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Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades



mafketis
14 Apr 2022  #8371

Z will be very safe in London, not dead in Kyiv

Says our own Moscow Rose...


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Novichok
14 Apr 2022  #8372

Hey, a-hole, how about not getting personal? On the other hand, it means that you are out of arguments. So to give you something to chew on, did you know that 1000+ Ukrainian Marines surrendered to the Russian army just now and that the clean-up in Mariupol is almost done?

Strangely, all of them had the same first name - Stasio or Stasiek. Not sure. Those damn cowards, instead of fighting to the last man, just folded like a cheap tent. Not very original but it fits so well.

mafketis
14 Apr 2022  #8373

1000+ Ukrainian Marines surrendered to the Russian army just now and that the clean-up in Mariupol is almost done?

No confirmed and pictures only show a dozen or so not in uniform, so could be misinformation...

And again, what makes you think the Russians weren't planning on killing a lot of people had they won? Why else would they bring portable crematoriums and tens of thousands of body bags (and kill-lists) for a campaign they thouhgt would last less than a week?

Surrendering would have just made it easier for them to kill more people (the real plan as Russian state tv keeps making clear)....

Does this sound like a country that will be nice to those who surrender?

twitter.com/carlbildt/status/1514600448728002565

Pure insanity...

Hey, a-hole, how about not getting personal?

If you can't take the heat....

jon357
14 Apr 2022  #8374

Says our own Moscow Rose...

Not classy enough or intelligent enough to be Lord Haw Haw,

so could be misinformation...

Reasonable assume that it is, given that the source is russia...

mafketis
14 Apr 2022  #8375

Worth pointing out this again.

This is the head of Russia Today calling for censorship as a necessary thing for a successful society....

twitter.com/carljackmiller/status/1514492755128446980

Anyone who ever quotes Russia Today is a stooge (or a collaborator) for this mindset.

Novichok
14 Apr 2022  #8376

And again, what makes you think the Russians weren't planning on killing a lot of people had they won?

What makes you think the Russians are planning on killing a lot of people if they win? Crimea?
Russia wants the Russian-majority parts of Ukraine and do the Kosovo thing with them - not much different from Crimea. You know Kosovo, that Western model of self-determination and democracy...

Just wondering...Why are the Russians in Donbas called "separatists" while the Kosovars were "freedom fighters"?
You are so eloquent so go for it...
Also, while you are hot, the Western part of Poland used to be German. Was there a referendum and the stupid Germans decided to join Poland or was it brutally taken away from Germany by Stalin and his Western buddies and given to Poland?

mafketis
14 Apr 2022  #8377

What makes you think the Russians are planning on killing a lot of people

The body bags, the kill-lists, the mobile crematoriums.... what do you think those were for?

Why are the Russians in Donbas called "separatists"

Russians in Donbas aren't from Donbas they're from Russia, low level gangsters put in charge by Moscow (as explained by Galeev more than once but since you're incapable of understanding or believing what he wrote then.... that's on you )

jon357
14 Apr 2022  #8378

censorship as a necessary thing for a successful society....

To a point it is. Intelligence matters, names of children in court cases, naming rape survivors, publishing opinions about guilt or innocence during ongoing jury trials.

That however is normality and decency, something common to any civilised society. The censorship the russians practice is a whole other issue.

Russians in Donbas

It's mistake to assume that russian-speaking Ukrainians in Donbass or elsewhere are russian, however so many people make that mistake.

And those who do, probably by have no idea what Surzhyk is.

Novichok
14 Apr 2022  #8379

The body bags, the kill-lists, the mobile crematoriums.... what do you think those were for?

OK, one at a time. Body bags - to bag dead bodies. Like in Vietnam. Kill lists - lists of those who committed crimes against Russia. Like in Nuremberg. Crematoria - to burn dead bodies before they contaminate the environment and make the living sick. Like in NY.

Russians in Donbas aren't from Donbas they're from Russia,

Wow! I didn't know that all those in Donbas who speak Russian are illegal aliens. Thanks for the info. Uks should have deported them immediately. Now, it's late-ish.

PolAmKrakow
14 Apr 2022  #8380

@Novichok
Imagine the outcry from you POS if Putin was on a kill list. For crimes against humanity, crimes against Ukraine. You are a Fing hypocrite. Again the dumbest person on PF by a mile.

"Ukraine is a crime scene. We're here because we have reasonable grounds to believe that crimes within the jurisdiction of the ICC are being committed. We have to pierce the fog of war to get to the truth," Khan said after visiting Bucha on Wednesday, according to a tweet by the ICC.

mafketis
14 Apr 2022  #8381

I didn't know that all those in Donbas who speak Russian are illegal aliens.

No. they're Russian speaking Ukrainians, a completely different thing.

Language does not determine cultural identity in this case.

Korvinus
14 Apr 2022  #8382

Macron sucks, but Le Pen is much worse

Le Pen is a dead end. That remark about Putin was completely braindead. Almost like she didn't want to win and she is just controlled opposition.

jon357
14 Apr 2022  #8383

Almost like she didn't want to win and she is just controlled opposition.

No, she's just a fool with a low IQ who inherited a political brand from her repellant father and got a 9 million loan and possibly other support from Putin.

"Ukraine is a crime scene ..."

Crimes should always be prosecuted, perpetrators must always be punished and there will be justice for the victims of russian war crimes. Perhaps not tomorrow, but one day it will happen.

