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Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades



Ziemowit
5 Apr 2022  #7561

They are insulted, abused and humiliated. Some of them can be seen naked and beaten up.

The first question will always be: why are the Russian army on Ukrainian soil at all?

Joker
5 Apr 2022  #7562

promised state-of-the-art weapons came t

The Biden admin is slow walking everything, its like they want Vlad to win.

Has anyone heard Biden use the word "victory" or "winning" regarding the Ukraine yet?

How stupid does Russia look now for selling Alaska?

Its like a free gift that keeps giving and giving.

Novichok
5 Apr 2022  #7563

Russian forces

"Russian forces" is meaningless bs without any forensic value. You can't indict "Russian forces". You can indict and prosecute individuals. The ultimate in this kind of bs is "Putin war crimes" both Biden and Z push on the gullible. If that's the legal standard, I can claim that Biden is a murderer because he deliberately and with premeditation keeps our borders open and, thus, aids and abets the illegal Latino criminals who murder and rape.

Did you know that wars are hell? And that Mr. Z could have prevented this one just as easily as Mr. P? You see, darling, I noticed that when one side stops shooting, the other side usually does the same. Amazing how it works. See Warsaw in September 1939.

BTW, how do you like that Novichok equation? I mean Z-P=0. That's why they fight and die - for a fu*cking zero. Visit Crimea if you are not convinced.

To visualize the Western pile of mental diarrhea and the insults of someone else's intelligence:

You forgot to include that enormous brick the US would sh*it if that map was real. They brought the world to the brink in 1962 and didn't care how many little girls clutching teddy bears would die if the Soviets ignored the warning.

Hey, Atch, what's worse, a bullet or napalm?

why are the Russian army on Ukrainian soil at all?

They are there because P doesn't like Z and the effects of that "revolution" in 2014.

Strzelec35
5 Apr 2022  #7564

from niggas in space guys:

"Think about how much fuss is being made about 7 bodies, and America used to vaporise whole weddings in Afghanistan.

Israel blows up around a dozen palestinians every Purim as some sort of weird celebration or blood offering, and we are never even told about it in the west."

Novichok
5 Apr 2022  #7565

Denmark is to expel 15 Russian 'diplomats'.

And now Italy has expelled 30 Russian 'diplomats'.

Wow! Shocking! Neither knew they were spies - until now. Mommie, Mommie, these mean Russians are spies! Boohoo!
No sh*it, sweetie...

Atch
5 Apr 2022  #7566

"Russian forces" is meaningless

Not the issue. The issue is that you said the word Russian wasn't used by HRW - and it was.

Did you know that wars are hell?

Did you know that wars, under the terms of the Geneva Convention, of which Russia is a signatory, involve responsibilities of combatants on both sides to create safe zones for civilians, allow them to evacuate and not to target civilians deliberately?

Mr. Z could have prevented this one j

Speculation. Doesn't stand up in court. Remember what I told you. You are required to give your evidence without comment or opinion. 'Coulda, woulda, shoulda' is not a legal concept.

As for your laughable assertion about the shooting stopping in Warsaw in World War II ............ only a fool or a liar, or both, would make such a statement.

mafketis
5 Apr 2022  #7567

Z-P=0. That's why they fight and die - for a fu*cking zero.

Not true at all...

Again, Galeeve lays it all out...

"Donbass is a part of Ukraine that was misfortunate enough to fall under the Russian rule"

"In Donbass Kremlin's agents rule freely without any procedural constraints, including even the Russian law. And what society did they build there? Well, a hypermilitarised kleptocracy."

" fully militarised statist society. There's almost no private sector. Locals must either work for government enterprises (for food) or serve in Donbass army (for better wage). You have no choice but to toil for pro-Russian warlords or to shed your blood for them"

"There's no law in Donbass, people have no protection against the arbitrary rule of pro-Russian warlords"

So Z(elensky) = increasing westernization, increasing prosperity, more civil liberties and a possible even better future

P(utin) = rule by violent thugs who steal and brutalize at will with no possibility of change or improvement

Which would you choose to live in? (and no, you wouldn't get to be one of the warlords)

Bratwurst Boy
5 Apr 2022  #7568

Yandex Food

data leak by a delivery service exposes addresses and employees of Putin's secret services - and his daughter's apartment


stern.de/digital/online/datenleck-eines-lieferdienstes-enttarnt-adressen-und-mitarbeiter-von-putins-geheimdiensten-31756012.html

Maybe that's the promised monster-leak of these hackers???

Cross-references betray spies

They managed to do this by comparing the data set of 58,000 addresses, telephone numbers, email addresses and names with secret service data known from other leaks, such as the addresses and names of employees. Deliveries were quickly found that went to the Russian foreign secret service GRU or the domestic secret service FSB .

For example, they searched for a phone number that was linked to the poisoning of opposition leader Alexei Navalny. The person had been in contact with the agents twice, once shortly before the poisoning, once the next morning. Thanks to the Yandex data, they were able to assign not only a name to the number. The person had also created their account from their work email address - and was now clearly identified as an FSB employee. .....


