Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades

@AntV
As for Taiwan, the Us has given them a ton of fire power. That's all they can do really. I agree though, it will be China, then NATO along with Japan and others, then what's left of Russia, South America and Africa. China will be the leader though and it is only a matter of time before it happens. In 30 years Russia will be a much smaller nation and will not resemble anything close to a super power.

@Novichok
Using anyone as a punching bag is not challenging, and only keeps them engaged longer than anyone really cares for. Russia is wasting time and money on trolls with this particular subject. The west in nearly every circumstance is never going to be convinced that this aggression is anything more than imperialist and Putin egoism. Lets just hope the guy gets killed and someone new takes over who actually wants to do something for the Russian people. That would be a first in their history.

With Russian forces now confirmed in Ukraine, its about to get real and people will start dying in the next day or two in large numbers. Ukraine has passed a law allowing every citizen to carry guns for protection and use them justifiably. When citizens arm themselves and are prepared to fight, a lot of people are going to get killed on both sides. No such thing as a bullet proof face shield. Wishing Ukraine people good aim.

It seems that Putin is angling to humiliate the US and UK, and by extension, break up the long-outdated and increasingly fragile NATO Alliance.

Both he and Russia have already been vindicated, as the US and UK have violated both their respective words and treaties with him and his country.

This incidentally strengthens China's position, because it helps prove to Russia that accepting the One Belt One Road Initiative it's offering is far more in Russia's interest than dealing with the perfidious Americans and British.

Whom, like all Jewish-controlled governmental bodies and organizations, simply aren't trustworthy enough to abide by their words or agreements.

Also, so-called "Democratic" Ukraine has all but been told outright that they will receive no effective help, a.k.a. large numbers of so-called "Boots On The Ground", from the West to aid them in fighting Russia.

If anything, the Zio-Globalist West is furtively urging-on the Ukrainians to goad Russia into a devastating and exceedingly bloody invasion that everyone believes the Ukrainians would lose in the end.

Oddly enough, the UK and US are actually doing all of this over a pipeline.

If NS2 ever goes live, both the US, UK, and by extension NATO itself would indeed lose a great deal of economic, and thus hegemonic, power in Europe.

Any actual Russo-German trading partnership wouldn't be settled in either British Pound Sterling or in US Dollars.

And that single fact alone is absolutely impossible for those International Zionist Banker-owned two states to ever accept.

The question now is what if the US under the total control of Cadaver Joe's Regime Handlers and hell-bent Marxist D-Rats, (along with their Zio-Con Establishment Recucklican allies), are for some reason denied an immediate Russo-Ukranian war to vindicate the fu$king Tribe's Blood Libel with Russia?

What new Horrors would they then release on all other majority-White countries to console themselves with in the interim?

One way or another, it seems we'll all find out soon enough in the coming weeks...

@Novichok

I don't understand your point.

@Bratwurst Boy

Putin still holds power and a majority approval, though. It seems to me that deep in the insecure Russian character is a need to be considered relevant by others, if Putin was able to attain what he desires: regaining lost Russian global significance, maybe those younger, educated folks might have a change of heart.

@GefreiterKania

From a non-Russian perspective, I agree. But, from a Russian, or at least a Putin, perspective, NATO is a perceived threat. Former-Soviet bloc countries applying to join is prospectively bringing NATO closer to Russian borders. Putin perceives this as a threat to Russia. He's rambled on and on about it since '99. Whether we disagree with Putin that NATO is a threat to Russia is immaterial to Putin's perception. But, IMO, it's important to understand the opponent's point-of-view, if we wish to manage or defeat said opponent.

I'm not as confident as you are that a nuclear armed country would never be attacked, especially by another nuclear armed foe. Two nuclear armed countries going to war with one another may just preclude either from using nuclear arms in a conflict.

I saw a list of sanctions the West is threatening Russia with--minor league stuff, IMO.

I'll tell ya what would get Putin's attention: 1) open up US oil and gas fracking and call on other oil-producing countries to increase output, 2) start dissembling NS2 pipeline and call it dead, and 3) arm the hell out of Ukraine (risky, but...).

The Evil and Malevolence of the Pentagon's Brilliant Strategy in Ukraine

"The strategy has involved maneuvering Russia into having to make a choice between two scenarios, both of which have bad consequences. The choices are these: (1) Russia does not invade Ukraine, in which case the U.S.-controlled NATO absorbs Ukraine, which means U.S. bases, missiles, tanks, and troops permanently situated on Russia's borders; or (2) Russia invades Ukraine and takes over the reins of government, in which case U.S. officials portray Russia as a horrific aggressor that now threatens the rest of Europe, the United States, and all mankind."

fff.org/2022/02/18/the-evil-and-malevolence-of-the-pentagons-brilliant-strategy-in-ukraine/

Putin is not an idiot, his perception is as accurate as anyone's in the West. He knows perfectly well that NATO is not a threat to Russia. He is using this imaginary threat as an excuse to rebuild Russia's imperial past and some people are falling for it. What's worse he is using it also to justify invading free democratic countries (first Georgia now Ukraine; Poland and the Baltics are next on the list).


I agree. They have to be real sanctions - those imposed so far are a joke and will only encourage Putin.

I am willing to bet there is more than one act of sabotage on NS2 before to long. USA just sanctioned the company building the NS2 independently of other Russian sanctions.

