Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades

@PolAmKrakow.

I'm reading your nonsensical mumbling above and trying to figure out - are you brain damaged from a CNN overdose or are you just too drunk today?

Just some observations...
- No, Russia does not want to be a closed/isolated nation.
- Yes, there were plans by pro-Western NGOs to help divide Russia into several "more easily manageable" parts. There were plans to support separatism in regions rich in natural resources. Fortunately, they failed (although the pro-Turkish brainwashing in Tatarstan created a lot of problems).

- Yes. We have nukes as a guarantee that an attempt to attack Russia with overwhelming force would be suicidal. And yes, in the event of an attack from NATO territory, no one will try to figure out whether it was a personal initiative of the Lithuanian president (for example) or a decision in the DoS Situation Room. All decision making centers will be treated as legitimate targets.

- No, we don't want an exact copy of the U.S. political system. We have our own understanding of how democracy should work, taking into account our own traditions, which are much older than the U.S. statehood. And about historical Polish version with the free veto, which allowed to block any decision of the Sejm by bribing or fooling a single nobleman.... Also keep it for yourself.

@Velund
See you are so Fing stupid you can not even understand what is written.

NO ONE WANTS RUSSIA OR RUSSIANS. Is that clear enough?

The world does not care about you or your country. Stay to yourselves. We are all just fine without you. those Russians in another country who want to go back to Russia. Pack your S**T and go.

I dont watch CNN, and I do not buy into propaganda from any government or political party. Its really quite simple. Russia wants something, and the rest of the world does not care. What does that say about your society and belief system? It says keep it to yourself. Just stay behind your borders. Not too difficult if you love it so much.

Nukes? Only half wits talk about nukes and using them. Total destruction is the only thing any nuke use will ever bring. But yes. Putin is clearly dumb enough to think he could get away with it. Even Iran is not this stupid any more. So nuke away and we all will never have to worry about borders, traditions, or nationality again.

In which case they should perhaps stop poisoning innocent women in the UK with novichok, invading neighbouring independent countries, shooting down passenger aeroplanes and jailing their opposition leaders.


That would make sense.


Hahahahaha

Another eight U.S. F-15 fighter jets landed in Poland today, according to the Polish defense minister, a move that comes as tensions over Russian military buildup outside Ukraine has reached a boiling point.

"More American F-15 fighters landed today at the base in Lask," Mariusz Blaszczak wrote on Twitter alongside photos of the American aircraft.
"Eight aircraft will join those that came to Poland last week."
America's newest nuclear bomb design has been successfully tested on the F-15E, making the Strike Eagle the first fighter jet to be officially compaiable with the B61-12 design.

Two test flights were flown twice in March at the Tonopah Test Range in Nevada, according to a release by Sandia Labs.
The mock weapon was released on one test at about 1,000 feet and at nearly the speed of sound, while a higher-altitude test occurred at around 25,000 feet; both tests hit the target as designed.

God forbid if these weapons from hell are turned loose.
I wonder where these war planes were moved from to come to Poland ?

not to mention pushing dissidents out of windows.....

I know a lot of people who are positive about Russians, so don't spread your personal complexes (if you're really not buying propaganda in bulk) to all of humanity.

We don't plan on making you happy and making an "iron curtain" for ourselves. And if you want to trade hatred for us as a commodity with endless supplies - do not expect that it will be tolerated forever.

And yes, nukes are not for use - nukes and the "Perimeter" system are for making sure that someone else who might have the idea of using theirs has had the incentive to think twice, three times, and so on to infinity..... Putin said bluntly - why do we need a world in which there is no place for Russia? ;)

We like the United States to have its own special way of life. And China has its own way of life. It's not better or worse than American, it's just different. And if someone thinks that the whole world should be arranged according to the same pattern to which they are accustomed, then they will have to limit their desires.

This discussion is a train wreck because you, Russia-hating idiots, can't stay on the subject and are all over the floor.
What really matters is what Putin said in Post 860. All that peripheral crap like dissidents and novichok is just a deflection.

Do you have any verifiable evidence after all this time? AFAIK, the coroner's inquest into the much earlier Litvinenko case has yet to be published.

Navalny's underpants, on the other hand, are really funny fiction. The drugs under which this action was scripted would have been a bestseller between SF writers. ;)

But the ease with which the MSM manages to feed this crap to the crowd in the west is depressing - it's not even brainwashing anymore.

Ask them if they know how to spell provocation, WMD, babies out of incubators, and Tonkin resolution.

@Velund
That's the thing, we can and almost all of us already do live in a world without Russia. I do business with Russians, and I know most of them want out, those that are educated anyway. No one wants Russia to be like USA because no one cares. This is classic Russian paranoia. Get over yourself, you have nothing we want.

As for Putin, the return of anything like the Russian Federation or Soviet Union is not going to be realized. That is simply stupid thinking. The good old days were not so good for Russia. But have them back if you will, enjoy.

Indeed.