Or this:

Hidden military locations

Secret service and military locations that have not been publicly known as such are almost even more exciting. According to "Bellingcat", when analyzing orders to the FSB headquarters, the delivery details revealed that it was a military facility and that the couriers needed special instructions accordingly. For example, they should announce in advance when they are at barriers or follow sometimes complicated directions to entrances that are difficult to see.

By searching the database specifically for the keyword " military ", the journalists found several dozen such addresses. Including some that were not previously known as locations of the secret services. .....


The original:

bellingcat.com/news/rest-of-world/2022/04/01/food-delivery-leak-unmasks-russian-security-agents/

Food Delivery Leak Unmasks Russian Security Agents


Ziemowit
5 Apr 2022  #7569

So Z(elensky) = increasing westernization, increasing prosperity, more civil liberties and a possible even better future

That's what Putin fears the most. It can pose a real danger to Russia and its ineffective system of government.

Which would you choose to live in? (and no, you wouldn't get to be one of the warlords)

It is funny, but all the morons who support Putin and Russia on this site choose to live in the so-called "rotten" West (the latter term having been frequently used in the language of commie propaganda once) and have never contemplated moving to Russia to be nearer their beloved Putin.

mafketis
5 Apr 2022  #7570

all the morons who support Putin and Russia on this site choose to live in the so-called "rotten" West

Putin's rabid dog propagandais Solovev (who recently called on the Russian army to kill as many (civilian?) Ukrainians as possible is most upset about the loss of his villas on Lake Como....

Novichok
5 Apr 2022  #7571

allow them to evacuate and not to target civilians deliberately?

Yes, professor, and did you know that it's not nice to sin and that Western "democracies" have that cute "collateral damage' phrase always handy when asked about dead little girls clutching little bears where the "democratic" bombs tend to fall down from 30,000 feet and occasionally miss their targets?

Not true at all...

That's not what I was told when I visited Crimea a year ago and asked what has changed since that horrific war in 2014. They asked "what war" and told me that the only change was passports - Russian instead of Ukrainian. And money, of course.

I lived under "the Soviet occupation" - presumably a lot worse than the Russian occupation in Crimea. We talked about everything but not about that terrible "Soviet occupation". Except for sh*itty paychecks and empty shelves in meat stores, life was good and nobody was planning a revolution.

Z minus P is really zero. Poor suckers are dying for the "principle" and for Mr. Z who likes his job - even more so now that he became the darling of Western swamps and the naive PF followers.

but all the morons who support Putin

No, moron, an objective observer does not need to live with those he comments about.

"There's no law in Donbass, people have no protection against the arbitrary rule of pro-Russian warlords"

Never heard of pro-Russian warlords in Crimea or any place where Russia is in control. Donbass has been a war zone for years. Might just as well cite Somalia.

Please don't use Heaven as a reference. Chicago or Baltimore will do fine.

Atch
5 Apr 2022  #7572

the only change was passports - Russian instead of Ukrainian. And money, of course.

Another trip to Human Rights Watch for you ...... and maybe Amnesty International while you're at it. Once again, why do you bother telling the same old lies all the time? You even sound bored with them yourself.

mafketis
5 Apr 2022  #7573

what I was told when I visited Crimea a year ago



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Novichok
5 Apr 2022  #7574

A true loving leader would consider the suffering the "Mongols" would very likely inflict upon his people. If you, Russia haters, know how bad they can be, so does Mr. Z. Yet, to keep his job and to stay a hero he stays the course and doesn't give a fu*ck about how many will die and the damage - except for that sad and "shocked" face at photo ops.

Maf, take it easy...I can use metaphors just as the rest of you do it so often and with such passion.

Another trip to Human Rights Watch for you ..

OK, let's see who the founders were...Robert L. Bernstein, Aryeh Neier, Jeri Laber
That's all I need to know to guess how objective and honest that place is. Did they get any money from that world-class financier Madoff?

mafketis
5 Apr 2022  #7575

A true loving leader would consider the suffering the "Mongols" would very likely inflict upon his people

Exactly! That's why Ukraine is fighting so hard, they that nothing remotely good can come of Russian rule....

amiga500
5 Apr 2022  #7576

That's not what I was told when I visited Crimea a year ago

ahhahaha , no one on this site believes your lies. You were not in poland a year ago, much less crimea. ofr pull up your posting history from that time to prove it. you are a bald faced, pathetic lying troll.

Novichok
5 Apr 2022  #7577

That's why Ukraine is fighting so hard,

No, Ukraine is not fighting. Ukraine is not a person although it could be a girl's name. Hi, Ukraine, can I see your puppy?

It's the idiots aka heroes that bought Western lies who do. And, of course, the soldiers who have no choice. I really feel sorry for those guys.

no one on this site believes your lies.

Keep up. I already said it was a Polish-style metaphor PF posters are so proud of. So now it's my turn. Hahahahahahahaha...

mafketis
5 Apr 2022  #7578

Ukraine is not fighting.

