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Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades



Crnogorac3
16 Feb 2022  #961

Ukraine is ruled by oligarchs (tycoons) and political opportunists, who thought that by selling out Ukraine to NATO pact countries in order to endanger Russia would benefit them both politically and economically, however... they got nothing in return.

Novichok
16 Feb 2022  #962

because the military-industrial complex is the main driver of the American economy.

Oh, the irony...Some Russia haters here tell us how Russia has nothing to offer except gas and weapons. The US, on the other hand,...Oh, yeah, weapons and social media...and cars from imported parts. All else is made in China or Mexico - even the chips to make F-35s. And let's not forget the scum like Soros and gay rights as America's main exports.

Yes and Putin is an American puppet on a string.

If I had to bet on who is the puller and who is the pullee, Putin vs Biden,...hahahahahaha...
For now, let's compromise and assume that they are in cahoots and decided to stage a little show in Ukraine to jumpstart their comatose weapons manufacturing.

Hey, pawian, I hope you don't mind...

amiga500
16 Feb 2022  #963

Its not all USA hype.

That it is not. We need to nip Putin in the bud. Tis gone far enough. Whatever it takes. If it needs to go nuclear well thats duck and cover youtube.com/watch?v=zMnKNHNfznE

Novichok
16 Feb 2022  #964

We need to nip Putin in the bud.

Would you like his address? When you are done nipping, I want one of those black convertibles they use at May 9 parades.
The other one can be used at his funeral.

Crnogorac3
16 Feb 2022  #965

zerohedge.com/geopolitical/nord-stream-geopolitics-keeping-germany-down-russia-out-instability-ukraine

Solid analysis.

Crow
16 Feb 2022  #966

Putin organized the 2014 revolution in Ukraine to be able to deflect from the massive starvation in Russia in 2022?

Of course. AI. Putin is Artificial Intelligence.

Miloslaw
16 Feb 2022  #967

Anyone who denies that Putin is an intelligent man is a fool.
He has said from the start of this "Ukraine Crisis" that he has no intention to invade.
He may prove me wrong and show me up as being naive.
But I believe him.Despite all his other lies.
Because invading Ukraine would be a disaster for Russia.
And Putin knows that.
Russians see Ukrainians as blood brothers,so an invasion of Ukraine will not go down well in Russia.Even worse when the inevitable body bags start coming home....

And Ukrainians are not keen on joining NATO, because they see the pitfalls.
Putin has not put any pressure or demands on Kiev.
All his demands have been aimed at NATO.
Until now, they have been ignored.
But when he amassed 130,000 Russian troops on the border of Ukraine, suddenly NATO and the West were listening.....job done!
He just wants the West to listen to his concerns.Because they were not listening before.
Finally, he also knows that in about 1989 a caveat was added to the North Atlantic Treaty that stipulated that any country which has a border conflict cannot join NATO.

That counts Ukraine out.....
Putin knows he is safe for now.
He is not thinking about now but the long term future.
I still hate the Russian state, but at least I understand them.

pawian
16 Feb 2022  #968

The Kremlin claims it is withdrawing troops but intelligence sources suggest sth opposite.

Miloslaw
16 Feb 2022  #969

@pawian

Draw your own conclusions.....
But I don't think the Russians are pulling back just yet....they want to tease a bit more.....to see what they can find out.

And they have found out plenty so far.
Putin is playing blinder and making us all look like idiots.

pawian
16 Feb 2022  #970

Draw your own conclusions.....

Ok, I will try....

Here you are:

Two Heroes Who Contained Evil Empire. Ronald Reagan is looking at them from Heaven with immense satisfaction. God bless them all. Hough

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Velund
16 Feb 2022  #971

but intelligence sources suggest sth opposite

That "intelligence sources" discredited itself so many times in a last years, so most people will treat them like (in)famous "british scientists" now. ;)

But real harm to Ukraine was made not by Russia this time, it was de-facto done by western MSM. Problems with aircraft insurance, fleeing investors, etc, etc...

Velund
16 Feb 2022  #972

theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/feb/14/the-west-invasion-ukraine-putin-russia

Bratwurst Boy
17 Feb 2022  #973

US paratroopers arrive at Poland-Ukraine border

The tensions between Russia and the West have evidently not been overcome.




...Dozens of US paratroopers have arrived at the Polish-Ukrainian border as part of the NATO troop surge in Eastern Europe. As journalists from the AFP news agency reported, the soldiers landed on Wednesday in a Boeing C-17 military aircraft at the Polish airport in Rzeszow, around 100 kilometers from the Ukrainian border. Two Chinook helicopters could also be seen landing. Another dozen soldiers boarded two Black Hawk helicopters at the airport....

berliner-zeitung.de/welt-nationen/us-fallschirmjaeger-an-grenze-von-polen-und-ukraine-eingetroffen-li.212274

Novichok
17 Feb 2022  #974

US paratroopers arrive at Poland-Ukraine border

To check if the Ukrainian refugees are fully vaccinated and if they are wearing masks. I don't see any other reason for them to be there. Do you?

Bratwurst Boy
17 Feb 2022  #975

I wonder why they don't take those already in Germany?

