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Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades



mafketis
6 Apr 2022  #7651

how exactly do you differ from the russians?

Poland is not invading a peaceful neighbor at present... calls for genocide are not a regular feature of Polish state tv.

Western politicians considered themselves very clever people who take advantage of Russian fools.

Utter total failure of the entire political establishment in countries like Germany and France.... Germany is the worse case since it made its economy almost entirely dependent on the good will of a bloodthirsty dictator (the invasion of Ukraine was not a surprise to anyone and many many people saw it years ago but the German political establishment simply ignored all the warning signs).

Germany should have no influence within the EU for a very long time after such catastrophic failure.

Miloslaw
6 Apr 2022  #7652

The Czechs are sending tanks to Ukraine.

dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10691043/First-NATO-country-sends-tanks-Ukraine-Czech-Republic-provides-tanks-following-Zelenskys-plea.html

Bratwurst Boy
6 Apr 2022  #7653

Interesting:

Express departure from Russia: Partner Kazakhstan gives Putin a political blow

merkur.de/politik/konflikt-ukraine-krieg-wladimir-putin-russland-kasachstan-erdoel-erdgas-europa-rohstoffe-zr-91459776.html

In the Ukraine war, the important partner Kazakhstan turns away from Russia. According to a report, it does not recognize the republics of Luhansk and Donetsk. On top of that. ...

twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1511298088006299650?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1511298088006299650%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fmerkur.de%2Fpolitik%2Fkonflikt-ukraine-krieg-wladimir-putin-russland-kasachstan-erdoel-erdgas-europa-rohstoffe-zr-91459776.html

Brave! Putin could decide to go in there next....after all Kasachstan was also within "old borders" once!

mafketis
6 Apr 2022  #7654

Putin could decide to go in there next....after all Kasachstan

Northern Kazakhstan was definitely on the agenda.... of the imperial crazies.... (Baltics were a mixed bag, some wanted them but some didn't care). But Belarus, Ukrain and Northern Kazakhstan were absolutely vital for the neo-imperial vision...

Bratwurst Boy
6 Apr 2022  #7655

The Kasachs better go dusting their military....

johnny reb
6 Apr 2022  #7656

More than 2.5 million refugees have entered Poland from Ukraine since Russia invaded Ukraine.
Over a period of weeks, Poland has effectively become a binational country.
One key question involves schooling.
Polish officials estimate that 700,000 Ukrainian pupils can enter Poland's public schools, while United Nations officials think the total number of eligible children in the country may be as high as 1 million.

However, (PiS) party has centered the Polish education system on Polish identity and a particular notion of national shared memory.
That will make it very hard to integrate refugees in my opinion.

jon357
6 Apr 2022  #7657

Northern Kazakhstan

I was supposed to go there just before lockdown for a rotational oil job. Everyone there was entirely russian,...

The Czechs are sending tanks to Ukraine.

Every day, more orcs are repelled!

More than

Cut and paste.

Novichok
6 Apr 2022  #7658

Nawalny, a prominent enemy of Putin got poisened in Russia,

If I post the link to the Russian version of the Navalny case and their contacts with the Germans, are you going to read it?

mafketis
6 Apr 2022  #7659

Navalny is not much better than Putin.

No. He's not.

It's really a massive civilizational failure on the part of Russians that they _still_ can't fathom a system of government except for Tsar (who can't leave office in any kind of non-traumatic way).

Ukrainians have gotten over that and have moved on (which is why the backward Russian state encourages hatred of them).

johnny reb
6 Apr 2022  #7660

European Council president said that European Union countries should think about ways to offer asylum to Russian soldiers willing to desert Ukraine battlefields.
I wouldn't recommend Poland to be one of the host countries though. :-/

Cut and paste.

It's "copy" and paste, not cut and paste.

Novichok
6 Apr 2022  #7661

Poland is not invading a peaceful neighbor at present...

But found an enemy 1500 miles away not long ago. That's what prostitute countries do - serving their pimps. Yes, that Article 5 and a moment of shame for the world's biggest superpower needing its wh*ores as a decoration. It sure wasn't for their firepower.

mafketis
6 Apr 2022  #7662

But found an enemy 1500 miles away not long ago.

And this is relevant.... how? I mean... what's going on in your head that you're so fixated on it? Do supposed you're going to find supporters of that disaster here?

Are you just trying to deflect attention from the poor military showing (and inhuman behavior) of the Russian army?

Are you desperate for attention? Poor thing....

jon357
6 Apr 2022  #7663

It's really a massive civilizational failure on the part of Russians

Unfortunately Russia is not so much a civilisation as a particularly exploitative class system and set of financial scams.

A problem that isn't great for them or their neighbours now, and will be increasingly less sustainable as time goes on.

It's "copy" and paste, not cut and paste.

You don't have permission to address me.

And it is cut 'n paste...

Cojestdocholery
6 Apr 2022  #7664

Ukrainians

Are different. Different history.

jon357
6 Apr 2022  #7665

Different history.

