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Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades



pawian
18 Feb 2022  #1021

If the Russians do invade

The bandit Russia led by the KGB regime must be cut off from the civilized world, cut off from the global internet, kicked out of all political, economic, cultural and sports organizations - until decent Russians who don`t want to live on their knees get rid of their KGB leadership and start living in peace at last. But before that happens, they need to be starved with sanctions.

Miloslaw
18 Feb 2022  #1022

@pawian

I agree with every word you just posted.
Well said!

Joker
18 Feb 2022  #1023

I can still not see it happening.

I just see Xiden on TV, not looking very well, never does, but this time he looks extra tired and has been outplayed, again!

He just said Putin will attack within days.

Velund
19 Feb 2022  #1024

but this time he looks extra tired

Not so easy to convince Putin to take project Ukraine, that starting to become super expensive, off their hands, and pay all expenses.

Putin started LNR/DNR non-combatants (kids, womans, elderly people first) evacuation instead, to various motels and sanatoriums on russian territory.

PolAmKrakow
19 Feb 2022  #1025

@Velund
Lots of Russians going to die in this campaign. You don't start moving people out of the way unless you are certain something will happen. With any luck the region will be so blasted out the Russians will actually have to stay in Russia after this. You have to wonder what these young Russian soldiers are thinking as they know that many of them will be heading to their deaths. What for? Is Ukraine worth it?

Alien
19 Feb 2022  #1026

@PolAmKrakow
Don't forget that Ukrainians are some sort of Russians. They all speak Russian and there is no difference between them. So there will be only Russians who will die in this war. There will be some sort of Civil War.

pawian
19 Feb 2022  #1027

Putin started LNR/DNR non-combatants (kids, womans, elderly people first) evacuation instead,

What for?

They all speak Russian and there is no difference between them.

No.

Alien
19 Feb 2022  #1028

@pawian
Yes

pawian
19 Feb 2022  #1029

Yes

Tell it to an average Ukrainian to hear an aswer: No. :):) Stop depending on Kremlin propaganda.

Fun facts
The Kremlin is dreaming of recreating the Empire
meanwhile......
.......over 3000 schools in Russia don`t have indoor plumbing and sewage system and students have to use outhouses. Altogether, 20% Russians are in such a situation.

PolAmKrakow
19 Feb 2022  #1030

@Alien
I spend a lot of time in Ukraine for work reasons. A lot being several times per year so I think its more than most here. Most Ukraine people speak Ukrainian while similar to Russian, its not Russian. Ukraine people do not consider themselves Russian at all, most hate Russia that I have met. My opinion of Russians, having to deal with them for work reasons is not very high in most cases, my opinion of Belarus men I have dealt with is below that of Russians, and it wont bother me a bit to see fewer of them walking the planet.

While Putin has the numbers, if this turns into a full blown war and not just a coup with insider help, I have to believe Putin will come to regret this move. The sanctions will be crippling and the bodies going home will not paint a pretty picture.

Velund
19 Feb 2022  #1031

Tell it to an average Ukrainian to hear an aswer: No. :):)

There is no such thing as "average ukrainian", and there is no such thing as "ukrainian nation". There is at least 4 major groups that have very different interests and preferences. And one that is closest to what you are trying to promote have rich experience in etnic cleanising of polish and russian populations.

What for?

Read the news (not from the pan of sewage you regularily use, though).

pawian
19 Feb 2022  #1032

Read the news

No, darling, I want to read it from you. :):)

no such thing as "ukrainian nation".

Kremlin propaganda.....

GefreiterKania
19 Feb 2022  #1033

Kremlin is dreaming of recreating the Empire

Exactly.

As I said before: over 17 million square kilometres, enough work to be done there for 1000 years instead of meddling in other countries affairs. GDP per capita more or less on the level of Antigua and Barbuda... worldometers.info/gdp/gdp-per-capita/ ... most of which comes from selling gas and oil, and they still see themselves as an "Empire". Ridiculous.

Why can't they just live and work like normal people??? Hey, Russians: you have lower population than Bangladesh and lower GDP per capita than Panama; you are not an empire - live with it! *rolls eyes*

PolAmKrakow
19 Feb 2022  #1034

@GefreiterKania
Well said. Outside of the major cities, Russia is a s**thole country. My experience in working with Russians is that they are generally lazy and try to not work, you can not leave them unsupervised or they will not work or steal from you. Ukraine people are the opposite, hard working and generally honest. Belarus people I would never hire one again.

Russia like the US needs to take the narrative off the problems in the country. Biden wants this war to look good while boosting up NATO and selling tanks to Poland to take away from the divided country news in the US. Putin needs this war to take away from news that Russia is a dump and people are tired of living like third world migrants in their own homes. But Putin didn't expect Germany to cave to the US and NATO so easily because of NS2. Now, Putin has to cover for that news too. He has gone too far and spent too much on this buildup to not follow through now. NATO is not going to give in, so if Russia doesn't fight they look like the biggest bit**es in the world.

Velund
19 Feb 2022  #1035

No, darling, I want to read it from you. :):)

Keep wanting...

Crnogorac3
19 Feb 2022  #1036

America is a classic bully who replaces democratically elected leaders with orange revolutions and after them ravages everything that can be pillaged in those countries. Not only with the orange revolutions, they can often overthrow sovereign states by brutal military force, entire regions that will never recover from their invasions and destruction. Everything that is happening in Ukraine today is the work of Americans, ie. the work of the Obama regime, it is his legacy and Biden has only continued the conflict in his presidency. It is clear that the Americans want a conflict, a proxy war with the Russians and the American arms manufacturers are rubbing their hands with happiness.

youtu.be/t0DLNDAgAwU

PolAmKrakow
19 Feb 2022  #1037

@Crnogorac3
Go back to your hole in Siberia. Happy gulag.

amiga500
19 Feb 2022  #1038

They all speak Russian and there is no difference between them.

