Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades

Like they did from Crimea. That was awful...I mean truck after truck full of decomposing bodies...That's why Russia built that bridge, I guess.

Afghanistan too, whole convoys of zinc coffins containing Russia's youth.

@Novichok
Crimea was taken by surprise. But now there will be no surprise.

From dailymail.com:

But Russia's Ambassador to Sweden Viktor Tatarintsev said Putin 'doesn't give a s**t' about sanctions.

Wait just a second...Does that mean the "very serious consequences" were not serious enough? We should immediately make them seriouser and cut their kids off of Facebook.


After 8 years, the surprise element wore off. Time for action. Who is first?


Americans couldn't use trucks to transport theirs. They had to be flown. So much for learning from the Russian unhappy experience.

None at all compared to the deluded Russian public who don't realise how bad it's going to get for them.

We all know that if the Russian state says one thing, the opposite is often true.

This one's going to be bloody. Ukraine will fight to the last person, against an unwilling and unwitting conscript 'army' who as I mentioned before have an average length of service of 8 months. And that 8 month average includes the career soldiers and officers too; most of the cannon fodder in the front line were drafted in the autumn and are literally crapping themselves with fear at their inevitable agonising fate.

As long as it is not the last American, it's their choice and I am cool with that.
Memo to the Ukrainians who are willing to die for their country: Don't be stupid. Don't die.
The only bloody is bloody stupid - whose who think it will be bloody. Or as bloody as in Crimea 8 years ago - if you mean Russian women menstruating.

That's actually true because he doesn't give a sh(t about the Russian people... they're serfs for him to use as he (the tsar) sees fit.

Russia never changed systems from the Tsars until now they just have different labels...

Then you all should be for him to "invade" Ukraine, pis* off the Russian people, and start a 2014-kind of "revolution" to throw him out of office.

How is that for a plan? Am I brilliant or what?


So you obey rules only if slapped?

Stop asking provocative questions which require answers refering to your person which is viewed unfavourably by the Staff. :):) In other words - stop being such Narcyz. :):)

Let me think: yes, you are, but only twice or thrice a year. :):):)

That's true.

There's also a good analogy between the ghastly unwashed Boyars of Tsarist times and the pot-bellied Oligarchs of today.

About Putin, it's anyone's guess if he'll end up like Stalin, dying in a pool of his own waste surrounded by murderous toadies refusing to call a doctor in case he can be revived or like Nicholas, shot in a cellar with his family.

that land had plenty of Polish people (there were areas where Poles were 50 per cent of the population, not to mention Lwów/Lviv itself

So did Hamtramck Michigan at one time with 75% being Polish population.
Poland didn't feel it belonged to them and didn't try to steal it though.

Yes, it is close to 1 May, Labour Day, celebrated by communists as their major holiday in the year. Is that what you mean as significant? hahaha

Also, the Day of the Flag which was introduced quite recently, in 2004.

If you were really so intent on alluding to Polish glorious history, you should have chosen 3 May, Constitution Day, celebrated since 1791, when Poles proclaimed the first constitution in Europe, second in the world. Did you hear about such an event???

So, all in all, I suspect your choice of the date was purely accidental and it is only today that you are trying to make up an important story of it.

Aren't you annoying little troll?


How is your Russian?


What do you know about Poland?>? Not much.

So, we can consider, that Crimea, that till 1954 (if memory serves me correctly) was an integral part of RSFSR, and was handed to Ukrainian SSR by Kruschev without any referendum and with violation of constitutional procedure, can be considered rightfully Russian.

We should add that population there is preliminarily Russian, language used everywhere is Russian (that was acted to banderists as red maleta to corrida bulls). In addition, there was referendum in 1991 (as Crimea was autonomous republic within Ukrainian SSR, it had right to choose their way if republic leave Union - became part of Union, became independent, or be part of same republic). You can look what outcome that referendum had in wikipedia, for example. But ukrainian nationalistic government simply ignored results if referendum. (BTW: Georgian nazis also "played" similar way with similar referendum in Southern Ossetia at same time, and there was low intensity armed conflict till 2008).

People of Crimea returned to this question in 2014, with known results.

About the body bags - I strongly suspect that if the Russian Marines landed in Odessa, the worst danger they would face is being strangled in the arms of the locals and drowning in reproaches for not coming sooner. The Bandera abomination will already be halfway to the Polish border at that point.

Considering that it was dependent on water from Ukraine there was some sense to it....


The only two people I've ever known from Crimea both claimed Ukrainian as their native language.


you apparently believe hysterical russian propaganda...

Yes, Crimea is the only territory in Ukraine which we can dub as Russian. However, seizing it the way Russians did was a blatant violation of Ukrainian sovereignty. And the immediate result was European and Western sanctions on Russia, which have been in force till today.


That`s wishful thinking. If Russians were so strong in Odessa, they would have taken control of the city already in 2014. But they were easily contained and shown their proper place.

So what?
What difference did that make?
It was still part of the USSR!


That is also meaningless.
The majority of those people also regard themselves as citizens of Ukraine.

As to the body bags, if Russians really are so stupid that they invade, Russian
logistics will not be capable of repatriation of that many bodies and many will have to be buried in Ukraine.
And with the economic sanctions the West will impose on Russia, Russia will be too poor to bring these bodies back anyway.
Then you get the anger of the ordinary Russians about their dead sons.....this is a lose/lose situation for Russia.

You will die sometime. Why spend time and effort to prosecute someone who killed you? ;)

If something is done not in order of law - it probably done wrong.


... by acts of terror. This is only strong side of banderists.