Cojestdocholery
14 Apr 2022  #8384

other support from Putin.

All French candidates support Putin, at least she doesn't call him everyday like Mikron.

I didn't know that all those in Donbas who speak Russian are illegal aliens.

In the same way all those people in the USA speaking English are English, deport them!

pawian
14 Apr 2022  #8385

Breaking news: the RuSSist cruiser ship has eventually sunk! Hurrray!!!


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pawian
14 Apr 2022  #8386

RuSSist media are thrilled: they announced the RuSSist fleet has just acquired a new powerful submarine. hahahahaha

buhahahaha


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Miloslaw
14 Apr 2022  #8387

@pawian

Hahahaha!!

jon357
14 Apr 2022  #8388

All French candidates support Putin

Le Pen does. Micron just wants the reconstruction contracts afterwards.

mafketis
14 Apr 2022  #8389

RuSSist cruiser ship has eventually sunk!

While it was being towed in a storm.... yeah sure. Now I'm assuming it sunk when first hit and it took them this long to come up with a lie that some might be able to pretend to believe....

Le Pen does

She wants out of NATO command... do you think she'd try to send French troops to support Russia? OR would she be more subtle...

I loathe Macron but she's worse, a cheerleader for genocide (maybe that's the appeal for some?)

Miloslaw
14 Apr 2022  #8390

Le Pen does. Micron just wants the reconstruction contracts afterwards

French politicians are despicable.

pawian
14 Apr 2022  #8391

While it was being towed in a storm.

Official RuSSist communiqe

The Moskva missile cruiser sank while being towed to its destination in a storm due to damage to the hull caused by a fire caused by the detonation of ammunition, reported the Russian state agency TASS, citing the Ministry of Defense in Moscow.

Hey, Putin trolls: Novi, Crngorac, Crow, etc - what do you think? :):):):):):):):):)):):)


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Tacitus
14 Apr 2022  #8392

Losing your flagship against an enemy without a fleet is really impressive.

jon357
14 Apr 2022  #8393

I loathe Macron but she's worse

We agree on this.

French politicians are despicable

They've got a choice between a nazzy and a necrophile.

Losing your flagship against an enemy without a fleet is really impressive

After this war is over, Ukraine will be very busy producing those Neptune missiles for sale.

pawian
14 Apr 2022  #8394

LOL!!

Yes, LOL. :):):)

really impressive

:):):)


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amiga500
14 Apr 2022  #8395

let us be realistic here, russia will take 'donbas' as as in donesk and luhansk areas. they will get kharkiv and maybe odessa. it will take many months of bloody warfare. but these invading scum have the capability. what i don't understand is the west inability or maybe cowardice in letting ukraine fighters die to the death without getting supplied what they need. (tanks, migs, s300s etc) and training them in the high end western tech, i'm sure its happening in secret but why not let it be known? it is a proxy war after all. why are the west such pussies? why wait till the inevitable russian onslaught in the next few weeks before you react? what is happening in marioupol is a stain and a shame on the west.

pawian
14 Apr 2022  #8396

they will get kharkiv and maybe odessa.

No, they won`t. Cheer up and drop this pessimism - it might be contagious. :):):) Look up some expertise analysis on the net - RuSSists are not able to achieve even their minor goals in Ukraine. Their endeavours are OUT OF PLACE, OUT OF TIME. (Poe)

Here is a nice pic for you:


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amiga500
14 Apr 2022  #8397

RuSSists are not able to achieve even their minor goals.

yes they said that about syriia and how putin was stupid and look what happened a year later. there is hand to hand combat in the industrial complex in the mariupol and the west is not doing ****. i noticed that it's now slovakia talking to the usa about supplying the migs... jesus christ stop talking and just do it! tanks too, if putin wants to drop a tactical small nuke hah then do it! he won't dare!

@pawian
how can i be optimistic when the half the west are a bunch of middle class cowards that will not put up with an inch of discomfort, as in putting on a sweater for the next month to strangle russian economy ie gas sanctions and a bit of gas shortage to stop the war? ie rationing for citizens but keep german industry going? the sanctions are not doing much, the only thing feeding the russian economy is gas sales to europe, cut that by 30-50 and thats KO

Tacitus
14 Apr 2022  #8398

Khariv and Odessa are several times larger than Mariupol and have been significantly fortified. I would not count on the Russians being able to take them with the forces they have currently at their disposal.

amiga500
14 Apr 2022  #8399

with the new general that was in charge of the syrian operation they are about to triple their forces in the east. yes several times larger, nothing that grads and cluster bombs can't raze to the ground.

Crnogorac3
14 Apr 2022  #8400

t.me/intelslava/25199

Spetsnaz trophies in Ukraine.
Various grenade launchers, small arms, ammunition, as well as a remarkable flag with Stepan Bandera.

Russians: 'There is no mercy towards foreign mercenaries and dogs of war.'

t.me/intelslava/25230

Special Forces from the Chechen Republic liquidated a representative of the US intelligence agency in the Donbas, - Dudayev

"This is the fate of representatives of the US special services who fell into the hands of fighters from the Chechen Republic, who do not leave a single crime (against the civilian population of the LDNR) unpunished!" - writes the Chechen Minister Akhmed Dudayev.

1

Aiden Eslyn captured in Mariupol, looks like he slept badly.

;)

t.me/intelslava/25211


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