Hardly surprising. A lot of shared history too, perhaps too much of the wrong sort.

Miloslaw
6 Apr 2022  #7666

We don`t know who killed people Bucha but many accuse Russia

But we do.

The satellite image showing the bodies in the street was taken during the Russian occupation.

PolAmKrakow
6 Apr 2022  #7667

The average price of a new car in Russia rose by 35-40% in March, according to Russian car market analytics website Avtostat. And production of cars has all but stopped along with a 63% drop in car sales since March 1.

Anyone who says Russia will not be crippled by these sanctions is simply a retard in front of a keyboard. And these sanctions will remain for years until Ukraine is made whole again and all construction to rebuild is complete. Russia is F'd

Miloslaw
6 Apr 2022  #7668

Proof that the Russians always planned the genocide of Ukrainians.

medium.com/@jkmuf1861/a-russian-plan-for-the-genocide-of-the-ukrainian-people-8c866bed9c63

Ziemowit
6 Apr 2022  #7669

Are you just trying to deflect attention from the poor military showing (and inhuman behavior) of the Russian army?

I should perhaps remind you that Novi-cock was called a "Russian troll" for the first time on this forum some two or three years before the Russian invasion of Ukraine.

PolAmKrakow
6 Apr 2022  #7670

Finnish government to submit a NATO membership proposal to the country's parliament by mid-April. Self fulfilling prophecies for Putin.

Novichok
6 Apr 2022  #7671

Proof that the Russians always planned the genocide of Ukrainians.

Did you read it?

Atch
6 Apr 2022  #7672

Proof that the Russians always planned the genocide of Ukrainians.

Is the article by Timofey Sergeytsev?

Crow
6 Apr 2022  #7673

Thank God we Slavs have Russia to deal with nazism. No, they aren`t perfect but they are strong. Not weak like rest of us- Serbia, Poland, Czeska, Slovakia, Bulgaria and dear Ukraine that fell even under nazi yoke.

Miloslaw
6 Apr 2022  #7674

Is the article by Timofey Sergeytsev?

Yes.

Crnogorac3
6 Apr 2022  #7675

All others in advance knows who is right and who is wrong.

See, Belgrade.

youtu.be/zkhyfKKZs4M

Paulina
6 Apr 2022  #7676

They've found on social media one of the soldiers who actively participated in the massacre in Bucha (they knew which Russian military unit was there at that time):

o2.pl/informacje/napisali-do-kata-ktory-mordowal-w-buczy-ohydna-odpowiedz-grozi-powrotem-6755231508388448a

My translation of a fragment from the article:

'The Ukrainians started writing to him that he's "a murderer and an occupier". In response he openly admitted to comitting cruel crimes on the civillian population of Ukraine, he also started to threaten Ukrainians with a come back to their lands and with comitting further atrocities. "When I'll get you again, I'll rip your heads off. You have to understand that we're on your land and we're killing you, and you're only stinky, walking corpses." - wrote Tkach to Ukrainians on social media.'

That psycho is a 20-year-old Mikhail Tkach from Vladivostok.

Behold the face of evil:

evil

Screenshots of those messages can be seen here:

ukrainetoday.org/2022/04/05/i-will-cut-your-heads-20-year-old-occupier-executioner-from-bucha-threatens-ukrainians-again/

And other stuff:

slidstvo.info/warnews/buchanski-katy-rosijski-vijskovi-z-tyhookeanskogo-flotu-prychetni-do-genotsydu-na-kyyivshhyni/

pawian
6 Apr 2022  #7677

That psycho is a 20-year-old Mikhail Tkach from Vladivostok.

That guy is a dead man. Ukrainians will find him everywhere unless he hides in the African jungle, joins an isolated local tribe and completely cuts off his contact with civilisation. ,.

Behold the face of evil:

Looks European but that is misleading - his mentality is of the ASSian barbaric horde.

Today in Belgrade in commemoration of nazi German victims in 1941

In 10 years minimum we will celebrate the sad anniversary of Ukrainian victims of current genocide by RuSSists. Old Nazis and New RuSSists are the same scum - beasts in human bodies. Let them be cursed for ever.


  • putinnaziswastika.jpg

jon357
6 Apr 2022  #7678

one of the soldiers who actively participated in the massacre in Buch

That guy's life expectancy has just shortened radically. Obviously a war crimes tribunal is the appropriate place for him, however if any Ukrainians find him, nobody could blame them for rough justice.

Old Nazis and New RuSSists are the same scum - beasts in human bodies

I can magine Ukrainians (including diaspora) taking years to pick off fugitives one by one if they evade justice.

GefreiterKania
6 Apr 2022  #7679

Exactly.

They will be like their German nazi predecessors - hiding somewhere in South America, being hunted down one by one like animals. That's how all nazis end up eventually.

jon357
6 Apr 2022  #7680

That's how all nazis end up eventually

Basically yes.

When they kill people's family members, they get bitter bitter enemies for life.

Some of the old Nazis were arrested even in their dotage. Others (perhaps more than people think) were offed by Shoah survivors.


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