Ukrainians are fighting because they don't want to end up like you - a Russian slave.

Novichok
5 Apr 2022  #7579

OK, let's assume that Z was persuaded to leave, Russians take the whole Ukraine and install Russia-friendly guys as "government". Now what...
Name the top five, most horrific outcomes for the lower 90% of Ukrainians - the guys who are doing the dying with their families gone and the towns in ruins.

Go. I am waiting...

mafketis
5 Apr 2022  #7580

Russians take the whole Ukraine and install Russia-friendly guys as "government". Now what...

Genocide, basically...

twitter.com/W_Kononczuk/status/1510923871641387014

Crnogorac3
5 Apr 2022  #7581

The first question will always be: why are the Russian army on Ukrainian soil at all?

This is a great, excellent clip, as this fine character explains the background of everything, this is a must watch i.e. listen. The character is a neutral South American, by the way, fascinating details of events in Ukraine and the real background of everything:

youtu.be/TzR---YDDIQ

What else can I tell you, as far as the witch Nuland is concerned, she has no children, so that explains why there is so much hatred in her, her husband Robert Kagan is also an influential Zionist Jew, etc., etc. There were no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. They made that up. But I don't need to repeat that to you. It's like Epstein didn't kill himself, the sky is blue, the grass is green. That's enough from me. You clearer thinking people and with totally unwashed brains have already known most of these things, but it is definitely a recommendation to listen, always learn something new.

Crow
5 Apr 2022  #7582

I heard that accursed and germanized Baltic states deluded by nazi ideology increasing pressure on local Russians. They want to close borders with Russia and Belarus.

Atch
5 Apr 2022  #7583

That's all I need to know to guess how objective and honest that place is.

"Ukraine should ensure an effective investigation into alleged abuse by Ukrainian fighters of Russian prisoners of war (POWs), Human Rights Watch said today. If confirmed, the beating and shooting of captured combatants in their legs would constitute a war crime, and Ukraine needs to demonstrate that it is able and willing to prevent and punish serious violations of international humanitarian law."

You can read the whole thing here, but then, why would you when you've already concluded that they are liars:

hrw.org/news/2022/03/31/ukraine-apparent-pow-abuse-would-be-war-crime

Ukraine is not fighting. Ukraine is not a person

But it is. That's one of the definitions of statehood. A state is legally defined as a person.

Novichok
5 Apr 2022  #7584

A state is legally defined as a person.

If that's the case, Germany should be thrown into Spandau. It was not. Instead, Germany was rewarded with the Marshal Plan.

her husband Robert Kagan is also an influential Zionist Jew, etc., etc.

... and, like the rest of them, never steal, lie, and hate communism. And I am 20 and pregnant.

@mafketis
How about some numbers and who...
BTW, I asked for 5 bad things that would happen to the lower 90%. Is this the best you got? Genocide, basically...whatever that means.
You are getting lazy, maf.

Tacitus
5 Apr 2022  #7585

@Novichok

Are you really now pretending that countries are not existing as legal entities?

Germany should be thrown into Spandau

So you now ignore the occupation, partition and payment of reparation that followed?

Novichok
5 Apr 2022  #7586

Let me help you, Russia haters, any you maf. Yegor gets up, takes a leak, eats breakfast, shaves, takes a shower, and goes to work...You get the drift...That was, say, a year ago in Kyiv.

Now, imagine Ukraine under Russian "occupation" the way Belarus is. What would Yegor do...Hmm...Yegor would get up, take a leak, eat breakfast, shave, take a shower, and go to work - something 3 billion people do every day.

Now this question for maf: Why would Russians or their Ukrainian buddies want to genocide Yegor?

AntV
5 Apr 2022  #7587

Germany should be thrown into Spandau. It was not. Instead, Germany was rewarded with the Marshal Plan.

But, Germany was given the shaft at Versailles.

That's my biggest concern about wanting to completely ostracize Russia: a replay of post WWI and what monster will be created by ostracizing Russia? A Rus-Sino hydra? A cornered radioactive starving rat looking to survive any way it can?

Novichok
5 Apr 2022  #7588

a replay of post WWI and what monster will be created

I am really proud of you for bringing this up. Unintended consequences are a bi*tch but, according to the touchy-feely geniuses here, WW3 later would be worth it if it can stop little Ukrainian girls from crying NOW. It's so hard to see it...

Such is the mentality of the feel-good now, fu*ck what is coming morons.

mafketis
5 Apr 2022  #7589

what monster will be created by ostracizing Russia

Worse than the monster that already exists? Wanting to wipe out the entire country of Ukraine? Wanting to invade western Europe as well (they've been very open about that).

Novichok
5 Apr 2022  #7590

Wanting to wipe out the entire country of Ukraine?

Maf, your mind is deteriorating...What the hell does "wipe out the entire country of Ukraine" mean? Are you OK?
And what about Yegor? Why would anybody want to wipe out Yegor?


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