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Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades



mafketis
19 Apr 2022  #8671

Russia is fighting mainly Russians.

Russian nonsense. The average Russian is a serf, fearing and idolizing the tsar and totally accepting their dispossession.

The average Ukrainian is a citizen who does not idolize power and who are capable of civil society (which Russia has never had)

twitter.com/DefenceU/status/1516076702518161410

Never forget the difference.

Korvinus
19 Apr 2022  #8672

marketwatch.com/articles/russia-strong-ruble-cut-interest-rate-winning-sanctions-war-51649610606?mod=mktw&mod=article_inline

marketwatch.com/story/russias-brain-drain-hundreds-of-thousands-of-professionals-and-highly-skilled-workers-have-left-country-since-putins-invasion-of-ukraine-11649688506

Here are some realistic and sobering links about the future of the Russian economy due to Putins War. Sanctions and their impact is a long term game and these links highlight this

All of the impending and current damage to the Russian economy can be reversed but it requires a major shift in the geopolitical decisions that Putin and or Russian leadership make

jon357
19 Apr 2022  #8673

fake

Anything anything coming from russia and it's shills can be assumed to be a lie.

mafketis
19 Apr 2022  #8674

In other news, the Russian shill Gonzalo Liro (aka "red pill coach") has been missing for a few days.

The assumption is that he's been arrested by Ukrainian special forces and/or is giving his organs a rest....

jon357
19 Apr 2022  #8675

arrested by Ukrainian special forces and/or is giving his organs a rest....

As far as I can tell, these "red pill" cranks (I'm surrounded by them where I am now and crikey what a shower) say their red pill is something to do with waking up to reality. It seems that this one has found out (or found out) that the reality of running with the russians carries great risks and that those who live by the sword often die by it.

mafketis
19 Apr 2022  #8676

those who live by the sword often die by

Russian shills are totally losing their sh!t over this... they're far more upset at this than well-documented Russian atrocities.... even though most of them are safely nowhere close to Ukraine or Russia (being a Russian shill usually means not knowing much about how Russia works).

amiga500
19 Apr 2022  #8677

realistic and competent assessment of the weapons Ukraine needs to hold off the russian invasion in the medium/long term. warontherocks.com/2022/04/supporting-ukraine-for-the-long-war-2/

Atch
19 Apr 2022  #8678

Ilyich Iron & Steel Works plant has fallen.

More lies from you. The statement released by your bosses was actually "Today, with the help of the Almighty, we will ... take over Azovstal completely." Note the future tense there, indicating that the goal is intended rather than already achieved.

pawian
19 Apr 2022  #8679

Ukraine has been given everything these last 8 plus years by the West.

Another lie by Putin troll. Planes haven`t been given. Nor helicopters. Or ships. Only light defensive armament. Some old ex Soviet heavier stuff just recently so Ukrainians have been using them for a few days while the war has been going on for nearly 2 months.

Russia should have put half a million troops

Very good. The internal disturbances in RuSSia will start earlier than we expected before after 50.000 ethnic RuSSians die in Ukraine. Ha!

Crnogorac3
19 Apr 2022  #8680

Training of the air part of the Victory Parade: 8 fighters of the Russian Aerospace Forces are flying in a formation in the form of the letter "Z"

twitter.com/r_u_vid/status/1516233253560016899

1

mafketis
19 Apr 2022  #8681

in the form of the letter "Z"

The new swastika! Someone seirously needs to denazify Russia, the place is lousy with them.

Atch
19 Apr 2022  #8682

Training of the air part of the Victory Parade

God, you're an unmitigated eejit! Do you really think they can spare planes to 'practise' for an imaginary victory parade?

amiga500
19 Apr 2022  #8683

great feel good article about how pukins attempt to waltz into kiev was smashed. their best spetnatz in the helis and their best paratroopers in the ill-76 blown out of the sky:)

"Yet his failure to seize Kyiv will be long remembered - for how it defied prewar expectations and exposed surprising weaknesses in a military thought to be one of the strongest in the world.

"It's stunning," said military historian Frederick Kagan of the the American Enterprise Institute's Critical Threats Project, who says he knows of no parallel to a major military power like Russia invading a country at the time of its choosing and failing so utterly." apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-war-battle-for-kyiv-dc559574ce9f6683668fa221af2d5340

Miloslaw
19 Apr 2022  #8684

@amiga500

Great article!

Atch
19 Apr 2022  #8685

FLYOVER OF ILLYCH FACTORY WHICH FELL TO RF FORCES TODAY

Would you care to tell us why you told that silly lie?

jon357
19 Apr 2022  #8686

Great article!

Yes. A sound article, well worth reading in full.

Victory Parade

I wonder if I wonder if they're going to buy their tanks back from Ukrainian farmers.

Meanwhile, a data leak/hack from the courier company they use has provided all the home addresses of the scum that were looting TVs, washing machines and clothes from Ukrainian homes to be sent back to russia.

Things must be pretty bad economically there if they have to pay to send stolen second-hand washing machines thousands of miles. Presumably they just can't get their own.