While Putin is getting away with invading Ukraine, he wont get away with anything if he tries to invade a NATO country. Automatically NATO kicks in provision 5 and he is fighting everyone. Russia would be destroyed and he has as much said this. Now, if Poland leaves the EU and NATO one way or another, then for sure he would come for Poland. If there is a weak link it is Hungary. Testing there would be a smarter move if its a NATO country next. With all the US military in Poland and how quickly more could be mobilized, Poland would be a big mistake.

I still say a Baltic country (with the pretext of 'protecting Russians' or 'establishing a corridor to Kaliningrad').

Hungary is a weak link but I don't think Orban is stupid enough to exit NATO....

@mafketis
While you might be right, the anti Russian sentiment in Latvia and Estonia are very high. I don't think he would have any internal support he would likely need. Lithuania? Bordering Poland, and then going directly for Poland from Ukraine and Lithuania could make sense, but that is going to take many years to make happen. This Ukraine war when the bullets start flying is going to last for years. Even if largely successful there will be pockets of Ukraine people who will continue the fight in a terroristic way. This war is not going to have any conventional events that Europe is used to in the previous wars. This is going to be long and drawn out. If they can draw it out for 8 years in these two regions imagine how long the rest of the country can go.

Especially if financed from outside sponsors which have their own interests. This is what Vatican and Germany did to my people. Its win win situation for them. Let target bleed from internal fighting.

But, justice may befall them. Maybe one of these days.

I always wonder about this beloved combination of yours.....I would see for example Poland as much more staunchly catholic than Germany....since the Reformation at least half of Germany is not that interested in everything Vatican, really not!

my combination? They work together here in order to show us light of ``true`` faith.


That is why Poland is down. Vatican considers Poland as finished and focus on work with Germany.

In my understanding neither Russia or Germany need NS2 urgently. This is rather a backup pipeline.

Serbia`s President on Ukraine crisis .>

Vučić: "Let them condemn the aggression against Serbia" VIDEO

Step by step....that is just the beginning....


spiegel.de/politik/deutschland/sputnik-v-bayern-stoppt-produktion-des-russischen-coronaimpfstoffes-a-7c645d02-702f-44a3-806a-bc1e33a80404

Bavarian Prime Minister Markus Söder has pulled the ripcord: Due to Russia's current aggression against Ukraine, there will be no Russian vaccine made in Germany.....

Last year, the Bavarian Ministry of Health signed a letter of intent with the Russian state investment fund RDIF, which is marketing the vaccine. The state planned to buy 2.5 million doses of Sputnik V once the vaccine is approved by the European Medicines Agency, Ema. The Russian pharmaceutical company R-Pharm set up a production facility in Bavaria in order to create regional production capacities in Germany, in which up to eight to ten million vaccine doses were to be produced every month.....

@Vlad1234
Again the ignorance of your statements. NS1 is now being shut down. NS2 would have boosted Germany reliance on Russian gas to 70%. Now Russia gets nothing, and Germany buys from other sources. Russia is being lead by an idiot in a nation full of idiots.

I actually believe that USA and Russia agreed to split the market. Its one aspect of this crisis.

In next phase they split EU (ie dissolve) and by that deeper regulate orientations of markets in Europe.

@Crow
I will have what ever you are drinking. Clearly an alternate reality cocktail.

Did you really thought Russia is destined to be sole seller of gas to the western Europe? You think Russia wants that?

(Not Germany) USA ZOG suspends Nord Stream 2

Germans have to destroy their economy and freeze because American jews said so.

Jewish revenge is cruel and border with sadism. Nothing would faster turn Germany onto third world country. But, Anglos won`t complaint. profit to the States is guaranteed.

Oh how Britain was wise to abandon EU in time.

Jewish revenge for what?

Or maybe Germany did it to itself. Suicide or madness.

What else is there to say except, may the two new republics of Donetsk and Luhansk prosper & live happily ever after and may there be no war.

:)



With blood soaked, with lives defended

Update*

Syria, Venezuela, Cuba, and Nicaragua likely to recognize the Donetsk and Lugansk republics shortly.

geopolitica.ru/en/article/russia-has-just-recognized-peoples-republics-donetsk-and-lugansk-sovereign-and-independent



:)

I am curious of NATO and EU reactions if Poland recognize new states.

How long is Russia going to want to feed them?

If it can`t feed its own soldiers who have to sell their fuel and buy food in local shops.
Here is their accommodation: Grand Hotel ala Rus. :):)

No wonder Ukrainians rejects that Asian barbarism.

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As long as needed.

Essentially Lugansk and Donetsk are regions around core region Slavo-Serbia, historical autonomous region within Russian Empire in 18th century. Certainly, Lugansk and Donetsk would tend to unite.

The way things are heading, pawian may be voting for Putin in the next elections.

;)

Might be a problem coz he hasn`t left the Kremlin for months. It must be insider job - a person close to him who decides on a suicidal assassination. A bribed bodyguard? Or a devastated henchman whose relative gets killed in Ukraine?

Or another alternative - a group of high military, like in case of Beria in 1950s - they arrested him and shot on the spot.

The last option is a mass civil unrest in Moscow, with millions of residents storming the Kremlin, possibly aided by rebelled army units. I hope they will have anti-helicopter missiles in case Putin tries to flee from the Kremlin roof. :):)


Only over his dead body. hahaha