Velund
17 Feb 2022  #976

Since 05:30 (MSK) ukrainian army shelling LNR. Looks like ukrainian nazis does not happy with silence that was last days there.

Sad... May have grave consequences.

PS: Southern part of LNR also under shelling now (120 mm caliber). Ukrainian forces is concentrating in area of Mariupol (including reactive artillery).

pawian
17 Feb 2022  #977

Since 05:30 (MSK) ukrainian army shelling LNR

You fekking lair. It is Russians who are shelling the area. They need a pretext for invasion.

May have grave consequences.

Yes. Corpses of Russian invaders will be sent back to Russia by thousands. God bless Ukraine. Russia - go to Hell.

PolAmKrakow
17 Feb 2022  #978

@Velund
And now we have the Russian troll trying to spread more Russian lies. Are you so Fing stupid to think anyone is going to believe you when all credible reports say nothing about Ukraine doing anything. Putin did not move any troops out, and is now staging and creating a reason to invade. Predictable juvenile tactical planning.

pawian
17 Feb 2022  #979

And now we have the Russian troll trying to spread more Russian lies

Yes, it is amazing how brazenly those trolls are pushing their agenda. The case is simple - he does what he is paid for.

GefreiterKania
17 Feb 2022  #980

Since 05:30 (MSK) ukrainian army shelling LNR.

What? Bandit Wojsko Polskie attacked German radio station in Gleiwitz? This is outrageous! Peaceful Wehrmacht must intervene to defend peace!!!

GefreiterKania
17 Feb 2022  #981

nazis does not happy

Yes, indeed. Nazis does not happy.

Nazis does not happy in their country (the largest in the world), they have to invade countries all around them. Nazis does not happy.

Nazis is not understanding. Nazis is not understanding why all those countries that were "allied" to them before want absolutely nothing to do with them EVER AGAIN, and are trying to make sure they will never have anything to do with them (e.g. by trying to join the EU and NATO).

Nazis does not happy. Nazis is not understanding.

But apparently the West has grown some balls recently, and they will make nazis understand (not happy though). :)

Novichok
17 Feb 2022  #982

Does anyone here know the difference between "a pro-Western leader" and "a Putin stooge"? I mean his character traits, not preferences.

But apparently the West has grown some balls recently,

We all have seen them recently - abandoned in Afghanistan. The Taliban had them up for public view until they started smelling bad.

The case is simple - he does what he is paid for.

But not as much as you by the Polish feminazis.

Bratwurst Boy
17 Feb 2022  #983

Attack in eastern Ukraine: Putin's henchmen fire at Ukrainian kindergarten

....Then on Thursday morning came the shock: the Ukrainian "Kindergarten No. 21 Fairy Tales" in Stanytsia Luhanska, only about 20 km north-east of the big city of Luhansk, was attacked by Putin's henchmen.

A video shows security forces from the Ukrainian "Joint Forces Operation" (short: JFO, in German: "Operation United Forces") in the destroyed kindergarten.


Video:
twitter.com/IAPonomarenko/status/1494242009682530306

PolAmKrakow
17 Feb 2022  #984

Lets not forget Trump scheduled the Afghanistan withdraw. Any other Afghan wisdom?

More Kremlin propaganda of finding a mass grave of Russian speakers now. How could they tell they were Russian speaking if they were dead? Must be they immediately traced family members down, or they just looked dumber than regular Ukraine's in the area. Along with the faked attacks, Putin searching for any reason now. Thats not US propping things up with the press any more thats Russia being Russia.

Novichok
17 Feb 2022  #985

Any other Afghan wisdom?

Coming up...One Afghan wisdom for one Western pair of balls.

was attacked by Putin's henchmen.

How does one become Putin's henchman? Is it like enlisting?

Is there any evidence that they did it on purpose?

Is there any evidence they did it on Putin's orders?

PolAmKrakow
17 Feb 2022  #986

@Novichok
There is evidence now of Russian troops not withdrawing, but advancing. Evidence now of more blood supplies being sent to those encampments. Evidence now of field hospitals in Belarus waiting for casualties to come in. But you know, who care about images collected from private business.

Ukraine sitting on a lot of technology now and more coming in every day. Going to be a lot of dead Russians if this happens. Pass the caviar please.

amiga500
17 Feb 2022  #987

Two Heroes Who Contained Evil Empire. Ronald Reagan is looking at them from Heaven with immense satisfaction. God bless them all. Hough

He's a Legend. :) youtube.com/watch?v=-wPKt5W8I5Y

Novichok
17 Feb 2022  #988

was attacked by Putin's henchmen.

How does one become Putin's henchman? Is it like enlisting?

amiga500
17 Feb 2022  #989

God bless Ukraine. Russia - go to Hell.

True dat. we will fight to the death.

Novichok
17 Feb 2022  #990

He's a Legend.

No. Reagan was a comedian telling Soviet jokes and a naive sucker who trusted the Democrats when they promised the wall for the amnesty for the illegal Latino scum. This idiot bought their bs and the initial 3 million of them grew to 30. Thanks for nothing, Ronny.

No, he didn't contain Evil Empire. It takes more to contain an empire than making speeches - funny or not. The USSR fell apart on its own. All we had to do is wait. The rest was a domino effect.


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