PolAmKrakow
19 Apr 2022  #8687

@Atch
He can't help himself. Just another POS Russian wannabe. All of these idiots who support Russia hopefully disappear once this is really over. Idiots take away from a lot of good conversation.

Crnogorac3
19 Apr 2022  #8688

youtu.be/wYo4XrnDbc0

Russia strikes 'fortress' steel plant of Mariupol

youtu.be/13qpuez50ds

East Sarajevo, Republic of Srpska - the supporters of FC Slavia sent a message of support for Russia

Right at the border, an independent journalist asks residents of Mariupol why they were stuck for so long.

You will not hear such testimonies from the Western mainstream media. Indeed, the Western media is guilty of trying to disguise the magnitude of the crimes committed by the Ukrainian idiots.

youtu.be/Z1E9n2Q5AWw

If the people of Donbass had a proper vote tomorrow it would be 80 percent in favor of Ukraine

Donbass is a 100% Russian land, where the people are with Russia, so they had to send neo-nazis / banderist thugs from Western Ukraine there to keep the population in fear.

pawian
19 Apr 2022  #8689

Donbass where the people are with Russia

Not are. Were. Now they don`t want RuSSist Order in their city and around coz it means poverty, corruption, thievery, rapes and random murders. For the same reason all other Slavic neighbours of RuSSia view it as Mongol savagery. RuSSists are finished in this part of Europe for decades, if not centuries.. :):)

mafketis
19 Apr 2022  #8690

an independent journalis

fake

Donbass is a 100% Russian land

lies, I've known people from there who speak Russian but consider themselves Ukrainian

Republic of Srpska

aka sh(th0le....

PolAmKrakow
19 Apr 2022  #8691

@Crnogorac3
If you are not Russian, or do not live in Russia, I have to question what motivates you and all your bullsh*t posting. Clearly you have no support here. Your comrades are incompetent and simply not as active as you. Obviously you struggle with low intelligence, and self esteem issues. What is your motivation to be on the wrong side of history and be a part of a losing effort?

cms neuf
19 Apr 2022  #8692

So these poor Arab mercenaries have arrived, 20.000 of them - only one problem, no tanks, no armour, not much ammo. Pretty sure some of these dudes will end up on the Poland- Belarus border in a few weeks moaning about the cold even though its Majowka.

Korvinus
19 Apr 2022  #8693

Donbass is a 100% Russian land

Look, I legit would have understood if Putin came out and said "those are Russian regions and we demand a referendum if they want to be in Russia or else" or even declared war citing reclaiming them as a Casus Belli.

But this retarded nonsense? Nazis? Please spare me.

jon357
19 Apr 2022  #8694

we demand a referendum if they want to be in Russia or else

The Twitter thread that Maf linked to earlier gives an excellent perspective on this.

Nazis? Please spare me.

They're channeling the 'Great Patriotic War' and playing on the fact that the only real option for young men in Ukraine in 1940/41 was (at first) to join the only side in the war that hadn't hitherto tried to starve them to death and/or hurt them in other ways.

Miloslaw
19 Apr 2022  #8695

@Crnogorac3
You are a complete moron!

Look, if Putin came out and said "those are Russian regions and we demand a referendum if they want to be in Russia or else

Common sense.

PolAmKrakow
20 Apr 2022  #8696

Ukraine receives fighter aircraft: Ukraine has received additional fighter aircraft from other countries not including the US, as well as parts to enable them to get more planes in the air, according to Pentagon press secretary John Kirby. "I would just say, without getting into what other nations are providing, that they have received additional platforms and parts to be able to increase their [aircraft fleet size]. I think I'd leave it at that," he said.

Now this will definitely help. If Ukraine can start dropping bombs on Russian forces with more regularity, things are going to be very difficult for Russia in short order.

amiga500
20 Apr 2022  #8697

Ukraine has received additional fighter aircraft from other countries not including the US,

believed to be mig 29s from poland, (finally!) poland is getting some italian tranche 1 eurofighters as interim replacement, also slovak migs might be a possibility

jon357
20 Apr 2022  #8698

believed to be mig 29s from poland

Good news. Poland, the U.K. and the U.S. are really helping Ukraine in their hour of need. Czech and Slovakia too.

I've mostly followed the U.K. response (apart from the NLAWs, we're also going to send Stormer missile launches and probably Brimstone missile systems) however I take my hat off to those countries with smaller economies who are making sacrifices that are proportionately bigger.

Meanwhile, two countries are very conspicuously not:
"Germany on Tuesday night refused to join an international coalition in sending heavy weaponry to Ukraine"
" In recent days, Berlin blocked an offer by Rheinmetall, a German defence manufacturer, to supply 50 refurbished Leopard 1 tanks"
" Emmanuel Macron, the French president, was silent after the call and did not commit to expanding shipments of anti-tank missiles, rifles or body armour to Ukraine."

Can they sink any lower?

mafketis
20 Apr 2022  #8699

Can they sink any lower?

They will....

jon357
20 Apr 2022  #8700

I did wonder if they're both waiting for other countries' economies to tank so they can buy up companies on the cheap.

They both have form for this.


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