PS: If Kresy Wschodnie will eventually return to Poland, polish authorities will have hard times. ;)

administratively the decision made sense...

the annexation is the classic case of a pyrrhic victory....

aljazeera.com/news/2021/5/21/the-devastating-human-economic-costs-of-crimeas-annexation

Velund, are you prepared to become a much poorer man after the invasion commences? Experts, especially Russian economists, predict that average Russians will receive a huge blow. For example, your savings will be frozen in order to finance the war. And new taxes will be imposed. Your stock market will collapse, together with your currency and the double digit inflation will explode. Shortages and queues will return to shops. And this situation may continue for years coz the sanctions won`t be lifted so quickly - only after Russian invaders withdraw from occupied parts of Ukraine.

Is that what you are opting for?


Do you imply that Russian little green men together with their pro-Russian separatist allies always played fair?? hahaha


Stop this nonsense, it is really below your dignity. Nobody here will fall for it. Your Kremlin propaganda textbook doesn`t work here. :):)

And you would be wrong and this helps to explain why you don't care about the situation of Poles in Ukraine now living under Russian threat.

If anything it just goes to show how much of an incorrigible communist you are; completely ignorant of a holiday created by and continuously acknowledged by the Polish government since 2002.

Celebrating the Day of Polish Community and Poles Abroad and Republic of Poland Flag Day

"Now in their nineteenth year, the celebrations highlight the centuries-old contribution of Polish diaspora communities to the regaining of Poland's independence, their faithfulness and commitment to the Polish cause, and their support for the homeland in its most difficult moments."

Source: gov.pl/web/usa-en/celebrating-the-day-of-polish-community-and-poles-abroad-and-republic-of-poland-flag-day

I have lived all my life in a country that has been subject to sanctions of one level or another. It's not as scary as they tell you.

The worst thing that ever happened was a short-term drop in income of about 30%. Then revenues recovered to almost their previous level. But the counter-sanctions with which Putin responded literally reanimated our own agriculture, so that the country became a net exporter of food in a short time. As for the rest - as long as Russia has a border with China, isolating it from the world won't work. ;) And every "shot" of these sanctions is one less "bullet in the clip" for your politicians. ;) Because then there will be only mice and rats in sewers and basements to sanction when all the other sanctions have been imposed and will not do any good. ;)

PS: We have a new joke circulating around here - "the one who is squeamish about shaking hands with Putin is doomed to learn how to bow properly to Xi.";)

That is the famous Russian character which always shocked me - you gladly accept the situation when your rulers make you lead your life on your knees. And they even demand that you boast of being satisfied and show happiness. And you do coz you are so frightened of their anger and retaliation if you don`t . I don`t know if I should laugh or cry over your pitiful state of mind.


Yes, but how did it improve the condition of an average Russian if the Kremlin invests all this money in the army? You see this profit only on paper, when you read Pravda.


Darling, how does communism relate to a Polonia holiday established in 2002??? :):):)

and that never made you wonder?

Sh*t... I do not see poor country around me (a lot of trips to Europe and Asia last years, so able to compare). We have no parking lots around building to park the cars, and cars mostly not older than 4-5 yrs, if you drive after 7-8 pm, you have to drive around the block to find a spot to park somewhere. Construction workers is overloaded with work everywhere. No shortages with food and regular household goods (if manufacture is not local, it is Chinese, West seems to produce sanctions and scary words only last years). Cities is renovated everywhere, I recently visited Tver and Yaroslavl - not as fancy as it done in Moscow but quite nice progress... And I can compare Paris to Moscow (been there, seen that). Moscow is much more convenient place to live last years, and far tidier than Paris. Muslims is also seen often, but it is far more peaceful here.

If someone starts telling you that the Russians are eating the last hedgehogs - spit in his face, he is grossly deceiving you.

But army is really got a boost in salaries and equipment. Many young people sign a contract, as army is one of "social lifts", opening a lot of possibilities after completing service.

pl.usembassy.gov/message-to-u-s-citizens-poland-ukraine-border-open-to-u-s-citizens-february-12-2022/
U.S. citizens must present a valid U.S. passport and proof of COVID-19 vaccination.


A Polish moron is worse.


I have said that dozens of times here. These morons here are resistant to facts and oblivious to the truth so they never comment back on points.


If that was the case, Russia haters would produce a poll to support this point.


I like those strong words...immediate, sanctions, force...You are good, pawian...You should work for the US State Department.


I didn't notice anyone frightened. Can you be more specific?

Cut down on your number of quotes please

Yes, but it wasn`t enough to improve the standard of life for average citizens. I can provide dozens of sites which clearly say: Russians have suffered a noticeable deterioration of their economic condition since 2014. And new sanctions will even make their plight worse.


No, I can`t coz I am going to bed. Stop hiding from me and ask me questions earlier, OK?

I see what is happening here, after the thieving "liberal democrats" of Yeltsin's time were kicked out of power with **** rags. They also could have reached the Central Bank, which is stupidly carrying out the IMF's sabotage instructions instead of contributing to the country's development.

Russia has a future, it became clear in the early 2000s. And the more obvious it becomes, the more the Anglo-Saxons are trying to curb the development of a competitor with sanctions and trickery.

In the 1990s I had thoughts of emigrating. Then they disappeared.


Are you tried to visit Russia and look around instead of reading various crap? ;) Looks pretty stupid when someone try to convince me that I'm become poorer when I had 1.5 times increase of income in last 2 years.

The U.S. media is bidens top ally when it comes to stoking war with Russia.
While Europe resists Washington's Ukraine-Russia war fever, establishment US news outlets are a reliable partner in propaganda.