Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades

More than 400 Russian mercenaries (a private militia called "the Wagner Group") are operating in Kyiv with orders from the Kremlin to assassinate President Zelensky and his government and prepare the ground for Moscow to take control:

thetimes.co.uk/article/volodymyr-zelensky-russian-mercenaries-ordered-to-kill-ukraine-president-cvcksh79d


I think you're going too far with this, so speak for yourself.

This artwork titled "Seeds for Tomorrow" was done by an extremely popular digital artist, yuumei (a Chinese woman living in the US) - her comment on this piece:

twitter.com/Yuumei_Art

'Inspired by the brave Ukrainian woman who told the invading Russian soldier "Put sunflower seeds in your pocket so that sunflowers will grow when you die here."'

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Did you looked at supermarket shelves last years?


Minimalistic estimate - Russia + China + India (+ Iran if you wish) = 0.144bn +1,402bn + 1,38bn (+0.084 bn) = 3.01bn population (7,753bn is all Earth population). Really - Russia will have access for more markets and resources.

Especially if "iron curtain" will be in place and patent rights and other "holy cows" became puffs of air.


Hard form of cold war for some time. Then normalisation of relations with Germany/France/Italy/Spain. Don't give a fcuk about Poland/baltics if still will exist as a formally independent countries.

as far as I know the US is self-sufficient in regards of oil and gas in current prices - the US can even export their natural gas surplus to Europe - so yeah if you ask me there is a limit to possible inflation

@Paulina
Too far? I don't think you have been alive long enough to truly understand the history of Russia. While you may understand Poland's history of Russian and Soviet oppression, you can not understand what the North American perspective is.

Talk to a military person, or politician outside of Russia and I assure you that to a man or woman nearly every one of them hopes Russia as it exists, and as it has existed since 1917 would simply disappear. New leadership from young people who are not enchanted or hypnotized by the former USSR is needed, and frankly Putin needs to be executed publicly to drive the point home.

After Russia there is China, but China understands it can not stand alone, and they understand that while an autocratic nation, they need to "appear" as though they treat their citizens better. This is exactly why China neither supports or condemns Russia, they are playing the fence.

Great piece of art though, and great sentiment from the Ukraine woman who inspired it.

@Velund
I go to the US every 6 to 8 weeks for a few days to a week. Supermarket shelves are fine, no issues with any supplies. Plenty of meat and vegetables everywhere. Plenty of outdoor markets as well. Supply chain disruption due to COVID has impacted some hard goods of course, but not the items people really need. None of those issues came from anything Russia has done or will do. As I have asked countless times, what does Russia have that the world can not live without? There is nothing.

That's the thing! What normalisation? How?

Putin lied Scholz directly into his face!!! He PROMISED him personally that there would be no war!!! Only a few days before...as he already planned everything....

How do you think is a normalization between them possible? You need a minimum of trust for that!

I imagine the Ukrainians still not giving up...a kind of guerrilla/resistance even after russian victory....remember Afghanistan? Or what Vietnam became for the US?

Do you think that the West just shrugs to that and re-opens all relationships again with Russia? Ends the sanctions? Treats Putin again like an equal? As one of us? Totally ignoring the Ukrainians? No longer supporting them with money and weapons and humanitarian aid? No longer shunning and isolating Russia? Really?

Well that's a lovely sentiment. I actually don't wish Russia or Russians harm or ill will. I would just like them to stop invading their peaceful neighbors.

Why not try to create an attractive standard of living for people instead of following a vain dictator's dreams of imperial glory (that require the mass sacrifice of young Russian men and miserable living standards for the populace)?

Russia could be an intellectual and cultural and economic superpower but all the Russian state seems interested in doing is trying to dominate its neighboring countries (and protecting the ill gotten gains of oligarchs).

What a waste of potential....

@mafketis
That was perfect maf. A waste of potential. 1917 to today.

Situation changed in mere hours. 150000+ of ukraine troops will be prepared for overwhelming attack to LNR/DNR to "close this question at once" and even trucks with shells will be on artillery positions.

But... No luck for US masters this time. And Zelensky "nuclear fantasies" was a last straw... It's why russian troops take nuclear stations and nuclear waste storage objects under control ASAP.

Situation is irreversible, there is no way to make nice plutonium sphere from a large mushroom-like cloud.

With allies like these:

Putin-bro and number one fan is on the case!

twitter.com/rianru/status/1498095033559437321

"Kadyrov, after the statements of Johnson, Truss, Borrell and von der Leyen about new sanctions, demanded that they withdraw their statements "before February 31", threatening retaliatory measures"

this was probably Putin's plan: survive some minor sanctions untill Europe becomes 'reasonable' again and it's all business as usual - I hope Russians realize soon that the mood has changed

Probably many... I've read that over half of Russians support the invasion...


Yes and this is what I'd like to see and not for Russian people to "wither away and die as a nation (which is rather impossible to happen to such a big nation anyway).

And another artwork - this time from Lithuania by Beata Kurkul:

instagram.com/beata_kurkul/

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Now try to keep your current standard of living without chances to plunder half of the world to stop next crisis. We will take care of this.

