr 2022  #7226

Your opinion is taken in account. Thanks.

Next please.

Paulina
2 Apr 2022  #7227

If Russians supposedly captured Mariupol then why won't they let civillians evacuate from the city?:

abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/russians-leave-chernobyl-ukraine-braces-renewed-attacks-83802867

"On Friday, the International Committee for the Red Cross said it was unable to carry out an operation to bring civilians out of Mariupol by bus. It said a team had been on its way but had to turn back."

"We are running out of adjectives to describe the horrors that residents in Mariupol have suffered," Red Cross spokesperson Ewan Watson said.

On Thursday, Russian forces blocked a 45-bus convoy attempting to evacuate people from Mariupol and seized 14 tons of food and medical supplies bound for the city, Ukrainian authorities said."

mafketis
2 Apr 2022  #7228

Next please.

My next idea is that Serbia should be not allowed to attend any kind of Slavic congress because its interests are in opposition to those of the true Slavs....

johnny reb
2 Apr 2022  #7229

Russian forces blocked a 45-bus convoy attempting to evacuate people from Mariupol and seized 14 tons of food and medical supplies bound for the city,

This is why the E.U. should put a peace keeping force into Ukraine so these people have safe passage out.

johnny reb
2 Apr 2022  #7230

On Thursday, Russian forces blocked a 45-bus convoy attempting to evacuate people from Mariupol

The evacuation convoy started out again today. (johnny says prayer for their safety)
Meantime the Department of Defense announced the U.S. will provide Ukraine with $300 million of additional security assistance.
The money is aimed to bolster Ukraine's defenses against Russia.
This package includes tactical secure communications systems, a counter-unmanned aerial system, non-standard machine guns and other defense systems.


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