Pierdolone BS Russian Propaganda, as posted by a russian troll. Get real mate. Even those that speak russian in the east the majority do not support Putin and his mafia mates. They want to be Ukrainian and join the EU and become affluent like Poland.

Velund
19 Feb 2022  #1039

and join the EU and become affluent like Poland.

EU have no more money to create "economic miracles" like Poland was for a few years. Poles will have to keep their own economic level with only internal resources now, without EU "sponsorship". And those who trying to "fight for Poland up to last Pole" from another continent better have to shut up.

PolAmKrakow
19 Feb 2022  #1040

@Velund
You are clearly one of the Russian ret**ds. Men 18 to 55 can not leave the Donetsk and Crimea regions and will be the first to the slaughter. Their "leaders" will line them up for the kill. This is the Russian mentality. While I know it wont happen simply because they are outnumbered, I really would hope for mass casualties from the Russian side, and particularly that these "leaders" in the breakaway zones are killed. It takes a strong stomach for war, and I do not believe Russian mommies have it in them to watch their boys get killed for nothing.

Putin underestimates how much the world in general dislikes Russia. He thinks that some how people and other countries will eventually accept them, and it wont happen. Like South Americans in the US, Russians in the EU will only be cheap labor.

Once again, have a nice day, go pick some coal from the tracks for heating, and happy gulag.

amiga500
19 Feb 2022  #1041

EU have no more money to create "economic miracles"

Hahaha rightio mate, ure living in a putin created delusion. EU is an economic miracle, and despite Merkel fu**ing up, and letting in millions of unidentified people in her country, the EU will remain economically strong and be kicking ass for many years to come. What is the GDP of russia again? oh yeah jack sh*t. At least we don't have those p*ss sh*t stained, stalinist housing blocks, with gangstas waiting outside to rob you, stab you and etc etc, anymore, like they do outside moscow cbd and all around. Well we do but it's like 2 percent compared to your glorious ruski country.

Velund
19 Feb 2022  #1042

how much the world in general dislikes Russia.

This is not problem of Russia. Those who have no sympathy to Russians while having less brain cells than Finns with their pragmatic neutrality, will have to live long life (in fear). ;) And real world is much wider place than your small russophobic corner. ;)

amiga500
19 Feb 2022  #1043

Those who have no sympathy to Russians while having less brain cells than Finns

Oh we have sympathy, but that has nothing to do with wanting to kill Ruskis ;) (*military and fifth column targets only of course*)

GefreiterKania
19 Feb 2022  #1044

The main question to ask is: why did Putin decide to carry out this "Ukrainian operation" right now? The USA pretty much withdrew from Europe, leaving it to Germany/Russia to divide between them and the German led EU has, until now, been more than friendly towards Russia. All Putin had to do was to wait for a couple of more months, complete the North Stream 2 and tighten his economic grip on the EU; things would look rather bright for Moscow in such scenario.

But... instead of that... he started this whole silly invasion circus, forcing the US to strengthen NATO's eastern flank, unifying the EU against him, and threatening the very economic foundations of his country. Either the man has gone completely mad or there is something else going on behind the scenes that we don't know of.

Velund
19 Feb 2022  #1045

he started this whole silly invasion circus

I would say that Biden and their lackeys started virtual reality scenario in which Russia attack Ukraine, to avoid peaceful progress that will lead to too much questions from their own electorate. One fault, new date appointed, fault again... Now stronger stimulus like 120 mm mortars to LNR/DNR territory is in use - still no attack, just evacuation of non-combatant and mobilisation of males to get weapons and fight for their homes. Let's look what will be next.

mafketis
19 Feb 2022  #1046

why did Putin decide to carry out this "Ukrainian operation" right now?

Here's a pro-Putin pro-invasion take (by someone with no intention of seeing action himself....)

akarlin.substack.com/p/regathering-of-the-russian-lands?utm_source=url

GefreiterKania
19 Feb 2022  #1047

Biden and their lackeys started virtual reality scenario in which Russia attack Ukraine

Did Biden and his lackeys gathered 150,000 Russian troops on the attack positions all around Ukraine?

Let's look what will be next.

Yes, let's wait and see. Something is not right here :-/

Regathering of the Russian Lands

Thank you for the link. I will gladly read the article, but if it's about - as the title suggests - Russian imperial conquest, then the question still remains: why now? Russians could hardly have chosen a worse moment to start the reunification of Russkij Mir.

mafketis
19 Feb 2022  #1048

the question still remains: why now?

According to the author, it's now or never though I don't follow all the reasoning...

Velund
19 Feb 2022  #1049

why now?

Because US economy on the edge of sliding to hyperinflation, and Biden urgently need something that will explain why he was unable to prevent 40+% drop in living standards of 99% and mass bankruptcies of small businesses.

GefreiterKania
19 Feb 2022  #1050

According to the author, it's now or never

Yes, I've just finished reading the article and I call baloney on that. Russia would be in much better position to attack in the summer, when NS2 is completed and fully functional - giving them additional funds and stronger political leverage on the EU (not to mention easier weather/terrain conditions for attacking units).

Because US economy on the edge of sliding to hyperinflation

This is not going to happen as long as dollar is an international reserve currency.

No. All the explanations here are too simplistic. I'm telling you - something stinking is happening behind the scenes.


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