Here's a list of Putin's crimes, and it isn't even the full rap sheet:

1) KGB Predator in East German Stasi

2) Organised mass grave relocations in Georgia to avoid UN investigators

3) Arranged a terror attack by bombing Russian apartment buildings killing 300 Russians to arrange a war in Chechnya after his political career failed

4) Poisoned the man who worked as an intelligence officer in Russia investigating organised crime who was asked by the Russian state to murder a Russian businessman because the rising middle class were a threat to KGB power. He said no and called a press conference and was sent to jail. His book became the only book to be banned by Russia since the cold war. Proved beyond reasonable doubt Putin was behind false flag terror attacks on Russians

5) Engineered the Beslang school massacre, poisoned journalist Anna Polikovskaya who had negotiated the peaceful end of the siege and ensured Russian special forces had to beg for guns from local farmers to ensure more bloodshed

6) Blows up civilian airliners

7) Chemical warfare against unarmed British civilians in Salisbury

8) Poisons Ukrainian Presidents

9) Poisons Russian political opponents

10) Russian journalists suffer plague of unexplained balcony mishaps

11) Sends in thugs from Spetznaz to horrifically injure and murder Ukrainian students protesting in Euromaidan

12) Becomes a billionaire using state funds and control of state businesses

13) Invades Ukraine and Georgia over faked ethnic clashes

14) Violently deranged Russian nationalist demanding the reunification of living space for the greater Russian people

Where did you read that this is his goal? Did you talk to him? You can say the same thing about the US: The return of anything like the US being the only superpower, nuclear or economic, is not going to be realized.

How about: the return of Westen Europe to being a clean, white territory where women could go out at night is never going to be realized.

You are fu*cked forever - a filthy Islamic mess with the locals outnumbered and afraid to go to where they used without fear.


Kennedy, Kennedy, King, Reagan, Ford. What do they have in common?


You mean that Iranian plane the US shot down?

I think that owners hotels and guesthouses in resorts all around the Mediterranean Sea wouldn`t agree with you. :):)

Cute again?


What's Predator? Or is it "A KGB predator", Mr. EnglishTeacher?
Tell us what did that KGB "predator" do while in East Germany that makes him a predator.

Pecunia non olet....even from Russia.

Good morning

Crimes of every single government. You know, those people who makes good to themselves, you vote (or not) for them and they are suppose to make you content. That is world we live in.

This is what this list is incomplete and inaccurate without:

0) Working in Judea in 33AD under the operative alias of Pontius Pilate, gave the order to crucify Christ.

At least the Soviets were honest and never called their system a democracy. Western democracy: changing puppets every four years - to the cheers or bootlicking idiots.

The day after: the same sh*it as the day before. Fewer rights, more migrants...


You forgot the Great Flood - God's Auschwitz and Katyn rolled into one.

Oops, sorry. No kids were murdered in Katyn.

No Novi, all murdered in Katyn were Kids of God.

OK. This makes me feel younger.

Putin was too young at that time, to be able to cause such global destruction. Please, do not discredit this respectable sins list.

To better understand NATO and EU in the morning of war in Ukraine.

> 1 day ago massive mujaheedine mobilization in Bosnia sponsored by EU and NATO >



> srbijadanas.com/vesti/region/da-se-najezis-scene-isis-usred-bosne-odjekuje-alahu-ekber-ponovo-se-okupljaju-nanicevi-mudzahedini-2022-02-12

> youtube.com/shorts/deXRLB0HT1k

What Poland doing in NATO and EU? What Poland have with it?

See? Its clear why Polish diaspora in the USA finance Bosnian Serbs via private companies of Corey Lewandowski. Its also more then clear why Hungary side with Serbia and not with Brussels.

@Crow

Your comments are not helpful nor educational at all.
But borne of pure ignorance and false propaganda.
Russia is the aggressor here just as it has been in all it's history.
Russia is an old fashioned bully boy, just like Serbia.
And that is all the two of you have in common.
Low life bully boys.

How many did he waterboard? None? Right, that was an American specialty.
How many did he or the Soviets kill while spreading "democracy" in SE Asia, looking for the WMD in Iraq, and protecting those newborn babies in Kuwait?

One thing he should be dragged in front of the ICC is for saying nyet to the fags in Russia's schools. Unforgivable. The bastard probably doesn't want to pay for sex-change operations in the Russian army and kindergartens, either. Hey, Vlad, what's up with that? Are you capable of shame?

@pawian
This is the top .05% that spend serious money. Most don't have it, and business will find others to take their places. They can continue to go to Dubai.

@Novichok
As for EU being clean and white, talk to the EU, Germany specifically for leading the integration movement. USA had nothing to do with EU accepting those people. Poland, Ukraine and others still nice and white. You would know this if you were here.

Serious and less serious, it still makes a few million people. It is too many to accept your claim that nobody wants Russia or Russians. You got carried away with that overstatement.

@pawian
The vast majority of the world then. How's that? The impact of their absence would not be a blip on the economic heartbeat of Europe.

As for my statements regarding Putin's desire to return to USSR or Russian Federation type of state, all you have to do is watch Putin: A Russian Spy Story on Netflix to get an idea of what he wants and why. An excellent historical account. This is also common knowledge among world leaders, and every move he makes outside of Russia supports those claims.

@jon
Are you referring to Alexander Litvinenko or another murdered KGB officer? very intersted to learn more about this book.

@amiga500

Yes.

The book is called "Blowing up Russia:Terror from Within".

In Germany there is news about Putin moving his troops away from the border...."deescalating" the situation!

Announcement by the Ministry of Defense

Russia announces the withdrawal of the first units from the Ukrainian border

Is it a sign of relaxation? According to the Kremlin, some Russian troops will be withdrawn from the border region with Ukraine. Kiev's foreign minister considers an escalation to be averted for the time being....

spiegel.de/ausland/ukraine-russland-zieht-erste-einheiten-von-grenze-ab-a-53fc9072-5b6b-4ef0-a262-2e3672bb640c

What's the news over at yours?