I guess that too....he surely counted on Germany still wanting to play the "bridge"....preventing the worst....and be the first to move on again afterwards as if nothing had happened...like after Georgia and Crimea...

Well...that was a miscalculation!

The Russian ethnicity is not in good shape. Fertility is way too low markers of social dysfunction are way too high and Putin doesn't even seem to like them young smart kids being arrested for nonsense* are all ethnic Russians... (he seems to prefer Caucasians and Central Asians and is busy conducitng his own 'great replacement').

*dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10501625/Russian-boy-16-jailed-five-years-planning-blow-virtual-building-Minecraft.html I'm told there are a lot more of these cases reported in Russian language media and it's always ethnic Russians being targeted

That will make the mood on Germany only worse....for Putin!

The muslims also got always more unpopular after every terror attack in the name of Islam....that never works! Every "retaliory measure" will only close the ranks...Idiot!

They still have time... it's not February 31 yet!

hehehe :)

Maf, this is exactly what the world thinks of Russian leadership. February 31st. What a Fing moron.

@Velund
As for the standard of living in the US and other EU countries. The average McDonalds worker has a better standard of living than most Russian's. The average Pole much better. Your idea's of threats to a developed nation are laughed at. Like your country is laughed at. This is exactly why Russians are paranoid and suffer from inferiority complex. Again, what does Russia have that the rest of us cant live without? Answer the question for all of us, but answer it for yourself first. When you finally understand that you have nothing, then you will realize the point from which your nation bargains from.

Ukraine reminds me of the 1980 USA hockey team. Small, undermanned and united. Russians still feel that loss, and it is exactly that feeling that all the world, not just USA has toward Russia. When the USA beat Russia, the world celebrated, and when Ukraine does the same the world will celebrate again.

In other news:








focus.de/sport/fussball/nach-angriff-russischer-truppen-ukrainischer-fussball-verband-setzt-meisterschaft-aus_id_58605632.html

....and that's just the beginning...it's getting lonely around Putin....and frankly I don't see that getting better after a russian victory in Ukraine, only worse....no normalization imaginable!

Don`t be silly. Your economy will be ruined and you will eat rat sandwiches until the day when ordinary Russians decide they have had enough of living in disgrace and debasement and they will storm the Kremlin and change the system.

You'll tell this sweet tale to your grandchildren when you treat them to a stew of mice.

Russia can play downshifting game much longer than so called "western democracies".

You got everything mixed up - I serve mice stew to my cats, not grandkids.


Yes, I can see the first signs of it - right now Russia is playing the game of endurance with its soldiers who are underfed and underequipped. Besides, they were told they were sent to Ukraine for regular training. Putin is only testing their endurance to extreme conditions. Such a game. Those few who survive Ukrainian resistance will be awarded the Lenin Medal for Brave Survival. hahaha

@Velund

Velund, Russia has always been so proud of it's people during the war and rightfully so...how they never gave up and resisted the german Nazi invader....never stopped fighting the at that time best military machine in the world...

Now Russia is the invader and the Ukrainians are the brave resister who won't give up their freedom and their homeland to a much stronger foreign military force...Russia has now become the bad guy, the invader, the occupier, the destroyer of a peaceful country, the murderer of women and children, forcing millions to flee...hated and despised by the world.

You can't be happy about that! Have you forgotten?

Of course he isn`t but he has to pretend the opposite - doing it for a living.

O wonder what would had happened if there had been already social media during the Third Reich....

FB and Twitter in 1939! Imagine all those pictures and videos of Westerplatte heroic defence sent around the world for six days! Then Wizna, Bzura battle, the heroic cavalry skirmishes. The entire world would love us! France and UK would have to invade Germany from the west and end the war in a month. :)

And all the atrocities documented and broadcast LIVE! The entire world would have ganged up against Hitler much earlier!

lol pawian...
Let us send Velund in a tank to Ukraine... I'm sure such a great patriot will be happy to die there needlessly instead of some boy from an "exotic" republic who was sent there as cannon fodder...

Or earlier.....imagine pictures of the first Konzentrationslager.....and what was done to the Jews and opposition (long before the war)....would Hitler had made it to '39?

Would Chamberlain still accept the end of Czechoslovakia, still trying to appease Hitler?

Chinese traders have just stopped buying Russian coal for fear of western sanctions...

biznes.interia.pl/gieldy/aktualnosci/news-chinscy-traderzy-wstrzymuja-zakupy-rosyjskiego-wegla,nId,5860636

... so much for Russian-Chinese cooperation. :)

Apropos the "big saviour" China:


aljazeera.com/economy/2022/2/28/as-russias-isolation-grows-china-hints-at-limits-of-friendship

...Even as Beijing has refused to term Russian President Vladimir Putin's assault on Ukraine an "invasion" and condemned Western-led sanctions, Chinese state-owned financial institutions have been quietly distancing themselves from Russia's beleaguered economy.

The moves suggest a careful balancing act by Beijing as it seeks to buttress ties with Moscow without openly violating sanctions, which could jeopardise its access to key Western export markets and the US dollar-centric international financial system.

Well.....slimey Chinese....what did anybody expect? Them being loyal to anybody???